F5F Stay Refreshed Hardware Desktop Running a modern CPU on an older one can be challenging but possible with the right settings and techniques.

Running a modern CPU on an older one can be challenging but possible with the right settings and techniques.

Running a modern CPU on an older one can be challenging but possible with the right settings and techniques.

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mcbudder2004
Senior Member
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07-04-2016, 12:17 AM
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Hello, your setup includes an Intel Core i7 930 from the first generation along with a NVIDIA P106-100 GPU for mining and a GT 170 for display. You’ve been using the P106-100 for ML tasks and 3D rendering without video output issues. After watching gaming content on it, you considered adding another GPU for better performance, but your older CPU limits that choice. You’re curious if running a Windows VM or an emulator targeting a newer Intel CPU is feasible. That’s understandable—your situation is valid.
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mcbudder2004
07-04-2016, 12:17 AM #1

Hello, your setup includes an Intel Core i7 930 from the first generation along with a NVIDIA P106-100 GPU for mining and a GT 170 for display. You’ve been using the P106-100 for ML tasks and 3D rendering without video output issues. After watching gaming content on it, you considered adding another GPU for better performance, but your older CPU limits that choice. You’re curious if running a Windows VM or an emulator targeting a newer Intel CPU is feasible. That’s understandable—your situation is valid.

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zuper_ah
Member
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07-15-2016, 05:00 PM
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Various designs exist and I believe it's unlikely (though I might be mistaken) Edited July 6, 2020 by TofuHaroto
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zuper_ah
07-15-2016, 05:00 PM #2

Various designs exist and I believe it's unlikely (though I might be mistaken) Edited July 6, 2020 by TofuHaroto

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dhazark
Junior Member
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07-15-2016, 08:20 PM
#3
I’d say yes. It’s a possibility, though it could be quite unusual. The issue is the 930 isn’t quick enough by modern expectations. Using emulation would slow things down even more. Emulation might work but it would be extremely sluggish. Are you aiming to sidestep specter meltdown fixes for CPUs before 3770k?
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dhazark
07-15-2016, 08:20 PM #3

I’d say yes. It’s a possibility, though it could be quite unusual. The issue is the 930 isn’t quick enough by modern expectations. Using emulation would slow things down even more. Emulation might work but it would be extremely sluggish. Are you aiming to sidestep specter meltdown fixes for CPUs before 3770k?

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pokesegachao
Member
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07-24-2016, 04:31 AM
#4
I think what you’re referring to is that it’s not just the model being old. The key point is the absence of built-in graphics. These mining hacks rely on methods similar to those used in laptops with hidden GPUs. In a laptop, the main screen connects to the integrated graphics unit for use in the desktop setup. When gaming and you enable the graphics chip, you can’t directly link the laptop’s display to the discrete card. Instead, the software routes the graphics output through the PCI bus to the integrated GPU for rendering. This technique was originally called "Optimus." Someone modified the desktop driver code to replicate this behavior with a mining card and an integrated GPU on an i5 processor. In short, it changes how the NVIDIA drivers operate, making them function like a laptop setup. Without Intel’s built-in graphics, this approach simply won’t work because the existing drivers aren’t built for it.
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pokesegachao
07-24-2016, 04:31 AM #4

I think what you’re referring to is that it’s not just the model being old. The key point is the absence of built-in graphics. These mining hacks rely on methods similar to those used in laptops with hidden GPUs. In a laptop, the main screen connects to the integrated graphics unit for use in the desktop setup. When gaming and you enable the graphics chip, you can’t directly link the laptop’s display to the discrete card. Instead, the software routes the graphics output through the PCI bus to the integrated GPU for rendering. This technique was originally called "Optimus." Someone modified the desktop driver code to replicate this behavior with a mining card and an integrated GPU on an i5 processor. In short, it changes how the NVIDIA drivers operate, making them function like a laptop setup. Without Intel’s built-in graphics, this approach simply won’t work because the existing drivers aren’t built for it.

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XxGrenidierXx
Posting Freak
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07-24-2016, 04:30 PM
#5
It's the integrated graphics card that needs to be simulated. That's going to cause major issues.
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XxGrenidierXx
07-24-2016, 04:30 PM #5

It's the integrated graphics card that needs to be simulated. That's going to cause major issues.

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KittyGirl62006
Junior Member
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07-24-2016, 04:49 PM
#6
Sure, feel free to ask! Emulating an iGPU is feasible, though it may be slower. You can explore software options designed for this purpose. The video you mentioned might offer some insight—let me know if it helps clarify things for you. Thanks!
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KittyGirl62006
07-24-2016, 04:49 PM #6

Sure, feel free to ask! Emulating an iGPU is feasible, though it may be slower. You can explore software options designed for this purpose. The video you mentioned might offer some insight—let me know if it helps clarify things for you. Thanks!

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DeadVisual
Member
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08-01-2016, 12:07 AM
#7
Yes, you should still use an iGPU if the method demonstrated in the video applies to it.
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DeadVisual
08-01-2016, 12:07 AM #7

Yes, you should still use an iGPU if the method demonstrated in the video applies to it.

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Demonsss91
Posting Freak
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08-01-2016, 10:59 PM
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Yes, you can leverage VT-d to virtualize the CPU by assigning it to specific virtual machines or containers, allowing better resource management and isolation.
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Demonsss91
08-01-2016, 10:59 PM #8

Yes, you can leverage VT-d to virtualize the CPU by assigning it to specific virtual machines or containers, allowing better resource management and isolation.

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JaumzinhoS2
Junior Member
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08-17-2016, 06:24 AM
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You can't simply modify the driver installer to make it believe it's running as a 1060, since the P106 lacks a monitor connection. The Optimus hack is necessary to move its framebuffer to the correct card connected to the display. For this to function smoothly and efficiently, the driver would need to be altered so that any primary GPU can participate, not just the Intel version. The likelihood of achieving this is extremely low. Activating an existing feature in a GPU driver is far less complex than changing its core functionality.
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JaumzinhoS2
08-17-2016, 06:24 AM #9

You can't simply modify the driver installer to make it believe it's running as a 1060, since the P106 lacks a monitor connection. The Optimus hack is necessary to move its framebuffer to the correct card connected to the display. For this to function smoothly and efficiently, the driver would need to be altered so that any primary GPU can participate, not just the Intel version. The likelihood of achieving this is extremely low. Activating an existing feature in a GPU driver is far less complex than changing its core functionality.