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DanielEmpire
Posting Freak
781
02-19-2016, 07:49 PM
#1
Hello,
I read this "Single-channel RAM is about 15% slower than dual-channel RAM. Dual-channel RAM works in pairs. Dual-channel RAM cannot be mixed with single-channel RAM. All motherboards support single-channel RAM, but not all motherboards support dual-channel RAM." source
https://history-computer.com/single-vs-d...annel-ram/
Q1. If I want 32GB total ram, is A or B or C fastest/slowest/no difference? (motherboard is Asus B550M-A Prime Wi-Fi & Bluetooth (DDR4))
A. 1 stick of 32GB ram
B. 2 sticks of 16GB ram
C. 4 sticks of 8GB ram
Q2. Lexar RGB Ares 32 GB 3600MHz vs Corsair RGB Vengeance Pro SL 32 GB 3600MHz, which one is better? Is Corsair worth the more expensive price?
Q3. Is fan cooler quieter or AIO liquid cooler quieter? Is the AIO liquid cooler fan noisy? Which one do you like?
Q4. For the silverstone case below, it does not come with any internal fan, can I skip adding internal fan?
Q5. For the silverstone case below, if I want to add 2 fans, is it Front = intake, Side = output? If I just want to add 1 fan, should it be front or side and should the only 1 fan be intake or output? (might not have space to add 2 fans)
Silverstone case
"Cooling system
Front
80mm x 1*
Side
80mm x 1** / 60mm x 1***
Remark
* If the connectors on the motherboard is facing forward, then the thickness supported for the fan is 27.2mm, minus the length of the SATA cable connector and minus the size of the motherboard. i.e. if the direction of the connectors on the motherboard is upward, then the front fan supports fans with thickness of up to 25mm.
** Supports motherboard size of 248mm minus the fan’s total thickness
*** Corresponds to motherboard’s connector design, which allows a total height of 23mm, while leaving the 4th PCI slot unoccupied."
https://www.silverstonetek.com/en/produc...is/MILO11/
https://www.amazon.com/SilverStone-Techn...B0B7ZZFL7Y
Thanks
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DanielEmpire
02-19-2016, 07:49 PM #1

Hello,
I read this "Single-channel RAM is about 15% slower than dual-channel RAM. Dual-channel RAM works in pairs. Dual-channel RAM cannot be mixed with single-channel RAM. All motherboards support single-channel RAM, but not all motherboards support dual-channel RAM." source
https://history-computer.com/single-vs-d...annel-ram/
Q1. If I want 32GB total ram, is A or B or C fastest/slowest/no difference? (motherboard is Asus B550M-A Prime Wi-Fi & Bluetooth (DDR4))
A. 1 stick of 32GB ram
B. 2 sticks of 16GB ram
C. 4 sticks of 8GB ram
Q2. Lexar RGB Ares 32 GB 3600MHz vs Corsair RGB Vengeance Pro SL 32 GB 3600MHz, which one is better? Is Corsair worth the more expensive price?
Q3. Is fan cooler quieter or AIO liquid cooler quieter? Is the AIO liquid cooler fan noisy? Which one do you like?
Q4. For the silverstone case below, it does not come with any internal fan, can I skip adding internal fan?
Q5. For the silverstone case below, if I want to add 2 fans, is it Front = intake, Side = output? If I just want to add 1 fan, should it be front or side and should the only 1 fan be intake or output? (might not have space to add 2 fans)
Silverstone case
"Cooling system
Front
80mm x 1*
Side
80mm x 1** / 60mm x 1***
Remark
* If the connectors on the motherboard is facing forward, then the thickness supported for the fan is 27.2mm, minus the length of the SATA cable connector and minus the size of the motherboard. i.e. if the direction of the connectors on the motherboard is upward, then the front fan supports fans with thickness of up to 25mm.
** Supports motherboard size of 248mm minus the fan’s total thickness
*** Corresponds to motherboard’s connector design, which allows a total height of 23mm, while leaving the 4th PCI slot unoccupied."
https://www.silverstonetek.com/en/produc...is/MILO11/
https://www.amazon.com/SilverStone-Techn...B0B7ZZFL7Y
Thanks

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COLIN20052012
Posting Freak
857
02-21-2016, 07:09 PM
#2
A person would gain from option C if their motherboard supports quad channel memory. If it doesn't, then using 2x16GB is essentially the same as 4x8GB (unless exceptions apply). The difference isn't significant. Lexar one is more affordable though. That's all I can say at the moment.
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COLIN20052012
02-21-2016, 07:09 PM #2

A person would gain from option C if their motherboard supports quad channel memory. If it doesn't, then using 2x16GB is essentially the same as 4x8GB (unless exceptions apply). The difference isn't significant. Lexar one is more affordable though. That's all I can say at the moment.

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KryFTW
Junior Member
37
02-21-2016, 11:46 PM
#3
2x16GB works best with Ryzen.
Corsair should be avoided unless it's listed on the QVL with the precise part and version details.
The choice of air cooler or AIO depends on the CPU. I don't think you should install a high-end system in a case with poor airflow like the Silverstone ML11. I'm not aware of an AIO that fits the Silverstone case at all—it's too small.
For the Silverstone case, simply add two fans, such as the Arctic F8 PWM.
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KryFTW
02-21-2016, 11:46 PM #3

2x16GB works best with Ryzen.
Corsair should be avoided unless it's listed on the QVL with the precise part and version details.
The choice of air cooler or AIO depends on the CPU. I don't think you should install a high-end system in a case with poor airflow like the Silverstone ML11. I'm not aware of an AIO that fits the Silverstone case at all—it's too small.
For the Silverstone case, simply add two fans, such as the Arctic F8 PWM.

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siggurpiggur
Junior Member
43
02-22-2016, 04:34 AM
#4
Context counts; most answers you have read are incorrect, confusing, or lacking completeness.
Ram is not single or dual channel RAM.
When two matching RAM sticks are placed in different channels on a motherboard, it will function in dual channel mode and achieve the advertised speeds.
Q1) B is the best choice.
C could be the optimal option on a server motherboard supporting quad channel.
A will operate but will be slower.
Does this matter?
Yes, since your processor is a Ryzen, fast RAM is crucial for performance.
This is less significant for Intel, except when using integrated graphics where RAM speed matters.
Consider the details and context.
Q2) Any price variation likely stems from latency requirements. At matching speeds, lower latency is preferable.
Q3) Most AIO coolers require higher fan speeds to push air through the radiator, making them noisier.
I’d prefer an AIO over an air cooler unless air cooling suffices.
Typically, a 360 AIO or better performs better than a decent air cooler.
Also, AIO coolers usually have a lifespan of about five years.
Q4) Yes, but the outcome depends on your processor and graphics setup.
A fan or two will help remove heat from the case more quickly.
Context again… what are you planning to install and why?
Q5) In theory, intake and exhaust should perform similarly.
Try one method, switch if necessary.
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siggurpiggur
02-22-2016, 04:34 AM #4

Context counts; most answers you have read are incorrect, confusing, or lacking completeness.
Ram is not single or dual channel RAM.
When two matching RAM sticks are placed in different channels on a motherboard, it will function in dual channel mode and achieve the advertised speeds.
Q1) B is the best choice.
C could be the optimal option on a server motherboard supporting quad channel.
A will operate but will be slower.
Does this matter?
Yes, since your processor is a Ryzen, fast RAM is crucial for performance.
This is less significant for Intel, except when using integrated graphics where RAM speed matters.
Consider the details and context.
Q2) Any price variation likely stems from latency requirements. At matching speeds, lower latency is preferable.
Q3) Most AIO coolers require higher fan speeds to push air through the radiator, making them noisier.
I’d prefer an AIO over an air cooler unless air cooling suffices.
Typically, a 360 AIO or better performs better than a decent air cooler.
Also, AIO coolers usually have a lifespan of about five years.
Q4) Yes, but the outcome depends on your processor and graphics setup.
A fan or two will help remove heat from the case more quickly.
Context again… what are you planning to install and why?
Q5) In theory, intake and exhaust should perform similarly.
Try one method, switch if necessary.

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TheCraftie
Junior Member
13
02-22-2016, 10:57 AM
#5
What cases?
Do you believe 32gb of RAM will suffice for the next decade? Should I opt for 2x16gb to leave two empty slots for future upgrades?
I’m checking the specifications below—does my motherboard allow a single 32gb slot (meaning four 8gb modules total) or is there a limit to 128gb in one slot?
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TheCraftie
02-22-2016, 10:57 AM #5

What cases?
Do you believe 32gb of RAM will suffice for the next decade? Should I opt for 2x16gb to leave two empty slots for future upgrades?
I’m checking the specifications below—does my motherboard allow a single 32gb slot (meaning four 8gb modules total) or is there a limit to 128gb in one slot?

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Hnrk_
Junior Member
11
02-22-2016, 11:11 AM
#6
I believe 32gb will last a long time.
Using two 16gb units provides dual channel performance at a better price.
For future needs of 64gb, be ready to purchase a 2 x 32gb replacement set.
The RAM should match the original in a single package.
Different upgrades might not function well with Ryzen.
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Hnrk_
02-22-2016, 11:11 AM #6

I believe 32gb will last a long time.
Using two 16gb units provides dual channel performance at a better price.
For future needs of 64gb, be ready to purchase a 2 x 32gb replacement set.
The RAM should match the original in a single package.
Different upgrades might not function well with Ryzen.

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SA_minecraft
Member
203
02-23-2016, 11:19 AM
#7
Are you committed to that particular Silverstone issue?
I’d definitely like to have at least two case fans—one intake and one exhaust.
I’d avoid cases relying solely on 80 mm fans unless you’re okay with the noise or heat they produce. Perhaps you are.
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SA_minecraft
02-23-2016, 11:19 AM #7

Are you committed to that particular Silverstone issue?
I’d definitely like to have at least two case fans—one intake and one exhaust.
I’d avoid cases relying solely on 80 mm fans unless you’re okay with the noise or heat they produce. Perhaps you are.

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Kzxn
Member
55
02-23-2016, 08:11 PM
#8
Does it require every ram in a PC to match the same model?
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Kzxn
02-23-2016, 08:11 PM #8

Does it require every ram in a PC to match the same model?

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waitescraft
Junior Member
3
03-04-2016, 01:06 AM
#9
I could think about Montech Air 100 or Montech Air 100 Lite
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waitescraft
03-04-2016, 01:06 AM #9

I could think about Montech Air 100 or Montech Air 100 Lite

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DeMoMisTy
Member
173
03-11-2016, 03:31 AM
#10
Yes, for optimal results. They are available in RAM kits that match the factory specifications and the same model will be used. Using different models might affect performance.
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DeMoMisTy
03-11-2016, 03:31 AM #10

Yes, for optimal results. They are available in RAM kits that match the factory specifications and the same model will be used. Using different models might affect performance.

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