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RAM and SSD costs can fluctuate, so it's wise to monitor trends before deciding to purchase.

RAM and SSD costs can fluctuate, so it's wise to monitor trends before deciding to purchase.

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RocFab610
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08-25-2016, 09:12 AM
#11
It's not about whether it will fall but how quickly. By now, it should stabilize significantly unless major changes occur. Even if AI faces issues, the timeline remains uncertain.
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RocFab610
08-25-2016, 09:12 AM #11

It's not about whether it will fall but how quickly. By now, it should stabilize significantly unless major changes occur. Even if AI faces issues, the timeline remains uncertain.

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DezzTrezzLP
Junior Member
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09-06-2016, 01:05 PM
#12
They can maintain high prices without any restrictions. Remember when a previous shortage led them to increase GPU costs permanently? That happened nearly a decade ago, and the rates stayed elevated.
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DezzTrezzLP
09-06-2016, 01:05 PM #12

They can maintain high prices without any restrictions. Remember when a previous shortage led them to increase GPU costs permanently? That happened nearly a decade ago, and the rates stayed elevated.

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zane5824
Junior Member
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09-06-2016, 03:06 PM
#13
I think the computer only has NVME slots, three of them, but it has a similar looking SATA drive in one of them. Gen 3 I think.
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zane5824
09-06-2016, 03:06 PM #13

I think the computer only has NVME slots, three of them, but it has a similar looking SATA drive in one of them. Gen 3 I think.

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MrKiwiism
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09-07-2016, 10:57 PM
#14
This situation won't occur. The idea of "never" isn't realistic in real life. Eventually, devices will store 1TB of memory. Storage capacity matters for businesses, and it could hinder small enterprises. AI might lower costs per gigabyte when it becomes available. Production will rise, new factories will be built, density will jump, but demand might drop afterward. Even if future prices are high—say $500 for two sticks of RAM—it would still be cheaper per GB compared to older models with similar profits. We should acknowledge that AI won't suddenly appear overnight. Eventually, companies will follow the usual business cycle, upgrading roughly every four years. Otherwise, they risk wasting resources. Today, spending $100 billion could boost performance tenfold. But if it only gives 10%, they'll be more strategic in their investments. New tech already exists—Google has a functional quantum processor. Right now, RAM feels like a basic commodity, not a premium feature.
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MrKiwiism
09-07-2016, 10:57 PM #14

This situation won't occur. The idea of "never" isn't realistic in real life. Eventually, devices will store 1TB of memory. Storage capacity matters for businesses, and it could hinder small enterprises. AI might lower costs per gigabyte when it becomes available. Production will rise, new factories will be built, density will jump, but demand might drop afterward. Even if future prices are high—say $500 for two sticks of RAM—it would still be cheaper per GB compared to older models with similar profits. We should acknowledge that AI won't suddenly appear overnight. Eventually, companies will follow the usual business cycle, upgrading roughly every four years. Otherwise, they risk wasting resources. Today, spending $100 billion could boost performance tenfold. But if it only gives 10%, they'll be more strategic in their investments. New tech already exists—Google has a functional quantum processor. Right now, RAM feels like a basic commodity, not a premium feature.

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BeBo18
Junior Member
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09-08-2016, 12:17 AM
#15
Lol... We're facing major limitations on how compact our chips can get. Moore's law isn't endless, and it's actually been outdated for a while. You'll never find a watch with 1TB of RAM that doesn't feel bulky. And definitely not anymore. My take is that the cost savings won't reach the end user. If they start making RAM cheaper, they won't inform us and keep all the profit for themselves... just like they did with GPUs before. You're overlooking the fact that this kind of shortage has happened before. It's more about their profits than ours. You're totally chasing hype here. Google only cleared one benchmark that checks just a tiny part of quantum computing out of many. This is just one piece of the puzzle for a real quantum processor. Alone, it's not useful. They don't even have a functional production quantum computer yet—many still doubt if it's possible at all. My point applies to any product or service from big companies. RAM, GPUs, cables, milk, cereal, clothes, honey—they don't need to be the same for this argument to work. The lesson is clear: when manufacturing costs drop, prices usually stay high, and profits go up instead of benefiting customers.
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BeBo18
09-08-2016, 12:17 AM #15

Lol... We're facing major limitations on how compact our chips can get. Moore's law isn't endless, and it's actually been outdated for a while. You'll never find a watch with 1TB of RAM that doesn't feel bulky. And definitely not anymore. My take is that the cost savings won't reach the end user. If they start making RAM cheaper, they won't inform us and keep all the profit for themselves... just like they did with GPUs before. You're overlooking the fact that this kind of shortage has happened before. It's more about their profits than ours. You're totally chasing hype here. Google only cleared one benchmark that checks just a tiny part of quantum computing out of many. This is just one piece of the puzzle for a real quantum processor. Alone, it's not useful. They don't even have a functional production quantum computer yet—many still doubt if it's possible at all. My point applies to any product or service from big companies. RAM, GPUs, cables, milk, cereal, clothes, honey—they don't need to be the same for this argument to work. The lesson is clear: when manufacturing costs drop, prices usually stay high, and profits go up instead of benefiting customers.

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Tjeard_
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09-08-2016, 05:54 AM
#16
Yes, definitely. Eventually, likely at some stage. We just can't predict the exact timing. If anyone knew, they'd probably keep it secret since such details command huge value. With the right investors and accurate insight, it might be worth a substantial sum.
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Tjeard_
09-08-2016, 05:54 AM #16

Yes, definitely. Eventually, likely at some stage. We just can't predict the exact timing. If anyone knew, they'd probably keep it secret since such details command huge value. With the right investors and accurate insight, it might be worth a substantial sum.

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Nero12321
Posting Freak
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09-09-2016, 08:46 AM
#17
Can I borrow your crystal ball? RAM is nowhere near its limits it is WAY behind CPU/GPU processes. It is mostly produced on 10-12nm nodes. There has been no incentive to make it better because it's been cheap to produce with relatively low demand. There has also been no reason to innovate. But AI may make an incentive for both of these things. 100% demand for AI will not go on "forever" and they will have to sell all that production to someone. Again, even if humanity is wiped out "never" is statistically unlikely.
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Nero12321
09-09-2016, 08:46 AM #17

Can I borrow your crystal ball? RAM is nowhere near its limits it is WAY behind CPU/GPU processes. It is mostly produced on 10-12nm nodes. There has been no incentive to make it better because it's been cheap to produce with relatively low demand. There has also been no reason to innovate. But AI may make an incentive for both of these things. 100% demand for AI will not go on "forever" and they will have to sell all that production to someone. Again, even if humanity is wiped out "never" is statistically unlikely.

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domm0nkey
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09-09-2016, 04:33 PM
#18
Meaning is unclear. I believe it’s not understood by anyone. What you’re referring to involves memory and hardware costs that aren’t well defined.
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domm0nkey
09-09-2016, 04:33 PM #18

Meaning is unclear. I believe it’s not understood by anyone. What you’re referring to involves memory and hardware costs that aren’t well defined.

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DestroN42
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09-12-2016, 12:44 PM
#19
They only manage to fit a small amount of RAM into watches currently, let alone thousands. Discussing sub-1nm technology to cram everything inside a watch is an unrealistic expectation. If you're correct, that's impressive. However, I don't believe it will ever be possible. This isn't just a minor challenge—it's rooted in real physical constraints we haven't fully solved yet. We've been working on this for over a decade, and only recently did Samsung claim progress, though we haven't confirmed it yet. The industry has invested heavily in DRAM improvements, but it's far more complex than it looks. Reaching 5nm might be out of reach, and sub-1nm remains a distant goal. It feels almost guaranteed by data trends. Prices tend to rise more than they drop, and such a shift is highly improbable. Milk won't suddenly drop to 25 cents again—though that might sound oddly likely.
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DestroN42
09-12-2016, 12:44 PM #19

They only manage to fit a small amount of RAM into watches currently, let alone thousands. Discussing sub-1nm technology to cram everything inside a watch is an unrealistic expectation. If you're correct, that's impressive. However, I don't believe it will ever be possible. This isn't just a minor challenge—it's rooted in real physical constraints we haven't fully solved yet. We've been working on this for over a decade, and only recently did Samsung claim progress, though we haven't confirmed it yet. The industry has invested heavily in DRAM improvements, but it's far more complex than it looks. Reaching 5nm might be out of reach, and sub-1nm remains a distant goal. It feels almost guaranteed by data trends. Prices tend to rise more than they drop, and such a shift is highly improbable. Milk won't suddenly drop to 25 cents again—though that might sound oddly likely.

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npalmen
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09-14-2016, 08:49 AM
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npalmen
09-14-2016, 08:49 AM #20

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