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Bonnibel
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03-18-2023, 06:25 PM
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For reference @Ramim haque, he often discusses RAM overclocking. However, reaching 3600mhz is seen as the ideal frequency for Ryzen 3000 and 5000 CPUs; beyond that, gains become minimal and noticeable improvements are rare. Additionally, 3600mhz can be easily achieved with any compatible RAM module by activating XMP settings. Unless you're specifically into enthusiast-level overclocking, this shouldn't be a key factor when selecting a motherboard.
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Bonnibel
03-18-2023, 06:25 PM #11

For reference @Ramim haque, he often discusses RAM overclocking. However, reaching 3600mhz is seen as the ideal frequency for Ryzen 3000 and 5000 CPUs; beyond that, gains become minimal and noticeable improvements are rare. Additionally, 3600mhz can be easily achieved with any compatible RAM module by activating XMP settings. Unless you're specifically into enthusiast-level overclocking, this shouldn't be a key factor when selecting a motherboard.

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AcidixBlitzHD
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03-20-2023, 08:35 PM
#12
The figure mentioned operates at a 2:1 speed setting rather than a 1:1 ratio. Focusing on it would yield significantly better results, especially if you avoid unnecessary delays.
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AcidixBlitzHD
03-20-2023, 08:35 PM #12

The figure mentioned operates at a 2:1 speed setting rather than a 1:1 ratio. Focusing on it would yield significantly better results, especially if you avoid unnecessary delays.

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Redstoner137
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03-20-2023, 10:04 PM
#13
It's better to skip the am4 plan and consider Intel or wait for the Ryzen 7000 instead.
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Redstoner137
03-20-2023, 10:04 PM #13

It's better to skip the am4 plan and consider Intel or wait for the Ryzen 7000 instead.

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Shadowbird_
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03-21-2023, 05:45 PM
#14
2:1 mode refers to a specific audio mixing setting where two channels are panned at 50% each, creating a balanced stereo image.
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Shadowbird_
03-21-2023, 05:45 PM #14

2:1 mode refers to a specific audio mixing setting where two channels are panned at 50% each, creating a balanced stereo image.

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1_GOAT_1
Junior Member
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03-22-2023, 01:34 AM
#15
On Ryzen you find Infinity Fabric, which manages your RAM memory. In 1:1 mode the processor and RAM move together at identical speeds. For example, 1600MHz controllers work well with 1600MHz RAM since it’s straightforward for the controller. Higher-speed RAM like 3200MHz operates at 1600MHz due to Double Data Rate technology. Each transmitted signal gets one received. With faster RAM, if the controller can’t match the speed, you’ll switch to 2:1 mode. DDR4 at 4400MHz runs around 2200MHz; without a good memory controller it drops to 1100MHz, leading to less communication and slower data transfer between RAM and CPU. Edited July 27, 2022 by IkeaGnome Sorry if this is unclear or oversimplified. On mobile devices...
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1_GOAT_1
03-22-2023, 01:34 AM #15

On Ryzen you find Infinity Fabric, which manages your RAM memory. In 1:1 mode the processor and RAM move together at identical speeds. For example, 1600MHz controllers work well with 1600MHz RAM since it’s straightforward for the controller. Higher-speed RAM like 3200MHz operates at 1600MHz due to Double Data Rate technology. Each transmitted signal gets one received. With faster RAM, if the controller can’t match the speed, you’ll switch to 2:1 mode. DDR4 at 4400MHz runs around 2200MHz; without a good memory controller it drops to 1100MHz, leading to less communication and slower data transfer between RAM and CPU. Edited July 27, 2022 by IkeaGnome Sorry if this is unclear or oversimplified. On mobile devices...

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MiniAlex7892
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03-22-2023, 01:54 AM
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Great! Let's get started.
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MiniAlex7892
03-22-2023, 01:54 AM #16

Great! Let's get started.

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BluidyCraft
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03-22-2023, 07:15 AM
#17
Hey, your latest setup is X58 or Z77—don’t mention things you don’t understand. Still, AM4 will remain relevant for some time, and new CPUs are being developed for it too. It’ll coexist with AM5 for a while, even if only briefly.
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BluidyCraft
03-22-2023, 07:15 AM #17

Hey, your latest setup is X58 or Z77—don’t mention things you don’t understand. Still, AM4 will remain relevant for some time, and new CPUs are being developed for it too. It’ll coexist with AM5 for a while, even if only briefly.

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SniperChickens
Junior Member
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03-22-2023, 08:54 AM
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It's interesting how these systems interconnect. Similar APUs were moved to the B350 chipset from previous FX designs. Probably when you order large quantities, you need a strategy to clear stock since inventory builds up. I'm looking forward to AMD introducing DDR5 memory OC as promised. They should perform well, though they have had issues with a 2:1 speed reduction in DDR4. With Intel, you'd have to match that approach. Reducing the memory controller speed seems less effective for DDR5 speeds above 6000mhz. Once you boost the revs, handling 100K reads and writes becomes feasible with a solid CPU.
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SniperChickens
03-22-2023, 08:54 AM #18

It's interesting how these systems interconnect. Similar APUs were moved to the B350 chipset from previous FX designs. Probably when you order large quantities, you need a strategy to clear stock since inventory builds up. I'm looking forward to AMD introducing DDR5 memory OC as promised. They should perform well, though they have had issues with a 2:1 speed reduction in DDR4. With Intel, you'd have to match that approach. Reducing the memory controller speed seems less effective for DDR5 speeds above 6000mhz. Once you boost the revs, handling 100K reads and writes becomes feasible with a solid CPU.

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Shandy_
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03-29-2023, 01:58 AM
#19
the z77 is almost finished but i need some profit first. maybe then if i upgrade my pentium i can reach around 3000, not exactly super fast though. most good manufacturers can do it, but it’s quick enough that only a few high-end users can match it. i know about 2600 ddr3 being slow (hx-p, psc 1gbit, rev d2gbit etc.) and definitely under 1200 ddr2 is not great either (d9gxx over 1200, nanya d above 1400, etc.). so under 4400 ddr4 is also slow. when cheap revs hit 4600+, it’s still not fast unless you have a good controller that can handle it. the biggest limit is usually the RAM controller, which often halves speed for higher clocks. getting into ddr4 5000+ is only possible with a 4500/5500+ module and a 520mh memory, which is still pricey. for fun purposes, i’d suggest a decent chip like micron rev e and follow a profile online—most of the gains come from proper tuning without spending much time. it’s not worth the trouble unless you really want top speed.
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Shandy_
03-29-2023, 01:58 AM #19

the z77 is almost finished but i need some profit first. maybe then if i upgrade my pentium i can reach around 3000, not exactly super fast though. most good manufacturers can do it, but it’s quick enough that only a few high-end users can match it. i know about 2600 ddr3 being slow (hx-p, psc 1gbit, rev d2gbit etc.) and definitely under 1200 ddr2 is not great either (d9gxx over 1200, nanya d above 1400, etc.). so under 4400 ddr4 is also slow. when cheap revs hit 4600+, it’s still not fast unless you have a good controller that can handle it. the biggest limit is usually the RAM controller, which often halves speed for higher clocks. getting into ddr4 5000+ is only possible with a 4500/5500+ module and a 520mh memory, which is still pricey. for fun purposes, i’d suggest a decent chip like micron rev e and follow a profile online—most of the gains come from proper tuning without spending much time. it’s not worth the trouble unless you really want top speed.

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jackymai
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03-29-2023, 07:11 AM
#20
Upgrade path seems like a solid buy, especially if you're targeting 5600x or 12400. Anything else you add will likely become outdated soon. Save money on components that aren't crucial—like GPU or CPU—just to run a 12900k board in four years. It won’t be groundbreaking in performance, but it’ll still get the job done.
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jackymai
03-29-2023, 07:11 AM #20

Upgrade path seems like a solid buy, especially if you're targeting 5600x or 12400. Anything else you add will likely become outdated soon. Save money on components that aren't crucial—like GPU or CPU—just to run a 12900k board in four years. It won’t be groundbreaking in performance, but it’ll still get the job done.

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