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Report of poor gaming results with AMD Ryzen 7800X3D and ASUS RTX 3070

Report of poor gaming results with AMD Ryzen 7800X3D and ASUS RTX 3070

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11-13-2023, 07:37 AM
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Hey everyone,

I've been facing some performance problems lately with my new build. I'm trying to play games like CS2 and aiming for around 150-200fps, but it's not quite there. A screenshot shows what I'm seeing. Most people get much higher frame rates. Check this video for a comparison -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1J8KDIbOPY
Here are my specs:
Motherboard: MSI MPG B650I EDGE
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D
CPU Cooler: ThermalRight AXP90-X53 Black
GPU: Nvidia GTX 3070 (ASUS DUAL-OC 8GB GDDR6)
RAM: G.Skill DDR5 Ripjaws S5 32GB (6000mhz)
Power Supply: Corsair SF750 Platinum (750W)
SSD 1: 500GB Samsung 970 Evo Plus M.2 SSD
SSD 2: 500GB Samsung 850 Evo SSD
Case: Fractal Design Terra
AMD EXPO - Enabled
All other BIOS settings are at default.

I've tried everything I could think of, even swapping the RAM kit with a similar one, but the issue remains. I'm starting to think there might be a problem with my CPU or motherboard (though I hope that's not the case). Any suggestions on what could be causing this poor performance?

Thanks,
Danny
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Xx_Elite102_xX
11-13-2023, 07:37 AM #1

Hey everyone,

I've been facing some performance problems lately with my new build. I'm trying to play games like CS2 and aiming for around 150-200fps, but it's not quite there. A screenshot shows what I'm seeing. Most people get much higher frame rates. Check this video for a comparison -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1J8KDIbOPY
Here are my specs:
Motherboard: MSI MPG B650I EDGE
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D
CPU Cooler: ThermalRight AXP90-X53 Black
GPU: Nvidia GTX 3070 (ASUS DUAL-OC 8GB GDDR6)
RAM: G.Skill DDR5 Ripjaws S5 32GB (6000mhz)
Power Supply: Corsair SF750 Platinum (750W)
SSD 1: 500GB Samsung 970 Evo Plus M.2 SSD
SSD 2: 500GB Samsung 850 Evo SSD
Case: Fractal Design Terra
AMD EXPO - Enabled
All other BIOS settings are at default.

I've tried everything I could think of, even swapping the RAM kit with a similar one, but the issue remains. I'm starting to think there might be a problem with my CPU or motherboard (though I hope that's not the case). Any suggestions on what could be causing this poor performance?

Thanks,
Danny

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RonniMolo4ko_
Member
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11-14-2023, 12:56 AM
#2
Initially, question the authenticity of those videos. Next, consider conducting any necessary tests to thoroughly evaluate your setup.
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RonniMolo4ko_
11-14-2023, 12:56 AM #2

Initially, question the authenticity of those videos. Next, consider conducting any necessary tests to thoroughly evaluate your setup.

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SrSniper28
Member
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11-14-2023, 01:49 AM
#3
Thanks for your quick response.
It's not just those videos I'm using for comparison. My friend has a similar setup and achieves around 400fps in CS2 while streaming.
Yes, I've tested Furmark on my GPU and there were no problems (as expected since this GPU has never had any issues even on an older system).
Cinebench R32 shows my CPU reached 89c, though higher temperatures are anticipated when running such a program (score 17500).
I won't test the RAM, as this issue appears across multiple systems.
I'm considering a motherboard problem. Sometimes performance improves slightly after rebooting.
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SrSniper28
11-14-2023, 01:49 AM #3

Thanks for your quick response.
It's not just those videos I'm using for comparison. My friend has a similar setup and achieves around 400fps in CS2 while streaming.
Yes, I've tested Furmark on my GPU and there were no problems (as expected since this GPU has never had any issues even on an older system).
Cinebench R32 shows my CPU reached 89c, though higher temperatures are anticipated when running such a program (score 17500).
I won't test the RAM, as this issue appears across multiple systems.
I'm considering a motherboard problem. Sometimes performance improves slightly after rebooting.

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lTalonzl
Member
147
11-21-2023, 12:23 AM
#4
Many aspects need evaluation when assessing two systems that are alike yet different. This is why performance guides focus on hardware, software, and configurations as reference points. To achieve the most accurate comparison. A single game setting change can significantly affect results.
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lTalonzl
11-21-2023, 12:23 AM #4

Many aspects need evaluation when assessing two systems that are alike yet different. This is why performance guides focus on hardware, software, and configurations as reference points. To achieve the most accurate comparison. A single game setting change can significantly affect results.

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holototy
Member
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11-21-2023, 09:12 PM
#5
I keep the idle temperature around 45 - 55°C for the CPU and 35 - 40°C for the GPU. The loaded CPU sits between 65 - 80 and the GPU between 45c - 55c. All chipset and graphics drivers are current, even after using the Display Driver Uninstaller to remove and reinstall them. I haven't done any overclocking. I switched EXPO on and off, and the performance change was negligible, leading me to suspect another factor. I also enabled PBO and adjusted the Curve Optimizer to Negative 30. No crashes occurred, and tests remained stable. Performance improved only slightly.
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holototy
11-21-2023, 09:12 PM #5

I keep the idle temperature around 45 - 55°C for the CPU and 35 - 40°C for the GPU. The loaded CPU sits between 65 - 80 and the GPU between 45c - 55c. All chipset and graphics drivers are current, even after using the Display Driver Uninstaller to remove and reinstall them. I haven't done any overclocking. I switched EXPO on and off, and the performance change was negligible, leading me to suspect another factor. I also enabled PBO and adjusted the Curve Optimizer to Negative 30. No crashes occurred, and tests remained stable. Performance improved only slightly.

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HitTheKodak
Member
201
11-28-2023, 08:47 AM
#6
It looks like your GPU isn't activating properly even though it's heating up. Try running a benchmark tool such as Superposition to challenge it. Observe its performance and check the 4k test profile.
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HitTheKodak
11-28-2023, 08:47 AM #6

It looks like your GPU isn't activating properly even though it's heating up. Try running a benchmark tool such as Superposition to challenge it. Observe its performance and check the 4k test profile.

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Rucian
Member
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11-28-2023, 09:44 AM
#7
Another point that hasn't been mentioned is your monitor. What is its resolution? And are you certain it matches your friends'? If their monitor is 1080p and yours is 1440p, this will significantly affect the frame rates. Also, if I were fixing this problem, my first step would be checking the GPU. Do you have GPU-Z installed? If not, install it. Open it in the background and choose the Sensors tab. In the drop-down menus for each sensor, pick "Show Highest Reading". Play for a while then scroll down to PerfCap Reason. It will reveal what is restricting the card. Hover over the Perfcap word to see details for each code. Also, check your CPU and GPU temperatures, as well as GPU load.
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Rucian
11-28-2023, 09:44 AM #7

Another point that hasn't been mentioned is your monitor. What is its resolution? And are you certain it matches your friends'? If their monitor is 1080p and yours is 1440p, this will significantly affect the frame rates. Also, if I were fixing this problem, my first step would be checking the GPU. Do you have GPU-Z installed? If not, install it. Open it in the background and choose the Sensors tab. In the drop-down menus for each sensor, pick "Show Highest Reading". Play for a while then scroll down to PerfCap Reason. It will reveal what is restricting the card. Hover over the Perfcap word to see details for each code. Also, check your CPU and GPU temperatures, as well as GPU load.

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zeliotL
Member
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11-28-2023, 06:37 PM
#8
Hey, I’m using a 1080p monitor with the same specs and settings as before. Although resolution changes can affect performance, it shouldn’t be this extreme. Noticing that my RTX 3070 is running at around 90% usage during CS2 while drawing only 130W seems unusual. Could this be the cause of the lower-than-expected performance?
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zeliotL
11-28-2023, 06:37 PM #8

Hey, I’m using a 1080p monitor with the same specs and settings as before. Although resolution changes can affect performance, it shouldn’t be this extreme. Noticing that my RTX 3070 is running at around 90% usage during CS2 while drawing only 130W seems unusual. Could this be the cause of the lower-than-expected performance?

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CatNinjaXD
Member
208
12-14-2023, 05:32 AM
#9
So I think I've identified the problem.
After restarting my PC, I noticed it sometimes ran at 350 - 400 fps (still a good improvement but not optimal).
The main change is the "Power Draw," which has risen to 170W.
Perfcap displays "VRel," indicating unstable voltage is likely the cause.
I invested a lot in my power supply, which most people suggest is reliable for SFF systems.
Right now I'm using one PCI-E cable from the PSU to my GPU with 2x6+2 pin headers. Online users often recommend using two separate 6+2 pin PCI-E cables. Could this be the fix I need?
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CatNinjaXD
12-14-2023, 05:32 AM #9

So I think I've identified the problem.
After restarting my PC, I noticed it sometimes ran at 350 - 400 fps (still a good improvement but not optimal).
The main change is the "Power Draw," which has risen to 170W.
Perfcap displays "VRel," indicating unstable voltage is likely the cause.
I invested a lot in my power supply, which most people suggest is reliable for SFF systems.
Right now I'm using one PCI-E cable from the PSU to my GPU with 2x6+2 pin headers. Online users often recommend using two separate 6+2 pin PCI-E cables. Could this be the fix I need?

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ofeliant
Member
174
12-16-2023, 04:37 AM
#10
That's clearly a low reading of 90%. It would also clarify your temperatures during gaming—they should be higher than what you mentioned. Are you certain both 8-pin power connectors are properly seated on both sides? Are you using them correctly? 😉
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ofeliant
12-16-2023, 04:37 AM #10

That's clearly a low reading of 90%. It would also clarify your temperatures during gaming—they should be higher than what you mentioned. Are you certain both 8-pin power connectors are properly seated on both sides? Are you using them correctly? 😉

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