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Selecting a new motherboard involves considering your system needs and compatibility.

Selecting a new motherboard involves considering your system needs and compatibility.

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RCGamer150
Junior Member
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10-26-2017, 03:37 AM
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Hello, I'm setting up a new system. I'm planning to purchase a Ryzen 7 5800X3D but I'm uncertain about the motherboard choice. I don't intend to overclock the CPU; instead, I'll rely on the built-in AMD PBO for boost performance. I intend to use Dark Rock Pro 4 for cooling and consider overclocking slightly higher than the stock 4.5GHz. The main challenge is finding a suitable motherboard. There are pricing issues and limited availability in my country. I was thinking of the Gigabyte X570 Aorus Elite (around 200-250€) because of positive reviews and solid power delivery, but it's currently out of stock everywhere. I found a deal on an Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero for -330€. For my requirements, would the Dark Hero be sufficient, or should I opt for a more affordable option like the B550 motherboard (about 150-200€)? The Asus ROG Strix B550-A is around 155€. Any suggestions or advice on this?
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RCGamer150
10-26-2017, 03:37 AM #1

Hello, I'm setting up a new system. I'm planning to purchase a Ryzen 7 5800X3D but I'm uncertain about the motherboard choice. I don't intend to overclock the CPU; instead, I'll rely on the built-in AMD PBO for boost performance. I intend to use Dark Rock Pro 4 for cooling and consider overclocking slightly higher than the stock 4.5GHz. The main challenge is finding a suitable motherboard. There are pricing issues and limited availability in my country. I was thinking of the Gigabyte X570 Aorus Elite (around 200-250€) because of positive reviews and solid power delivery, but it's currently out of stock everywhere. I found a deal on an Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero for -330€. For my requirements, would the Dark Hero be sufficient, or should I opt for a more affordable option like the B550 motherboard (about 150-200€)? The Asus ROG Strix B550-A is around 155€. Any suggestions or advice on this?

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kcaz56
Senior Member
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10-26-2017, 03:37 AM
#2
Do you have RAM installed yet? If not, then why not opt for 7800X3D plus B650? You can find good boards around 200€.
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kcaz56
10-26-2017, 03:37 AM #2

Do you have RAM installed yet? If not, then why not opt for 7800X3D plus B650? You can find good boards around 200€.

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Pixel_Pixie_
Junior Member
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10-26-2017, 03:37 AM
#3
For new builds, skip the 5800x3d configuration. Consider the 13600/13700 Intel series or the 7700x/7800x3d arrangement.
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Pixel_Pixie_
10-26-2017, 03:37 AM #3

For new builds, skip the 5800x3d configuration. Consider the 13600/13700 Intel series or the 7700x/7800x3d arrangement.

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imTri
Posting Freak
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10-26-2017, 03:37 AM
#4
the feature of the 5800x3d is that it's secured—you can't push it beyond a certain limit without using a curve optimizer to lower its voltage. from what i've heard, some msi and asus boards now have a CO tool built into their bios. i'm using PBO2 tuner to apply a -30 CO offset. it's important to note that this chip tends to get warmer because the additional VCache is placed on top of the die, which helps with heat but adds thermal resistance. i've tried various coolers and consistently kept my chip between 80-90°C during heavy use. right now, i'm planning to wait for the 7800x3d if you're sticking with an x3d processor.
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imTri
10-26-2017, 03:37 AM #4

the feature of the 5800x3d is that it's secured—you can't push it beyond a certain limit without using a curve optimizer to lower its voltage. from what i've heard, some msi and asus boards now have a CO tool built into their bios. i'm using PBO2 tuner to apply a -30 CO offset. it's important to note that this chip tends to get warmer because the additional VCache is placed on top of the die, which helps with heat but adds thermal resistance. i've tried various coolers and consistently kept my chip between 80-90°C during heavy use. right now, i'm planning to wait for the 7800x3d if you're sticking with an x3d processor.

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miknes123
Senior Member
646
10-26-2017, 03:37 AM
#5
The clock speed is being boosted but you’ll likely end up around 105 unless you upgrade to Gen3 or 2 PCIe. That should still support 4.7G, which matches Zen3’s peak before it needs extreme voltage increases. It might be easier to set all cores to 4.5G instead.
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miknes123
10-26-2017, 03:37 AM #5

The clock speed is being boosted but you’ll likely end up around 105 unless you upgrade to Gen3 or 2 PCIe. That should still support 4.7G, which matches Zen3’s peak before it needs extreme voltage increases. It might be easier to set all cores to 4.5G instead.

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GamEngYT
Junior Member
12
10-26-2017, 03:37 AM
#6
Usually I don’t suggest BCLK since it can cause issues with input/output connections, though I’m aware of that. Personally, around 200 MHz isn’t really beneficial—technically you’re right. It’s easier just to keep it at a lower frequency.
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GamEngYT
10-26-2017, 03:37 AM #6

Usually I don’t suggest BCLK since it can cause issues with input/output connections, though I’m aware of that. Personally, around 200 MHz isn’t really beneficial—technically you’re right. It’s easier just to keep it at a lower frequency.

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xSudden
Member
228
10-26-2017, 03:37 AM
#7
It's a positive response from everyone. I've considered this before sharing it. The main issue is that the processor isn't available yet. The MSRP is 500$, but since I'm from Bosnia, the selling price could be higher—perhaps 700-750€ more or less. While the R7 5800x3d costs around 325€, AM5 motherboards are also quite costly here due to DDR5 support.

I'm not a dedicated gamer; I mainly play low-end FPS games like CS:GO and Valorant, and occasionally some AAA titles that require more power. I wouldn't invest much in upgrading unless I have a separate gaming PC. My plan is to build a system with the R7 5800x3d now, use it for a couple of years or more, then sell it for an AM5 platform. That's why I'm searching for a good motherboard. I just found out about this.

I'm still unsure about the Dark Rock Pro 4's ability to keep up with the R7 5800x3d. The R7 7800x3d should probably overheat it, especially if it runs hotter.
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xSudden
10-26-2017, 03:37 AM #7

It's a positive response from everyone. I've considered this before sharing it. The main issue is that the processor isn't available yet. The MSRP is 500$, but since I'm from Bosnia, the selling price could be higher—perhaps 700-750€ more or less. While the R7 5800x3d costs around 325€, AM5 motherboards are also quite costly here due to DDR5 support.

I'm not a dedicated gamer; I mainly play low-end FPS games like CS:GO and Valorant, and occasionally some AAA titles that require more power. I wouldn't invest much in upgrading unless I have a separate gaming PC. My plan is to build a system with the R7 5800x3d now, use it for a couple of years or more, then sell it for an AM5 platform. That's why I'm searching for a good motherboard. I just found out about this.

I'm still unsure about the Dark Rock Pro 4's ability to keep up with the R7 5800x3d. The R7 7800x3d should probably overheat it, especially if it runs hotter.

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MSU_Dawg
Member
69
10-26-2017, 03:37 AM
#8
There seems to be some confusion about the specifications you're considering. The 7700x is a high-end processor, and its price would likely differ from x670 or B650 models. Performance options around 5800x3D are available, but overclocking might not be worth it for the stock clocks. Focus on the higher-end models if you want to stay within the premium range.
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MSU_Dawg
10-26-2017, 03:37 AM #8

There seems to be some confusion about the specifications you're considering. The 7700x is a high-end processor, and its price would likely differ from x670 or B650 models. Performance options around 5800x3D are available, but overclocking might not be worth it for the stock clocks. Focus on the higher-end models if you want to stay within the premium range.

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FireFang186
Junior Member
31
10-26-2017, 03:37 AM
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Check my settings. I use a B650 board with the 7700x chipset. With a PBO offset of -30, I run at 5.45GHz all-core and 5.65GHz single-core. These B650 boards perform just as well as the Z670 ones; the main differences come from Gen 5 features. Some claim the X670 VRMs will help with future upgrades. If the AM5 line expands like AM4, that could be true. However, the B450 models can handle a 5800x3d, so I expect a B650 to support a 9800x3d in a few years. Still, I’ll likely build something new. I’m not convinced by the “upgrade hype” spreading everywhere. I might consider the 7800X3D, but for now the 7700X meets my needs well at 1440p Ultra Wide.
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FireFang186
10-26-2017, 03:37 AM #9

Check my settings. I use a B650 board with the 7700x chipset. With a PBO offset of -30, I run at 5.45GHz all-core and 5.65GHz single-core. These B650 boards perform just as well as the Z670 ones; the main differences come from Gen 5 features. Some claim the X670 VRMs will help with future upgrades. If the AM5 line expands like AM4, that could be true. However, the B450 models can handle a 5800x3d, so I expect a B650 to support a 9800x3d in a few years. Still, I’ll likely build something new. I’m not convinced by the “upgrade hype” spreading everywhere. I might consider the 7800X3D, but for now the 7700X meets my needs well at 1440p Ultra Wide.