Ryzen 7 1700X - Trident G.Skill 3600Mhz Overclocking - Guide in Detail
Ryzen 7 1700X - Trident G.Skill 3600Mhz Overclocking - Guide in Detail
System details include a Ryzen 7 1700X with stable stock speeds, an Asus Crosshair Hero VI running the latest BIOS 1403, and Windows 10 Pro installed. The power supply is a Corsair RM850 850W 80+ Gold unit. Only the 8-pin connector is connected to the CPU, not both pins, unless performing extreme overclocking. RAM specifications are G.SKILL TridentZ Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) using 288-pin DDR4 SDRAM at 3600MHz. The stock speed ranges from 2133Mhz and is stable. I am familiar with BIOS settings and error codes, and have experience changing RAM timings. Software tools such as GPU-Z, CPU-Z, MSI Afterburner, and Thaiphoon Burner are available.
Wakeupdog :
System:
CPU: Ryzen 7, 1700X (Stock Speeds - Stable)
MB: Asus Crosshair Hero VI (Newest Bios 1403)
OS: Windows 10 Pro
PSU: Corsair, RM850 *850W 80+ Gold
(Only the 8 pin connected to the CPU, not both the 8pin and 4pin, other threads say this is fine unless doing extreme OC like LN2)
RAM:
G.SKILL TridentZ Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3600
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a...6820232194
Stock Speed: 2133Mhz - Stable
Skill Level:
I know how to go into the bios and change settings, i know what the buttons on my MB do and know most of the error codes.
Software Tools:
GPU-Z
CPU-Z
MSI Afterburner
Thaiphoon Burner
Question:
I purchased the best RAM and MB in order to be able to OC my RAM. I heard that there should be no issues getting to atleast 3200Mhz on the RAM.
1.
How to OC my RAM and CPU (2 X 8G)
- What is the first step to OC'ing my ram?
- I tried a couple presets in the bios, but it wont post.
- Feel free to provide links to guides, but consider me new. Most of these guides lose me when they start talking about changing timings, etc
Make sure you have version 1403 bios. Then set the AI Overclock Tuner to D.O.C.P. Standard. That should run your memory at it's rated speed.
If it doesn't, come back and we'll try to figure something else out.
Quick Note: If you didn't set the AOT to DOCP Standard, then it's likely running stock 2133 timings and voltage.....you'll never even get 3000 to boot up with those settings.
Ensure you're using version 1403 BIOS. The AI Overclock Tuner should be set to D.O.C.P. Standard for optimal performance. If it doesn't work, revisit and explore alternative solutions.
Quick Note: Without setting AOT to DOCP Standard, the system likely uses default 2133 timings and voltage, making booting with 3000 impossible.
Vellinious,
First, thank you very much for your assistance.
Second, I have the latest 1403 BIOS from ASUS, which was my first action after powering on.
Lastly,
I attempted the D.O.C.P. Standard setting in the AOT section of BIOS (tried last night).
I didn’t post and received a C9 error code—this isn’t listed in the manual.
No other adjustments were made during this process.
Progress is being made here.
First attempt adjustments:
- Switched to DOCP Standard settings
- Updated DRAM speed to 3600Mhz
- Adjusted CPU clock speed to 3400Mhz
- Set DRAM voltage to 1.30v
Result: No post, error C8 detected, orange DRAM LED illuminated on MOBO
Second attempt:
- Successfully booted into BIOS
- Modified DRAM speed to 3200Mhz
Next steps: Consider what actions will help achieve 3600Mhz boot.
Progress has been made here.
First attempt:
- Switched from default to DOCP Standard
*Expected effects:*
- DRAM speed adjusted to 3600Mhz
- CPU clock speed set to 3400Mhz
- DRAM voltage fixed at 1.30v
Result: No post, error code "C8", orange DRAM LED activated on MOBO
Second attempt:
- Successfully booted into BIOS
- DRAM speed changed to 3200Mhz
Result: Posted and started Windows (stable so far)
Next steps:
To try booting at 3600Mhz, I should manually adjust the memory voltage to 1.35v. It may need a slight increase to reach rated speed. Avoid exceeding 1.4v for daily operation.
In the External Digi+ Power Control area, set VDDSOC Load Line Calibration to level 2, VDDSOC Current Capability at 120%, and Phase Control to Extreme. Apply similar settings to memory controls and start with a boot voltage of 1.4v.
Keep SOC voltage on auto for now; monitor performance in HW Info. It should be between 1.1v and 1.2v. Higher memory clocks require more SOC voltage for stability. A voltage of 1.15v seems sufficient, though I’d consider lowering it slightly later.
For reference, here are some BIOS settings screenshots that may help, though they won’t match your exact configuration.
I would adjust the voltage on the memory to manual mode.
Currently, my DRAM Voltage remains fixed. I’m still using the DOCP Standard Configuration. Could this be the reason?
Also, I only have an 8Pin connection, not a 8Pin and 4Pin setup. Is that the cause of my locked RAM voltage?
When switching from DOCP standard back to manual mode, the DRAM voltage still appears locked.
Wakeupdog :
1. "I would change the voltage on the memory to manual."
Right now my DRAM Voltage is locked. I am still in the DOCP Standard Configuration. Is this why?
Also, i only have the 8Pin connected, not the 8Pin and 4Pin. Is this why my RAM voltage is locked?
When swapping from DOCP standard back to "Manual" my DRAM voltage still seems to be locked.
2. It should be running 1.35v. Might have to run it a little higher to get the rated speed to run. I wouldn't run over 1.4v for a daily clock, though.
I meant to say my DRAM voltage was at 1.35v, not 1.30v - So yes, it has always been running at 1.35v.
Again, i cannot change my DRAM voltage, because it is locked. I tried for 15 mins to find a way to unlock it.
3. External Digi+ Power Control section:
-VDDSOC Load Line Calibration lvl 2:
Done
-VDDSOC Current Capability 120%:
Done
-VDDSOC Phase Control to Extreme:
Done
- Same thing for the memory settings:
Done
- Set the memory boot voltage to 1.4 to start. I have mine set to boot at 1.44v.:
This setting is locked as well.
4. For now, leave the SOC voltage on auto. Pay attention to what it runs....it'll show up in HW Info. Should be around 1.1v to 1.2v.
Yes is is hovering around there
Attempt #1:
After changing the Extreme Digi+ Settings, I tried to boot with 3600MHz. It would not post
Attempt #2:
I lowered the DRAM Clock speed to 3466Mhz. It posted and is stable after 5 Cinebench's in a row. Then my PC crashed while gaming, not jsut the game, the whole PC. Error code "8" and DRAM LED blinking.
Attempt 3:
I lowered the DRAM Clock Speed even further, down to 3342 (or something like that, it was the next step down in the selection screen)
Stable so far.
Moving Forward:
Why is my voltages locked? Or am I an idiot and not realizing how to change the DRAM Voltage?
What else can i do to boot into 3600MHz?
1. Probably, yes. I'm not 100% sure, but that sounds reasonable to assume.
2. See #1
attempt 1...may need a little extra voltage there for 3600. The IMC tends to have problems at anything over 3400 without adding extra voltage.
Attempt 2....Yeah, not stable. Use TechPowerUP Memtest 64 to test your memory for stability. I usually go to at least 300% coverage.
Sounds like the biggest part of your problem now, is getting a PSU with the 4 pin....I have to think that's the issue with the locked memory voltage. Honestly, I'm surprised it runs at all without it.
I need to revisit my earlier comments. I previously made a mistake and didn't enter the Voltage field properly. Now I understand how to adjust it correctly.
Also, I reviewed the information about the 8-Pin/4-pin setup. The 4-pin is not required unless you're using LN Cooling at 1.6v+, as mentioned in the link.
Here’s what I learned:
- I can modify the DRAM voltage manually.
- The recommended setting is around 1.35v, but it might need a slight increase to reach the rated speed. I won’t exceed 1.4v for regular operation.
- I set the DRAM voltage to 1.4000v.
- The external Digi+ Power Control settings were all completed successfully.
- For memory booting, I set it to 1.4v and it started working.
- I left the SOC voltage on auto and monitored the readings in HW Info, which showed around 1.1v to 1.2v.
- My first attempt at booting at 3600MHz failed.
- I increased the DRAM voltage to 1.42000v and the boot voltage to 1.440000v, but encountered an error C9.
- I reduced the DRAM clock speed to 3466Mhz, which stabilized after several runs, though it caused a crash during gaming.
- I further lowered the clock speed to 3333MHz and it remained stable.
- Moving forward, I’m unsure what additional steps would help achieve a 3600MHz boot.
Wakeupdog: Alright, let's reset. I was making a mistake and didn't realize I had to actually type into the Voltage field to adjust it. Let's step back now since I can now change the voltage. Also, I've reviewed the 8-Pin/4-pin documentation. The 4-pin is optional and only needed for LN Cooling @1.6v+, according to this link: I learned that I could change the DRAM voltage to manual. 2. It should be running at 1.35v, though I might need to push it a bit higher to reach the rated speed. I wouldn't exceed 1.4v for daily operation. I set the DRAM voltage to 1.4000v. 3. External Digi+ Power Control section: -VDDSOC Load Line Calibration lvl 2: Completed -VDDSOC Current Capability 120%: Completed -VDDSOC Phase Control to Extreme: Completed Memory settings were also adjusted successfully. Set the memory boot voltage to 1.4 to start: DONE 4. For now, keep the SOC voltage on auto. Watch what it runs—this will appear in HW Info. It should be around 1.1v to 1.2v. It's hovering there. Attempt #1: After following all your suggestions, I tried booting at 3600MHz but it didn't work. Attempt #1.5: I increased the DRAM voltage to 1.42000v and raised the BOOT Voltage to 1.440000v. No success—error C9. Attempt #2: I reduced the DRAM clock speed to 3466Mhz. It booted up and stayed stable after five consecutive Cinebench runs. Then my PC crashed during a game, not just the game itself. Error code "8" appeared, and the DRAM LED blinked. Attempt 3: I further lowered the DRAM clock speed to 3333MHz. It's stable so far. Moving Forward: What else can I try to get a 3600MHz boot? You're moving beyond where I'm likely to help you well. Memory isn't my area of expertise. CPU... GPU, that's where I'm at. Memory? Not really... There are some excellent overclockers in this thread, though. I'd recommend letting them handle it from here. http://www.overclock.net/t/1628751/offic...ity-thread