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Question Various Crashes - Corrupt Files or RAM?

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XxGrenidierXx
Posting Freak
813
05-09-2023, 01:04 PM
#1
Hi everyone. I'll just get to it:
x570 Aorus Elite
Ryzen 7 5800x
4070ti
Samsung 980 Pro 1TB SSD
G.Skill 32GB (16x2) 3600mhz 16cl
Recently, within the last two weeks, following issues:
Installed Warframe on steam. Also installed it on Epic (I RMT, sue me, could only do so through Epic) Warframe would crash sometimes on steam (UE errors, mostly DX orientated). Works pretty good on Epic.
1a) FF7 Rebirth works fine (max settings, 1440p/144, so fairly demanding)
2) Recently installed BF 2042 through steam... has to launch through EA. Major issues began here.
Game would not launch. Repaired EasyAntiCheat. Game would sometimes launch, crash, various EAA errors... tried to reinstall/rollback drivers.
Error messages suggesting insufficient memory/RAM. SSD had 100gb, made more room. Eventually got it to work and reinstalled driver.
Game worked for a half hour, went to bed.
Last Night
3) Game would not launch/BSOD'd memory_management (ok, so RAM I get it)
Steam and Discord both randomly shutting down and immediately restarting.
Google Chrome windows would die (get the oh snap message) but would work when refreshed.
Reseated RAM, tried each stick. No change.
Also got system_exception BSOD.
4) Tried to shut PC down. Wouldn't turn off. Manually hit switch and unplugged. Cleaned/blew it out. Reset CMOS.
PC would not boot. Black screen. Eventually loaded into repair mode. Attempted to repair/reinstall windows via cloud (I have my USB... somewhere)
Hung on 70%, failed, no changes made.
Booted into desktop.
Tried again to roll back driver. Message stating publisher of driver was unknown...
DDU'd drivers, as I attempted to reinstall current drivers from nvidia. Worked. As I attempted to update, August 2024 driver auto-installed?
Update to current driver also got publisher unknown error...
Left it at August 2024 driver as I had no issues with that. Booted Manor Lords... Not Enough Memory to Render error.
Loaded into BIOS and re-enabled xmp (my bad, I forgot)
Rebooted Manor Lords. Worked.
Booted Warframe and went to populated zone. Worked.
Booted FF7 Rebirth, worked until Fatal Error, but FF7Re is known to have that error sometimes, not entirely abnormal.
Checked temps, CPU has always ran hot even with AIO (70 - 89C under load)
Do sometimes use FanControl for custom curve.
Did a partial memtest which did show some errors... couldn't access any dumps.
No graphic artifacts/errors outside of initial Manor Lords error which went away after re-enabling XMP Profile.
I'm leaning toward my RAM, but realize this could also be corrupt files/my ssd (health check said status OK), or even my CPU/Mobo...
I'm okay with all of that, I just REALLY don't want it to be my GPU, which for all intents and purposes seems fine and has had no other issues.
TL
😀
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Various crash/BSOD errors. I'll try to get dump files when I get home from the office. Haven't had a chance to fully re-test, possible the problem was fixed but I sincerely doubt it.
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XxGrenidierXx
05-09-2023, 01:04 PM #1

Hi everyone. I'll just get to it:
x570 Aorus Elite
Ryzen 7 5800x
4070ti
Samsung 980 Pro 1TB SSD
G.Skill 32GB (16x2) 3600mhz 16cl
Recently, within the last two weeks, following issues:
Installed Warframe on steam. Also installed it on Epic (I RMT, sue me, could only do so through Epic) Warframe would crash sometimes on steam (UE errors, mostly DX orientated). Works pretty good on Epic.
1a) FF7 Rebirth works fine (max settings, 1440p/144, so fairly demanding)
2) Recently installed BF 2042 through steam... has to launch through EA. Major issues began here.
Game would not launch. Repaired EasyAntiCheat. Game would sometimes launch, crash, various EAA errors... tried to reinstall/rollback drivers.
Error messages suggesting insufficient memory/RAM. SSD had 100gb, made more room. Eventually got it to work and reinstalled driver.
Game worked for a half hour, went to bed.
Last Night
3) Game would not launch/BSOD'd memory_management (ok, so RAM I get it)
Steam and Discord both randomly shutting down and immediately restarting.
Google Chrome windows would die (get the oh snap message) but would work when refreshed.
Reseated RAM, tried each stick. No change.
Also got system_exception BSOD.
4) Tried to shut PC down. Wouldn't turn off. Manually hit switch and unplugged. Cleaned/blew it out. Reset CMOS.
PC would not boot. Black screen. Eventually loaded into repair mode. Attempted to repair/reinstall windows via cloud (I have my USB... somewhere)
Hung on 70%, failed, no changes made.
Booted into desktop.
Tried again to roll back driver. Message stating publisher of driver was unknown...
DDU'd drivers, as I attempted to reinstall current drivers from nvidia. Worked. As I attempted to update, August 2024 driver auto-installed?
Update to current driver also got publisher unknown error...
Left it at August 2024 driver as I had no issues with that. Booted Manor Lords... Not Enough Memory to Render error.
Loaded into BIOS and re-enabled xmp (my bad, I forgot)
Rebooted Manor Lords. Worked.
Booted Warframe and went to populated zone. Worked.
Booted FF7 Rebirth, worked until Fatal Error, but FF7Re is known to have that error sometimes, not entirely abnormal.
Checked temps, CPU has always ran hot even with AIO (70 - 89C under load)
Do sometimes use FanControl for custom curve.
Did a partial memtest which did show some errors... couldn't access any dumps.
No graphic artifacts/errors outside of initial Manor Lords error which went away after re-enabling XMP Profile.
I'm leaning toward my RAM, but realize this could also be corrupt files/my ssd (health check said status OK), or even my CPU/Mobo...
I'm okay with all of that, I just REALLY don't want it to be my GPU, which for all intents and purposes seems fine and has had no other issues.
TL
😀
R
Various crash/BSOD errors. I'll try to get dump files when I get home from the office. Haven't had a chance to fully re-test, possible the problem was fixed but I sincerely doubt it.

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AmberTheGamer
Junior Member
20
05-27-2023, 02:43 AM
#2
When sharing a troubleshooting thread, it's important to provide detailed system specifications. List them clearly as follows:
CPU:
CPU cooler:
Motherboard:
Ram:
SSD/HDD:
GPU:
PSU:
Chassis:
OS:
Monitor:
Include the age of the PSU along with its make and model. Also, provide the current BIOS version for your motherboard. For BSoD issues, we'll need to review your .dmp files. Upload them to a platform similar to DropBox and share the link for our reference.
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AmberTheGamer
05-27-2023, 02:43 AM #2

When sharing a troubleshooting thread, it's important to provide detailed system specifications. List them clearly as follows:
CPU:
CPU cooler:
Motherboard:
Ram:
SSD/HDD:
GPU:
PSU:
Chassis:
OS:
Monitor:
Include the age of the PSU along with its make and model. Also, provide the current BIOS version for your motherboard. For BSoD issues, we'll need to review your .dmp files. Upload them to a platform similar to DropBox and share the link for our reference.

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169
06-01-2023, 11:00 PM
#3
CPU: Ryzen 7 5800x
CPU cooler: Cooler Master Master Liquid ML240L RGB V2
Motherboard: x570 Aorus Elite
Ram: G.Skill 32GB (16x2) 3600mhz 16CL
SSD/HDD: Samsung 980 Pro 1TB
GPU: Asus Tuff 4070ti
PSU: - To verify upon arrival. 2nd hand PC
- To verify upon arrival. 2nd hand PC - Approximately 1 to 1.5 years
OS: Windows 10
Chassis:
Monitor: MG278Q
BIOS Version - To confirm at home.
Planning additional tests and troubleshooting once back, I’ll collect dumps tonight. Thought it’d be useful to note symptoms now.
Thanks!
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josbakmeel2000
06-01-2023, 11:00 PM #3

CPU: Ryzen 7 5800x
CPU cooler: Cooler Master Master Liquid ML240L RGB V2
Motherboard: x570 Aorus Elite
Ram: G.Skill 32GB (16x2) 3600mhz 16CL
SSD/HDD: Samsung 980 Pro 1TB
GPU: Asus Tuff 4070ti
PSU: - To verify upon arrival. 2nd hand PC
- To verify upon arrival. 2nd hand PC - Approximately 1 to 1.5 years
OS: Windows 10
Chassis:
Monitor: MG278Q
BIOS Version - To confirm at home.
Planning additional tests and troubleshooting once back, I’ll collect dumps tonight. Thought it’d be useful to note symptoms now.
Thanks!

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Tarzan22
Junior Member
15
06-01-2023, 11:14 PM
#4
Starting now, every bugcheck will be noted. Issues like MEMORY_MANAGEMENT or WATCHDOG can provide valuable clues. Possible causes include faulty RAM, poor board traces from a tightly fitted CPU cooler, or a defective CPU. Based on my experience, if the problem persists and remains centered around MEMORY_MANAGMENT or CRITICAL_PROCESS_DIED areas, it usually points to a CPU issue that might be resolved by turning off "C-States" in the motherboard's BIOS.
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Tarzan22
06-01-2023, 11:14 PM #4

Starting now, every bugcheck will be noted. Issues like MEMORY_MANAGEMENT or WATCHDOG can provide valuable clues. Possible causes include faulty RAM, poor board traces from a tightly fitted CPU cooler, or a defective CPU. Based on my experience, if the problem persists and remains centered around MEMORY_MANAGMENT or CRITICAL_PROCESS_DIED areas, it usually points to a CPU issue that might be resolved by turning off "C-States" in the motherboard's BIOS.

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PlayForCC
Member
217
06-03-2023, 05:34 PM
#5
Thank you. The typical BSOD is Mem_Man. I haven't experienced WATCHDOG or C_P_D. Just MEM_MAN and SYSTEM_EXCEPTION. Possibly 3 to 4 BSODs so far. I'll update tonight!
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PlayForCC
06-03-2023, 05:34 PM #5

Thank you. The typical BSOD is Mem_Man. I haven't experienced WATCHDOG or C_P_D. Just MEM_MAN and SYSTEM_EXCEPTION. Possibly 3 to 4 BSODs so far. I'll update tonight!

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icemanface
Member
66
06-03-2023, 07:26 PM
#6
Corrupted temporary cache may cause crashes, and old apps can also result in crashes.
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icemanface
06-03-2023, 07:26 PM #6

Corrupted temporary cache may cause crashes, and old apps can also result in crashes.

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samigurl0903
Senior Member
603
06-03-2023, 10:44 PM
#7
Looking a bit foolish for not checking when I was away.
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samigurl0903
06-03-2023, 10:44 PM #7

Looking a bit foolish for not checking when I was away.

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seigneurZOZ
Member
126
06-05-2023, 01:22 PM
#8
CPU: Ryzen 7 5800x
CPU cooler: Cooler Master Master Liquid ML240L RGB V2
Motherboard: x570 Aorus Elite
Ram: G.Skill 32GB (16x2) 3600mhz 16CL
SSD/HDD: Samsung 980 Pro 1TB
GPU: Asus Tuff 4070ti
PSU: Not confirmed, should be removed for inspection. Estimated lifespan 1-1.5 years
OS: Windows 10
Chassis:
Monitor: MG278Q
BIOS Version: F38a
I couldn't find dumps from yesterday; I have some from a few days back.
Let me know if it works, I've never compressed or used DB before.
Link: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/41o1...ey...ztemdl3xe4&st=sy42tvmw&dl=0
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seigneurZOZ
06-05-2023, 01:22 PM #8

CPU: Ryzen 7 5800x
CPU cooler: Cooler Master Master Liquid ML240L RGB V2
Motherboard: x570 Aorus Elite
Ram: G.Skill 32GB (16x2) 3600mhz 16CL
SSD/HDD: Samsung 980 Pro 1TB
GPU: Asus Tuff 4070ti
PSU: Not confirmed, should be removed for inspection. Estimated lifespan 1-1.5 years
OS: Windows 10
Chassis:
Monitor: MG278Q
BIOS Version: F38a
I couldn't find dumps from yesterday; I have some from a few days back.
Let me know if it works, I've never compressed or used DB before.
Link: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/41o1...ey...ztemdl3xe4&st=sy42tvmw&dl=0

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jvac_450
Junior Member
29
06-06-2023, 08:36 PM
#9
Well, I'm not entirely sure what happened or what was involved, but my guess was definitely corrupt files.
The PC is now running smoothly, no issues detected, RAM passed the test, and there were no problems... I ran a chkdsk scan, but it didn't work. The PC crashed again, but it executed an auto-repair and everything seemed fine.
I think because Windows 10 keeps pushing Windows 11 and I've rolled it back a few times, some files got damaged or broken during that process, and now they're fixed.
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jvac_450
06-06-2023, 08:36 PM #9

Well, I'm not entirely sure what happened or what was involved, but my guess was definitely corrupt files.
The PC is now running smoothly, no issues detected, RAM passed the test, and there were no problems... I ran a chkdsk scan, but it didn't work. The PC crashed again, but it executed an auto-repair and everything seemed fine.
I think because Windows 10 keeps pushing Windows 11 and I've rolled it back a few times, some files got damaged or broken during that process, and now they're fixed.

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MR_SYKE
Junior Member
41
06-07-2023, 11:22 AM
#10
Check Resource History/Monitor and Event Manager.
One or both of these tools might have recorded certain error codes, warnings, or information events right before or after the crashes.
Search for the errors that have since "disappeared".
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MR_SYKE
06-07-2023, 11:22 AM #10

Check Resource History/Monitor and Event Manager.
One or both of these tools might have recorded certain error codes, warnings, or information events right before or after the crashes.
Search for the errors that have since "disappeared".