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Ryzen 9000 Series – Everyone Should Relax

Ryzen 9000 Series – Everyone Should Relax

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DaKaHD_
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06-04-2022, 06:42 AM
#11
Executives should focus on reaching their intended customers, don't they? The extremely low TDP of the 9700X can be off-putting to its main users: home desktop enthusiasts. It isn’t designed like a Threadripper or an EPYC server, so energy efficiency isn’t the main concern. Still, 300-watt Intel i7 and i9 processors wouldn’t have been possible without this design.
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DaKaHD_
06-04-2022, 06:42 AM #11

Executives should focus on reaching their intended customers, don't they? The extremely low TDP of the 9700X can be off-putting to its main users: home desktop enthusiasts. It isn’t designed like a Threadripper or an EPYC server, so energy efficiency isn’t the main concern. Still, 300-watt Intel i7 and i9 processors wouldn’t have been possible without this design.

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TMGC_Oderic
Member
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06-05-2022, 07:41 AM
#12
It's worth noting that the 9700/9600x chips aren't built for direct competition with the 300W Intel chips. The 9900/9950x is intended for that role.
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TMGC_Oderic
06-05-2022, 07:41 AM #12

It's worth noting that the 9700/9600x chips aren't built for direct competition with the 300W Intel chips. The 9900/9950x is intended for that role.

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Commando__
Senior Member
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06-06-2022, 02:27 AM
#13
You're right. It seems the chips aren't performing as expected, unlike Intel's situation.
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Commando__
06-06-2022, 02:27 AM #13

You're right. It seems the chips aren't performing as expected, unlike Intel's situation.

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Cl0ud_Client
Member
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06-06-2022, 03:57 AM
#14
Absolutely, but also consider the 14700K models drawing around 250W, which matches the performance of 9700K chips directly. The key takeaway is that power efficiency isn’t the main concern for home desktop users—it’s definitely not the top priority. In fact, cooling remains the biggest factor worldwide, especially since people dislike how hot modern Intel CPUs get. The 14900K often throttles completely under full load; Linus once needed a 5000-watt industrial chiller just to prevent overheating. While efficiency matters, performance always comes first and has always been more important. That’s why we keep upgrading for better speed, not just efficiency. The Ryzen 7000 already offered much better efficiency than Intel, and AMD overstepped by pushing too hard. It’s simply the reality—what happened.
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Cl0ud_Client
06-06-2022, 03:57 AM #14

Absolutely, but also consider the 14700K models drawing around 250W, which matches the performance of 9700K chips directly. The key takeaway is that power efficiency isn’t the main concern for home desktop users—it’s definitely not the top priority. In fact, cooling remains the biggest factor worldwide, especially since people dislike how hot modern Intel CPUs get. The 14900K often throttles completely under full load; Linus once needed a 5000-watt industrial chiller just to prevent overheating. While efficiency matters, performance always comes first and has always been more important. That’s why we keep upgrading for better speed, not just efficiency. The Ryzen 7000 already offered much better efficiency than Intel, and AMD overstepped by pushing too hard. It’s simply the reality—what happened.

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xRpMx14
Junior Member
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06-06-2022, 11:54 AM
#15
In their view, it seems like saving a bit of power will reduce electricity costs, allowing more savings over time—good concept, but weak implementation. They aimed for efficiency and simplicity, yet their approach often lacks careful planning. The reasoning exists, but execution tends to be poorly considered since they don’t fully grasp the technical aspects.
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xRpMx14
06-06-2022, 11:54 AM #15

In their view, it seems like saving a bit of power will reduce electricity costs, allowing more savings over time—good concept, but weak implementation. They aimed for efficiency and simplicity, yet their approach often lacks careful planning. The reasoning exists, but execution tends to be poorly considered since they don’t fully grasp the technical aspects.

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huskey000
Member
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06-11-2022, 07:45 AM
#16
Absolutely right—this approach went too far. Saving just a few watts here and there each generation is already beneficial. The real issue comes when efficiency jumps by around 20%, but power use drops by nearly half, which can hurt performance for users who value it. That’s essentially the core of the problem.
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huskey000
06-11-2022, 07:45 AM #16

Absolutely right—this approach went too far. Saving just a few watts here and there each generation is already beneficial. The real issue comes when efficiency jumps by around 20%, but power use drops by nearly half, which can hurt performance for users who value it. That’s essentially the core of the problem.

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Gemini_Soul_
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06-11-2022, 09:09 AM
#17
Typical server CPUs are built for numerous cores and slower speeds. With the recent Intel issues you've likely heard about, it's clear that data centers do purchase desktop CPUs for specific tasks needing better single-thread performance. This explains why many are struggling with the current situation. It raises questions if AMD intended to demonstrate Ryzen's efficiency. If all data centers switch from Intel 23rd/14th to Ryzen 9000 right now, gaming sales could drop significantly. Enthusiasts often use PBO for extra speed, but recent updates have made it less necessary. Many reviews once tested performance with PBO on Zen 3, only to see AMD raise Zen 4 clocks by default, rendering PBO almost unnecessary. Now they're reverting to older settings, which means more reviews are being done without PBO.
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Gemini_Soul_
06-11-2022, 09:09 AM #17

Typical server CPUs are built for numerous cores and slower speeds. With the recent Intel issues you've likely heard about, it's clear that data centers do purchase desktop CPUs for specific tasks needing better single-thread performance. This explains why many are struggling with the current situation. It raises questions if AMD intended to demonstrate Ryzen's efficiency. If all data centers switch from Intel 23rd/14th to Ryzen 9000 right now, gaming sales could drop significantly. Enthusiasts often use PBO for extra speed, but recent updates have made it less necessary. Many reviews once tested performance with PBO on Zen 3, only to see AMD raise Zen 4 clocks by default, rendering PBO almost unnecessary. Now they're reverting to older settings, which means more reviews are being done without PBO.

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Pumpkitten
Junior Member
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06-17-2022, 04:32 PM
#18
That’s the only sensible reason to consider, being honest, which means Corteks was correct about his take on things. Still remember, since Intel released the 13th gen, both enthusiasts and reviewers have been raising concerns about excessive heat and unrealistic power usage. It wasn’t just data centers pushing for better efficiency—everyone felt it. My view is that they went a bit overboard. Take the Ryzen 7000 series as an example; the 7600X comes with a default TDP of 105W, while the 6-core model from the previous generation has a default TDP about 40W higher than its newer 8-core counterpart. That seems excessive.
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Pumpkitten
06-17-2022, 04:32 PM #18

That’s the only sensible reason to consider, being honest, which means Corteks was correct about his take on things. Still remember, since Intel released the 13th gen, both enthusiasts and reviewers have been raising concerns about excessive heat and unrealistic power usage. It wasn’t just data centers pushing for better efficiency—everyone felt it. My view is that they went a bit overboard. Take the Ryzen 7000 series as an example; the 7600X comes with a default TDP of 105W, while the 6-core model from the previous generation has a default TDP about 40W higher than its newer 8-core counterpart. That seems excessive.

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