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R9 7950X Single vs Multi-core optimization tips

R9 7950X Single vs Multi-core optimization tips

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M0rdeKaiser
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12-26-2022, 05:35 AM
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Hello everyone, I recently installed a new system and attempted to boost CPU efficiency using Ryzen Master. I encountered some challenges along the way. Below you'll find more details. System specifications: CPU - R9 7950X, Cooler - Noctua NH-D15, RAM - 32GB, Corsair Vengeance 6000MHz, Motherboard - Asus ROG Strix X670E. Before proceeding, yes, I’m aware that achieving better performance is possible with an AIO or a custom loop. I’m not interested in either, so this isn’t the main focus of my query, regardless of cooler choice. With Expo enabled, I achieved a R23 score around 36,000 with default settings. During overclocking, my voltage remained steady at approximately 1.17V. When undervolting to that level, I maintained a temperature around 95°C with a clock speed cap near 5.1GHz. This configuration yielded a score above 38,000 on R23 (consistent over time). However, single-core performance dropped because the boost was capped at 5.1GHz. I can set Ryzen Master to target 95°C, but it tends to undervolt aggressively until the system freezes. That approach doesn’t seem practical. Question: Can I configure a target temperature of 95°C, enforce a hard voltage limit of 1.17V, and let the system automatically adjust clock speed to stay within those boundaries? Ideally, I’d like to undervolt down to 1.17V and let the CPU self-regulate up to around 95°C, but I haven’t found a way to implement that. I’m open to tweaking BIOS settings instead of relying on Ryzen Master. I’d prefer avoiding a strict 5.1GHz clock cap, as it limits performance when the chip isn’t operating at full capacity. I’m sticking with stock configurations for now.
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M0rdeKaiser
12-26-2022, 05:35 AM #1

Hello everyone, I recently installed a new system and attempted to boost CPU efficiency using Ryzen Master. I encountered some challenges along the way. Below you'll find more details. System specifications: CPU - R9 7950X, Cooler - Noctua NH-D15, RAM - 32GB, Corsair Vengeance 6000MHz, Motherboard - Asus ROG Strix X670E. Before proceeding, yes, I’m aware that achieving better performance is possible with an AIO or a custom loop. I’m not interested in either, so this isn’t the main focus of my query, regardless of cooler choice. With Expo enabled, I achieved a R23 score around 36,000 with default settings. During overclocking, my voltage remained steady at approximately 1.17V. When undervolting to that level, I maintained a temperature around 95°C with a clock speed cap near 5.1GHz. This configuration yielded a score above 38,000 on R23 (consistent over time). However, single-core performance dropped because the boost was capped at 5.1GHz. I can set Ryzen Master to target 95°C, but it tends to undervolt aggressively until the system freezes. That approach doesn’t seem practical. Question: Can I configure a target temperature of 95°C, enforce a hard voltage limit of 1.17V, and let the system automatically adjust clock speed to stay within those boundaries? Ideally, I’d like to undervolt down to 1.17V and let the CPU self-regulate up to around 95°C, but I haven’t found a way to implement that. I’m open to tweaking BIOS settings instead of relying on Ryzen Master. I’d prefer avoiding a strict 5.1GHz clock cap, as it limits performance when the chip isn’t operating at full capacity. I’m sticking with stock configurations for now.

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Sexairty
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12-27-2022, 09:24 PM
#2
AM5 isn't as clear to me, but for it you'd likely combine PBO with a curve optimizer, which seems to be available in Zen 4.
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Sexairty
12-27-2022, 09:24 PM #2

AM5 isn't as clear to me, but for it you'd likely combine PBO with a curve optimizer, which seems to be available in Zen 4.

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Babyl0l
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12-29-2022, 10:38 AM
#3
You want to apply PBO -30 and also run the curve optimizer. The 7700x is currently at 5.45GHz all cores on Cinebench 23, and you believe the 7950x can match or exceed that performance.
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Babyl0l
12-29-2022, 10:38 AM #3

You want to apply PBO -30 and also run the curve optimizer. The 7700x is currently at 5.45GHz all cores on Cinebench 23, and you believe the 7950x can match or exceed that performance.

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sjaastad
Junior Member
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01-04-2023, 12:05 AM
#4
Certainly. The “PBO -30” refers to a specific adjustment in the Precision Boost Overdrive settings. It’s typically found under the Ai Tweaker tab, where you can fine-tune performance parameters. The curve optimizer helps manage these settings automatically, so you don’t need to manually enter every value.
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sjaastad
01-04-2023, 12:05 AM #4

Certainly. The “PBO -30” refers to a specific adjustment in the Precision Boost Overdrive settings. It’s typically found under the Ai Tweaker tab, where you can fine-tune performance parameters. The curve optimizer helps manage these settings automatically, so you don’t need to manually enter every value.

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Crackalack
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01-04-2023, 05:29 AM
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He explains it well. He has some longer ones, but this gets you started. Then you can watch others and learn a bit more. Any questions, feel free to ask.
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Crackalack
01-04-2023, 05:29 AM #5

He explains it well. He has some longer ones, but this gets you started. Then you can watch others and learn a bit more. Any questions, feel free to ask.

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AzoTax
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01-04-2023, 07:26 AM
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Thanks, everyone! My early experiments seem to be heading in the right direction. After adjusting the PBO curve optimizer, I achieved a score of 37500 after just 10 minutes, which is similar to what I got with my changes in Ryzen Master. My single-core performance has also improved. I’ll continue experimenting and share any significant results, but I’m not aiming to push the chip to its limits. Once improvements become minor, they’ll likely go unnoticed. It’s frustrating I found a solid multi-core boost with Ryzen Master while my single-core stats dropped. I really wish the software could let me set temperature and voltage limits with auto-adjustment. In manual overclocking, the limits disappear, but in other modes they vanish too. Maybe there’s a reason for this behavior. I think Ryzen Master is useful for getting a feel for the chip’s potential, but after initial testing it makes sense to tweak settings in BIOS rather than relying on software. Looking ahead, I believe Ryzen Master is a good starting point for understanding your hardware, though you might want to rely on BIOS settings once you’ve tried some adjustments.
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AzoTax
01-04-2023, 07:26 AM #6

Thanks, everyone! My early experiments seem to be heading in the right direction. After adjusting the PBO curve optimizer, I achieved a score of 37500 after just 10 minutes, which is similar to what I got with my changes in Ryzen Master. My single-core performance has also improved. I’ll continue experimenting and share any significant results, but I’m not aiming to push the chip to its limits. Once improvements become minor, they’ll likely go unnoticed. It’s frustrating I found a solid multi-core boost with Ryzen Master while my single-core stats dropped. I really wish the software could let me set temperature and voltage limits with auto-adjustment. In manual overclocking, the limits disappear, but in other modes they vanish too. Maybe there’s a reason for this behavior. I think Ryzen Master is useful for getting a feel for the chip’s potential, but after initial testing it makes sense to tweak settings in BIOS rather than relying on software. Looking ahead, I believe Ryzen Master is a good starting point for understanding your hardware, though you might want to rely on BIOS settings once you’ve tried some adjustments.

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FabiElTrapero
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01-06-2023, 03:18 AM
#7
I agree. I prefer having settings in BIOS rather than using software OC. I feel confident with the 20k Cinebench using the 7700x at 5.45, so I’m content to enjoy it. Honestly, I keep my frame limited in WoW and Minecraft to maintain stable temperatures, which shows I get your point. It’ll be available when needed, but it won’t require constant overclocking anymore—great to see you getting more out of it!
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FabiElTrapero
01-06-2023, 03:18 AM #7

I agree. I prefer having settings in BIOS rather than using software OC. I feel confident with the 20k Cinebench using the 7700x at 5.45, so I’m content to enjoy it. Honestly, I keep my frame limited in WoW and Minecraft to maintain stable temperatures, which shows I get your point. It’ll be available when needed, but it won’t require constant overclocking anymore—great to see you getting more out of it!