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Should I sell my laptops to my brothers or hold off?

Should I sell my laptops to my brothers or hold off?

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searaydude
Member
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12-31-2016, 10:06 PM
#1
I have two laptops I planned to sell low to my brothers for a new one. They’re not big gamers, so an 1650 and 6800m would suit them well. But I’m uncertain now. Most modern laptops only offer 8GB of VRAM, while my 6800m has 12GB. From the limited research I did, the 6800m seems to outperform the AMD 7xxx Mobile, except for its DLSSFG advantage. Am I better keeping my Rog Strix G15 Advantage? Even with an 8GB 40-Series, it would be a huge expense. Could there be something obvious I’m missing about this laptop generation?
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searaydude
12-31-2016, 10:06 PM #1

I have two laptops I planned to sell low to my brothers for a new one. They’re not big gamers, so an 1650 and 6800m would suit them well. But I’m uncertain now. Most modern laptops only offer 8GB of VRAM, while my 6800m has 12GB. From the limited research I did, the 6800m seems to outperform the AMD 7xxx Mobile, except for its DLSSFG advantage. Am I better keeping my Rog Strix G15 Advantage? Even with an 8GB 40-Series, it would be a huge expense. Could there be something obvious I’m missing about this laptop generation?

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ryanvdx
Junior Member
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12-31-2016, 11:19 PM
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Not exactly. The 6800M mobile matches the performance of the desktop version, RX 6600. Here are some comparisons:
- https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AM...9925vs4128
RX 6700 XT offers a significant improvement over the RX 6600/6800M mobile, making it a suitable upgrade option.
- https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AM...9925vs4109

The RTX 40-series will likely be quite expensive, which is partly due to Nvidia's investment in GPU research.
Additionally, AMD appears to be falling behind in GPU development.
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ryanvdx
12-31-2016, 11:19 PM #2

Not exactly. The 6800M mobile matches the performance of the desktop version, RX 6600. Here are some comparisons:
- https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AM...9925vs4128
RX 6700 XT offers a significant improvement over the RX 6600/6800M mobile, making it a suitable upgrade option.
- https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AM...9925vs4109

The RTX 40-series will likely be quite expensive, which is partly due to Nvidia's investment in GPU research.
Additionally, AMD appears to be falling behind in GPU development.

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SuperTurtle998
Junior Member
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01-07-2017, 08:26 AM
#3
Starting with the core question, what truly motivates this purchase? Simply replacing an outdated model isn't a valid justification. Your current 6800M is actually one of the top-performing chips in the Ryzen 6000 series. Only the 6850 XT surpasses it. Therefore, when assessing your device against older 7000 series models, it stands out as a stronger option. For a more accurate evaluation, you should benchmark your high-end processor against the latest high-end alternatives.

Here’s a comparison list of mobile GPUs to help identify better options:
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Radeon-RX-...598.0.html

Keep in mind that VRAM size isn’t the only determinant of performance. Other aspects such as bus width, bandwidth, pipeline, CUDA cores, and overall architecture also play crucial roles.

For example, comparing your 6800M with an RTX 4080 shows that despite both having 12 GB of VRAM, the newer model outperforms yours:
https://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDI...-v...598.0.html

The rising cost of new hardware is partly due to inflation. Additionally, Nvidia’s pricing for the RTX 40-series remains significantly higher than any previous generation before it. It seems unlikely that prices or performance will improve going forward. I’m even hesitant about the MSRP for the RTX 50-series.
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SuperTurtle998
01-07-2017, 08:26 AM #3

Starting with the core question, what truly motivates this purchase? Simply replacing an outdated model isn't a valid justification. Your current 6800M is actually one of the top-performing chips in the Ryzen 6000 series. Only the 6850 XT surpasses it. Therefore, when assessing your device against older 7000 series models, it stands out as a stronger option. For a more accurate evaluation, you should benchmark your high-end processor against the latest high-end alternatives.

Here’s a comparison list of mobile GPUs to help identify better options:
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Radeon-RX-...598.0.html

Keep in mind that VRAM size isn’t the only determinant of performance. Other aspects such as bus width, bandwidth, pipeline, CUDA cores, and overall architecture also play crucial roles.

For example, comparing your 6800M with an RTX 4080 shows that despite both having 12 GB of VRAM, the newer model outperforms yours:
https://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDI...-v...598.0.html

The rising cost of new hardware is partly due to inflation. Additionally, Nvidia’s pricing for the RTX 40-series remains significantly higher than any previous generation before it. It seems unlikely that prices or performance will improve going forward. I’m even hesitant about the MSRP for the RTX 50-series.

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Lynnxy
Junior Member
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01-07-2017, 05:19 PM
#4
I'll answer in chunks.
Why - Mine is the 1080p/300hz model, so most games do run fine, just wish they were better. I know I won't get my desktops level of performance but at least better. So I figured with that and the other pristine condition laptop I had I could sell both cheap and come close to a new one.
Performance - From my research the 6800m is roughly a 6700XT, fairly respectable for what it is. When comparing AMD I found 3 models 7600s, 7700s and 7900m.
Spec for spec minus the Infinity cache the 7900m does on paper outperform mine but not enough to bother upgrading.
As for Nvidia, I'll be honest, I looked at 2 or 3 models and don't know what I thought I saw at 2am. As for the 4080 and 4090 they are 12GB and 16GB respectively, again, don't know where the hell I saw 8GB. The 4070 was 8GB so I didn't even look at the specs for that and had I looked at the 4080 and 4090 properly, I would have delved into their specs more but pricing starts going bye-bye with those two.
Price - What I meant in regards to price, I could build another way more powerful (but not portable obviously) 4090 desktop for what these laptops cost and have money to spare for accessories. To me the cost doesn't justify the performance this generation of laptops, but that's just my opinion.
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Lynnxy
01-07-2017, 05:19 PM #4

I'll answer in chunks.
Why - Mine is the 1080p/300hz model, so most games do run fine, just wish they were better. I know I won't get my desktops level of performance but at least better. So I figured with that and the other pristine condition laptop I had I could sell both cheap and come close to a new one.
Performance - From my research the 6800m is roughly a 6700XT, fairly respectable for what it is. When comparing AMD I found 3 models 7600s, 7700s and 7900m.
Spec for spec minus the Infinity cache the 7900m does on paper outperform mine but not enough to bother upgrading.
As for Nvidia, I'll be honest, I looked at 2 or 3 models and don't know what I thought I saw at 2am. As for the 4080 and 4090 they are 12GB and 16GB respectively, again, don't know where the hell I saw 8GB. The 4070 was 8GB so I didn't even look at the specs for that and had I looked at the 4080 and 4090 properly, I would have delved into their specs more but pricing starts going bye-bye with those two.
Price - What I meant in regards to price, I could build another way more powerful (but not portable obviously) 4090 desktop for what these laptops cost and have money to spare for accessories. To me the cost doesn't justify the performance this generation of laptops, but that's just my opinion.

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Frostyduff
Member
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01-12-2017, 06:02 AM
#5
Not exactly. The 6800M mobile matches the RX 6600 desktop version, as shown in the comparison links.
A comparison of the RX 6700 XT shows it significantly outperforms both the RX 6600 and the 6800M mobile, making it a solid upgrade option for less powerful systems.
The RTX 40-series will likely command a premium price, which is partly due to Nvidia's strong market position.
AMD is falling behind in GPU research and development, so they risk further losing ground compared to Nvidia if the trend continues.
This situation is well understood, affecting not just laptops but also desktops with GPUs.
For your question: it’s wise to stick with what you have. Upgrading to a better laptop offers limited benefit since you’re satisfied with current performance and don’t see much improvement in value.
Switching to a desktop provides more worth, though it sacrifices portability. If you don’t want to build a compact system yourself, a mini PC or similar setup might be the way to go.
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Frostyduff
01-12-2017, 06:02 AM #5

Not exactly. The 6800M mobile matches the RX 6600 desktop version, as shown in the comparison links.
A comparison of the RX 6700 XT shows it significantly outperforms both the RX 6600 and the 6800M mobile, making it a solid upgrade option for less powerful systems.
The RTX 40-series will likely command a premium price, which is partly due to Nvidia's strong market position.
AMD is falling behind in GPU research and development, so they risk further losing ground compared to Nvidia if the trend continues.
This situation is well understood, affecting not just laptops but also desktops with GPUs.
For your question: it’s wise to stick with what you have. Upgrading to a better laptop offers limited benefit since you’re satisfied with current performance and don’t see much improvement in value.
Switching to a desktop provides more worth, though it sacrifices portability. If you don’t want to build a compact system yourself, a mini PC or similar setup might be the way to go.

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chenglee1998
Member
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01-13-2017, 06:17 AM
#6
It seems we've reached a point where things don't quite add up. Appreciate the thoughts you shared.
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chenglee1998
01-13-2017, 06:17 AM #6

It seems we've reached a point where things don't quite add up. Appreciate the thoughts you shared.