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RAM compatible with AMD processors

RAM compatible with AMD processors

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seaturtle1985
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08-25-2016, 05:18 AM
#1
I noticed this RAM advertised as an AMD edition on Newegg. I’m trying to understand what that means. Checking its details, it seems like it’s a marketing term rather than a technical difference. Comparing it to other models doesn’t really highlight any real distinction, which leaves me puzzled about the labeling. For XMP memory profiles, you can indeed push RAM speeds up to around 4733MHz on supported chips. Are there specific modules built to hit that exact frequency, or is it more about general performance? For your upcoming Ryzen build, you might want to focus on timing rather than raw speed, but I’m still unsure how to pick the right RAM.
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seaturtle1985
08-25-2016, 05:18 AM #1

I noticed this RAM advertised as an AMD edition on Newegg. I’m trying to understand what that means. Checking its details, it seems like it’s a marketing term rather than a technical difference. Comparing it to other models doesn’t really highlight any real distinction, which leaves me puzzled about the labeling. For XMP memory profiles, you can indeed push RAM speeds up to around 4733MHz on supported chips. Are there specific modules built to hit that exact frequency, or is it more about general performance? For your upcoming Ryzen build, you might want to focus on timing rather than raw speed, but I’m still unsure how to pick the right RAM.

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nameehasan
Member
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08-27-2016, 05:35 AM
#2
It's essentially a marketing tactic. When AM4 was introduced, there were some memory boards that didn't function properly, but modern kits from the past few years are compatible with AMD systems. The setup can be a bit tricky. Achieving peak performance on Ryzen 3000/5000 is manageable, though high-speed options tend to lag behind lower-clocked models. These chips offer two memory modes—synchronized and desynchronized. Synchronized mode provides better latency, while desynchronized offers faster data rates. For optimal results, stick with synchronized mode; most boards automatically switch between them at 3600MT/s. Generally, CPUs can reach speeds around 3800 when set to synchronized, but if you prefer simplicity, a 3600 kit is sufficient.
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nameehasan
08-27-2016, 05:35 AM #2

It's essentially a marketing tactic. When AM4 was introduced, there were some memory boards that didn't function properly, but modern kits from the past few years are compatible with AMD systems. The setup can be a bit tricky. Achieving peak performance on Ryzen 3000/5000 is manageable, though high-speed options tend to lag behind lower-clocked models. These chips offer two memory modes—synchronized and desynchronized. Synchronized mode provides better latency, while desynchronized offers faster data rates. For optimal results, stick with synchronized mode; most boards automatically switch between them at 3600MT/s. Generally, CPUs can reach speeds around 3800 when set to synchronized, but if you prefer simplicity, a 3600 kit is sufficient.

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Kiomek
Member
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08-27-2016, 06:13 AM
#3
Back then, in the era of DDR2, there existed specialized RAM designed for AMD systems. Any type of RAM could function with AMD, but not all would work with Intel boards. Those times are far behind.
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Kiomek
08-27-2016, 06:13 AM #3

Back then, in the era of DDR2, there existed specialized RAM designed for AMD systems. Any type of RAM could function with AMD, but not all would work with Intel boards. Those times are far behind.

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ignapro150
Junior Member
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08-30-2016, 06:50 AM
#4
Sure, I’ll take a 3600 kit and experiment with timing and frequency later.
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ignapro150
08-30-2016, 06:50 AM #4

Sure, I’ll take a 3600 kit and experiment with timing and frequency later.

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PixelpigLeo06
Member
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08-31-2016, 09:58 PM
#5
I believe it's possible to push through this, but you'd need to exceed 5000 clock speed to notice significant improvement. Compared to a 3800-4000 kit, a 5000+ unit is likely to cause trouble. However, only a handful of ICs can reach those speeds, like the Hynix DJR. You'll also face challenges such as temperature sensitivity, which makes ICs unstable at high frequencies. Voltage scaling limits vary by IC and IMC, often requiring operation above 1.7V, which intensifies heat issues. Because overheating can lead to crashes, especially with fluctuating room temperatures, stability becomes an issue.

Additionally, there are size restrictions—typically 16 or 32GB in single-rank configurations. Choosing between Hynix DJR and Micron Rev B offers many trade-offs. Running high-frequency DDR4 and RAM is generally problematic, and dual-rank options with 8GB sticks are limited.

If you're aiming for top performance, consider older 2133BUS sticks like the Hynix 4Gbit AFR or Samsung 4Gbit E-DIE. These work well around 4000 MHz and help avoid many headaches. Running at ~3800 MHz is manageable without excessive strain.

For Ryzen processors, avoiding T-REXi settings can improve stability. The main hurdles are the IC limitations, thermal constraints, and compatibility concerns. If you're serious about pushing RAM speeds, it's best to stick with proven options or invest in higher-end components that support stable overclocking.

It’s also worth noting that dual-rank configurations offer more flexibility, though they come with their own set of challenges. Overall, the path to high-speed performance is fraught with technical obstacles and trade-offs.
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PixelpigLeo06
08-31-2016, 09:58 PM #5

I believe it's possible to push through this, but you'd need to exceed 5000 clock speed to notice significant improvement. Compared to a 3800-4000 kit, a 5000+ unit is likely to cause trouble. However, only a handful of ICs can reach those speeds, like the Hynix DJR. You'll also face challenges such as temperature sensitivity, which makes ICs unstable at high frequencies. Voltage scaling limits vary by IC and IMC, often requiring operation above 1.7V, which intensifies heat issues. Because overheating can lead to crashes, especially with fluctuating room temperatures, stability becomes an issue.

Additionally, there are size restrictions—typically 16 or 32GB in single-rank configurations. Choosing between Hynix DJR and Micron Rev B offers many trade-offs. Running high-frequency DDR4 and RAM is generally problematic, and dual-rank options with 8GB sticks are limited.

If you're aiming for top performance, consider older 2133BUS sticks like the Hynix 4Gbit AFR or Samsung 4Gbit E-DIE. These work well around 4000 MHz and help avoid many headaches. Running at ~3800 MHz is manageable without excessive strain.

For Ryzen processors, avoiding T-REXi settings can improve stability. The main hurdles are the IC limitations, thermal constraints, and compatibility concerns. If you're serious about pushing RAM speeds, it's best to stick with proven options or invest in higher-end components that support stable overclocking.

It’s also worth noting that dual-rank configurations offer more flexibility, though they come with their own set of challenges. Overall, the path to high-speed performance is fraught with technical obstacles and trade-offs.

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09-02-2016, 03:11 AM
#6
They prefer a straightforward approach over detailed setup. Most users just aim for XMP support without getting bogged down in the process.
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Alice_two_Berg
09-02-2016, 03:11 AM #6

They prefer a straightforward approach over detailed setup. Most users just aim for XMP support without getting bogged down in the process.

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DiamndQueen
Member
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09-07-2016, 03:27 AM
#7
This was really helpful, thanks. I don’t need more than 32GB since I’m skipping NASA-level work and just want solid performance for my money. I’m focused on getting the best value within my budget.
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DiamndQueen
09-07-2016, 03:27 AM #7

This was really helpful, thanks. I don’t need more than 32GB since I’m skipping NASA-level work and just want solid performance for my money. I’m focused on getting the best value within my budget.

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GamerzPranks
Junior Member
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09-08-2016, 07:30 PM
#8
It depends on the board type—whether it's a new build or an upgrade. In my area, I see these options available at lower prices because they're widely used and local shops are accessible. You can purchase used rams from shops or check platforms like Facebook Marketplace for sellers offering them. Buying used parts usually helps you save money, but you’ll mainly use them to customize and boost performance beyond what a standard kit provides. For components like GPUs and power supplies, buying used can cut costs significantly, especially on platforms such as AM4 or 3600(x) where you can find good deals on boards and CPUs.
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GamerzPranks
09-08-2016, 07:30 PM #8

It depends on the board type—whether it's a new build or an upgrade. In my area, I see these options available at lower prices because they're widely used and local shops are accessible. You can purchase used rams from shops or check platforms like Facebook Marketplace for sellers offering them. Buying used parts usually helps you save money, but you’ll mainly use them to customize and boost performance beyond what a standard kit provides. For components like GPUs and power supplies, buying used can cut costs significantly, especially on platforms such as AM4 or 3600(x) where you can find good deals on boards and CPUs.