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Seeking fiber connection without relying on local ISPs' providers

Seeking fiber connection without relying on local ISPs' providers

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FramezTheBest
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04-27-2023, 08:21 AM
#11
Great! Thanks for the details. I'm excited to begin and feel confident moving forward.
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FramezTheBest
04-27-2023, 08:21 AM #11

Great! Thanks for the details. I'm excited to begin and feel confident moving forward.

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SirHitman
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04-27-2023, 01:45 PM
#12
Looking at fiber providers in the US, you usually need to rely on their equipment. The quality you experience depends largely on what they offer you. Verizon offers a standard ONT that should switch your fiber into coaxial and Ethernet connections. Comcast Gigabit Pro turns its fiber into 1 Gbps Ethernet and SFP+, probably only providing a fiber port because it supports 2 Gbps fiber. AT&T has a convenient ONT router combo. I know no ONTs are sold at Best Buy, so you’re likely stuck using their services. If they supply a standard ONT, the issue seems clear. If they offer a gateway device, hope it includes bridge or pass-through functionality similar to AT&T’s Gateway.
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SirHitman
04-27-2023, 01:45 PM #12

Looking at fiber providers in the US, you usually need to rely on their equipment. The quality you experience depends largely on what they offer you. Verizon offers a standard ONT that should switch your fiber into coaxial and Ethernet connections. Comcast Gigabit Pro turns its fiber into 1 Gbps Ethernet and SFP+, probably only providing a fiber port because it supports 2 Gbps fiber. AT&T has a convenient ONT router combo. I know no ONTs are sold at Best Buy, so you’re likely stuck using their services. If they supply a standard ONT, the issue seems clear. If they offer a gateway device, hope it includes bridge or pass-through functionality similar to AT&T’s Gateway.

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Kres_Jacobsen
Junior Member
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04-27-2023, 03:19 PM
#13
I'm focusing on the fact that "fiber equals speed" isn't always accurate. When you consider wave splitters, mux/demux devices, and fiber doping, it's more about practicality than performance. Fiber mainly serves as a medium in most non-carrier networks—it's straightforward, just moving light between points. You won’t achieve a fully fiber connection because once it reaches your switch, it transitions to electrical signals. There might be some optical-electrical-optical paths if you include switches, but it’s not a true 100% fiber setup unless you’re looking at the visible part. Fiber has its uses, and I’ve worked with it extensively. The reason I choose copper over fiber is because of reliability, cost, durability, power handling, and easier termination. For speeds like 10G or 0G, copper works well. If you require ultra-high speeds over long distances, fiber becomes essential. The more distance you need, the more you benefit from fiber’s capabilities.
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Kres_Jacobsen
04-27-2023, 03:19 PM #13

I'm focusing on the fact that "fiber equals speed" isn't always accurate. When you consider wave splitters, mux/demux devices, and fiber doping, it's more about practicality than performance. Fiber mainly serves as a medium in most non-carrier networks—it's straightforward, just moving light between points. You won’t achieve a fully fiber connection because once it reaches your switch, it transitions to electrical signals. There might be some optical-electrical-optical paths if you include switches, but it’s not a true 100% fiber setup unless you’re looking at the visible part. Fiber has its uses, and I’ve worked with it extensively. The reason I choose copper over fiber is because of reliability, cost, durability, power handling, and easier termination. For speeds like 10G or 0G, copper works well. If you require ultra-high speeds over long distances, fiber becomes essential. The more distance you need, the more you benefit from fiber’s capabilities.

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SuperIker9
Junior Member
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04-27-2023, 06:37 PM
#14
Thanks in advance for this useful guidance. I’m still getting familiar with fiber, and this clarifies a lot about what I should set up for my home network. I was focusing mainly on reducing latency, but I didn’t realize how much gear is required. I’ll likely stick mostly to copper for reliability and durability. Appreciate the help!
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SuperIker9
04-27-2023, 06:37 PM #14

Thanks in advance for this useful guidance. I’m still getting familiar with fiber, and this clarifies a lot about what I should set up for my home network. I was focusing mainly on reducing latency, but I didn’t realize how much gear is required. I’ll likely stick mostly to copper for reliability and durability. Appreciate the help!

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fish_tommy
Member
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04-27-2023, 07:30 PM
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They haven’t specified the exact equipment yet, and their site clarifies they don’t guarantee what’s shown. I’ll just have to wait and observe, I think.
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fish_tommy
04-27-2023, 07:30 PM #15

They haven’t specified the exact equipment yet, and their site clarifies they don’t guarantee what’s shown. I’ll just have to wait and observe, I think.

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xX_pgmdu92_Xx
Member
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04-30-2023, 04:55 PM
#16
Sure thing, everyone assumes fiber offers quick or low latency because many fiber installations are built that way. The data speeds a provider can push down a single fiber can be astonishing—ranging from terabits per second. They employ a method called DWDM, which condenses a single fiber into multiple optical channels (8 to 32 or more). That’s impressive! Each channel can support high-speed links, often reaching 100G or even 400G, and they can cover hundreds of miles. It’s truly remarkable technology, though the cost is similarly high. The benefit is that most homes don’t require multi-terabit connections, so we’re not competing with Verizon for the newest DWDM equipment. In local setups, fiber is mainly used for long distances—like linking a farm to a house 500 feet away—where single-mode fiber works best. It offers greater range than standard connections but isn’t faster than a 10G BaseT link; it just travels farther. If you’re planning such a connection, research DWDM thoroughly—it’ll be a game-changer.
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xX_pgmdu92_Xx
04-30-2023, 04:55 PM #16

Sure thing, everyone assumes fiber offers quick or low latency because many fiber installations are built that way. The data speeds a provider can push down a single fiber can be astonishing—ranging from terabits per second. They employ a method called DWDM, which condenses a single fiber into multiple optical channels (8 to 32 or more). That’s impressive! Each channel can support high-speed links, often reaching 100G or even 400G, and they can cover hundreds of miles. It’s truly remarkable technology, though the cost is similarly high. The benefit is that most homes don’t require multi-terabit connections, so we’re not competing with Verizon for the newest DWDM equipment. In local setups, fiber is mainly used for long distances—like linking a farm to a house 500 feet away—where single-mode fiber works best. It offers greater range than standard connections but isn’t faster than a 10G BaseT link; it just travels farther. If you’re planning such a connection, research DWDM thoroughly—it’ll be a game-changer.

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AlmightyEag
Posting Freak
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05-01-2023, 03:33 PM
#17
They likely offer Ethernet and coaxial service without a router, with coax for TV. Or they might bundle everything into one device. Comcast doesn’t combine cable and internet on Gigabit Pro because it’s strictly internet-focused. Remember, Ethernet can handle up to 10 Gbps, so copper still has value. Fiber is best when you need a cheaper 10 Gbps connection. You’d prefer running wires outside since fiber doesn’t carry electricity, and it works well for long runs over 100 meters.
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AlmightyEag
05-01-2023, 03:33 PM #17

They likely offer Ethernet and coaxial service without a router, with coax for TV. Or they might bundle everything into one device. Comcast doesn’t combine cable and internet on Gigabit Pro because it’s strictly internet-focused. Remember, Ethernet can handle up to 10 Gbps, so copper still has value. Fiber is best when you need a cheaper 10 Gbps connection. You’d prefer running wires outside since fiber doesn’t carry electricity, and it works well for long runs over 100 meters.

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