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iTzCheTTo
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01-01-2021, 12:49 PM
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Hey all, i just saw Linus' video on the new intel CPUs and it looks great, but i don't exactly understand the platform. I understand that big cores will be used for the big tasks, gaming and video editing and what not, while the little cores will be used for more mundane things such as web browsing or playing back content from netflix and what not. What i do not understand is if these little cores are doing nothing while the big cores are doing the gaming or video editing stuff, i know Linus said that these efficiency cores 'pack a punch' after looking at the Cinebench R32 benchmark, but does that mean they are active for all the other benchmarks? And if so, to what extent? And a platform question i have is if you are locked into going DDR5 with the new Alder Lake CPUs and motherboards? It would be cool to rock an unlocked i5 in this new platform while also being able to chose budget friendly components. Perhaps these are dumb questions and the answers are another video away, but ive been out of the market for new hardware for a while and this seems really compelling.
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iTzCheTTo
01-01-2021, 12:49 PM #1

Hey all, i just saw Linus' video on the new intel CPUs and it looks great, but i don't exactly understand the platform. I understand that big cores will be used for the big tasks, gaming and video editing and what not, while the little cores will be used for more mundane things such as web browsing or playing back content from netflix and what not. What i do not understand is if these little cores are doing nothing while the big cores are doing the gaming or video editing stuff, i know Linus said that these efficiency cores 'pack a punch' after looking at the Cinebench R32 benchmark, but does that mean they are active for all the other benchmarks? And if so, to what extent? And a platform question i have is if you are locked into going DDR5 with the new Alder Lake CPUs and motherboards? It would be cool to rock an unlocked i5 in this new platform while also being able to chose budget friendly components. Perhaps these are dumb questions and the answers are another video away, but ive been out of the market for new hardware for a while and this seems really compelling.

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EvaGos
Junior Member
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01-01-2021, 08:03 PM
#2
The E cores are likely assigned background jobs and system operations, whereas the P cores receive more resources for handling gameplay and benchmark tasks. It's also possible that the E cores will attempt to handle some of the workload from the main tasks as well.
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EvaGos
01-01-2021, 08:03 PM #2

The E cores are likely assigned background jobs and system operations, whereas the P cores receive more resources for handling gameplay and benchmark tasks. It's also possible that the E cores will attempt to handle some of the workload from the main tasks as well.

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bobthebest33
Junior Member
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01-02-2021, 12:30 AM
#3
It seems the P cores are impressive on their own, but it would be interesting to observe how the E cores perform in real time. I think Linus should revisit that "BLOAT is killing your FPS" video again (even though bloat wasn't actually affecting performance), especially with these CPUs. Comparing across generations or pushing an older CPU to its limits would be even more revealing.
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bobthebest33
01-02-2021, 12:30 AM #3

It seems the P cores are impressive on their own, but it would be interesting to observe how the E cores perform in real time. I think Linus should revisit that "BLOAT is killing your FPS" video again (even though bloat wasn't actually affecting performance), especially with these CPUs. Comparing across generations or pushing an older CPU to its limits would be even more revealing.

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Recacau
Junior Member
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01-02-2021, 01:59 PM
#4
The video performed extremely poorly, delivering the worst possible experience for its intended platform. It would have been better if it ran on a solid mid-range Ryzen processor or an Intel mid-range chip from the 6th to 7th generation with 1060 RAM. Using a high-end PC wouldn't have helped.
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Recacau
01-02-2021, 01:59 PM #4

The video performed extremely poorly, delivering the worst possible experience for its intended platform. It would have been better if it ran on a solid mid-range Ryzen processor or an Intel mid-range chip from the 6th to 7th generation with 1060 RAM. Using a high-end PC wouldn't have helped.

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Elizabeth13
Junior Member
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01-07-2021, 12:13 PM
#5
there are both ddr4 and ddr5 boards available, meaning you can't just replace RAM later. In short, gaming performance improves by about 10%, especially when both zen 3 and 12th gen processors run at 250w, and the 12600k offers great value either way.
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Elizabeth13
01-07-2021, 12:13 PM #5

there are both ddr4 and ddr5 boards available, meaning you can't just replace RAM later. In short, gaming performance improves by about 10%, especially when both zen 3 and 12th gen processors run at 250w, and the 12600k offers great value either way.

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john0404
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01-07-2021, 01:52 PM
#6
I completely understood, I finished the video and saw I had squandered my time. I didn’t gain anything useful XD Of course, they don’t fit into the other slot because of the different notch, but for me that’s irrelevant—I’d rather not pay an early adopter fee. These CPUs are amazing in performance and value, but I wouldn’t let expensive RAM overshadow them.
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john0404
01-07-2021, 01:52 PM #6

I completely understood, I finished the video and saw I had squandered my time. I didn’t gain anything useful XD Of course, they don’t fit into the other slot because of the different notch, but for me that’s irrelevant—I’d rather not pay an early adopter fee. These CPUs are amazing in performance and value, but I wouldn’t let expensive RAM overshadow them.

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i3z___
Senior Member
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01-23-2021, 03:53 AM
#7
This topic is something we’ll all be diving deeper into soon. We’re entering new ground in certain areas. While mobile devices have faced this issue for years, Alder Lake presents a unique challenge. It’s similar to how dual-core CPUs sparked debate about the purpose of the second core, and even though dual-socket systems exist, they operate quite differently. The operating system decides how tasks are split among cores, but I think applications will also have a role to play once this design becomes widespread enough for developers to invest time in optimizing for it. We can’t predict exactly what will emerge in ten years—perhaps Windows will run entirely on E cores, P cores will power down when idle to conserve energy, or single-threaded games might be allowed to run solely on a single core so Windows can prevent conflicts and ensure smooth performance. Or maybe developers won’t bother writing low-level code for it, leaving Windows to figure things out on its own.
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i3z___
01-23-2021, 03:53 AM #7

This topic is something we’ll all be diving deeper into soon. We’re entering new ground in certain areas. While mobile devices have faced this issue for years, Alder Lake presents a unique challenge. It’s similar to how dual-core CPUs sparked debate about the purpose of the second core, and even though dual-socket systems exist, they operate quite differently. The operating system decides how tasks are split among cores, but I think applications will also have a role to play once this design becomes widespread enough for developers to invest time in optimizing for it. We can’t predict exactly what will emerge in ten years—perhaps Windows will run entirely on E cores, P cores will power down when idle to conserve energy, or single-threaded games might be allowed to run solely on a single core so Windows can prevent conflicts and ensure smooth performance. Or maybe developers won’t bother writing low-level code for it, leaving Windows to figure things out on its own.

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DangoBravo
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01-23-2021, 04:16 AM
#8
I completely understand, it's really interesting that the market is moving this way, and I'm curious about how game optimization functions on such a platform. Of course there are many uncertainties, and we can only guess a lot. Maybe new benchmarking tools will appear to clearly show what programs or operating systems are using the cores and how they could be improved.
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DangoBravo
01-23-2021, 04:16 AM #8

I completely understand, it's really interesting that the market is moving this way, and I'm curious about how game optimization functions on such a platform. Of course there are many uncertainties, and we can only guess a lot. Maybe new benchmarking tools will appear to clearly show what programs or operating systems are using the cores and how they could be improved.

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Fufuit
Member
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01-31-2021, 01:13 AM
#9
The main issue is limited choices for better performance and higher prices for DDR5 chips. When these become more consistent, choosing wisely will be simpler.
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Fufuit
01-31-2021, 01:13 AM #9

The main issue is limited choices for better performance and higher prices for DDR5 chips. When these become more consistent, choosing wisely will be simpler.

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Stefan_Wdf
Junior Member
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02-04-2021, 09:58 PM
#10
Now it looks like upgrading from DDR3 1600MHz to DDR4 2133MHz will be common in a short while (maybe next few months?). DDR5 costs and performance are likely to become more affordable soon.
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Stefan_Wdf
02-04-2021, 09:58 PM #10

Now it looks like upgrading from DDR3 1600MHz to DDR4 2133MHz will be common in a short while (maybe next few months?). DDR5 costs and performance are likely to become more affordable soon.

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