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Question Sapphire 9070XT Nitro+ cannot operate below -85mv?

Question Sapphire 9070XT Nitro+ cannot operate below -85mv?

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ladymorepork
Posting Freak
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10-02-2023, 11:50 PM
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How do all those players manage to reach such low scores like -120, -130, or even -180 (like de8auer)? Check out the videos for more details. The player with this setup played for several hours and achieved the best score of 7719 using Steel Nomad with -85mv, fast timings, 2750mhz RAM, and a 10% power boost. But with standard settings, it drops to 7528, which seems better in terms of power efficiency, heat, and stability. The card won’t go below -85mv even at default power, and it struggles with Steel Nomad unless you adjust power between 30% and 10%. So, did I end up with a decent chip?
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ladymorepork
10-02-2023, 11:50 PM #1

How do all those players manage to reach such low scores like -120, -130, or even -180 (like de8auer)? Check out the videos for more details. The player with this setup played for several hours and achieved the best score of 7719 using Steel Nomad with -85mv, fast timings, 2750mhz RAM, and a 10% power boost. But with standard settings, it drops to 7528, which seems better in terms of power efficiency, heat, and stability. The card won’t go below -85mv even at default power, and it struggles with Steel Nomad unless you adjust power between 30% and 10%. So, did I end up with a decent chip?

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Gh0st_Hunt3r
Junior Member
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10-21-2023, 06:39 PM
#2
Update your post with complete hardware details and operating system specifics. Provide the power supply information including make, model, wattage, age, and condition (original, build, refurbished, used). List all connected peripherals. Indicate whether the network is wired or wireless. Regarding performance issues, please specify any problems you're experiencing. What games do you typically play? Additional details are required.
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Gh0st_Hunt3r
10-21-2023, 06:39 PM #2

Update your post with complete hardware details and operating system specifics. Provide the power supply information including make, model, wattage, age, and condition (original, build, refurbished, used). List all connected peripherals. Indicate whether the network is wired or wireless. Regarding performance issues, please specify any problems you're experiencing. What games do you typically play? Additional details are required.

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Tommy6774
Member
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10-22-2023, 02:09 AM
#3
PSU is a TierA Raijintek Cratos 850W, brand new.
Disc features an Intel Optane P4800X 375GB storage (not full, irrelevant due to 3D Xpoint).
Logitech MX Keys and MX Vertical are connected, along with Creative Pebbles.
Wired connection supports 1GB network.
CPU specifications: Ultra 9 285K with 8200@CL38 RAM (48GB).
Operating system: Windows 11 25H2
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Tommy6774
10-22-2023, 02:09 AM #3

PSU is a TierA Raijintek Cratos 850W, brand new.
Disc features an Intel Optane P4800X 375GB storage (not full, irrelevant due to 3D Xpoint).
Logitech MX Keys and MX Vertical are connected, along with Creative Pebbles.
Wired connection supports 1GB network.
CPU specifications: Ultra 9 285K with 8200@CL38 RAM (48GB).
Operating system: Windows 11 25H2

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10-22-2023, 03:30 AM
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Certain GPUs have minor advantages, while others may be slightly inferior; most fall somewhere in between. If your GPU matches the advertised speeds, it's a plus, and if another GPU outperforms yours, it's beneficial.
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clement_246871
10-22-2023, 03:30 AM #4

Certain GPUs have minor advantages, while others may be slightly inferior; most fall somewhere in between. If your GPU matches the advertised speeds, it's a plus, and if another GPU outperforms yours, it's beneficial.

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guntaj800
Member
112
10-26-2023, 08:18 AM
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This is the perspective I've received. The variation in manufacturing quality is evident when silicon ingots are drawn. Technically, it's not possible to achieve 100% pure silicon.

GPUs need semiconductor-grade silicon with extremely high purity—generally between 99.9999% and 99.999999999% (9N to 11N)—with purity determined by the silicon-to-non-silicon atom ratio.

Why stick to 11N then? Well, economics play a role. It depends on what the application requires for the station. For a device that never reaches even 1080p resolution, using 11N is unnecessary, isn't it?

These impurities are essentially random atoms within the crystal lattice, which are then doped with other elements, creating a non-uniform statistical distribution—not a perfect spread.

Occasionally, there are irregularities in the lattice where electrical performance drops due to ion or elemental interference. This is why chips undergo testing and are categorized—beyond just surface flaws from etching processes, where faulty transistors fail.

So, manufacturers test various samples before production, or claim they got a high-quality GPU by chance during purchase with excellent performance. That’s impressive luck, right?

The reasons behind these choices might be more complex if you’re interested. The technology behind this could hint at future trends and help track what manufacturers are developing—possibly to avoid misleading tactics.

This is just one example; efforts to prevent scams exist, but only through transparent journalism. It’s hard to say this industry is the most open, especially when it comes to keeping consumers informed.

If you're not overly influenced by them, the GPU market can resist trends that favor short-term gains over long-term progress. Some complaints are about quality control, while others aim to filter out real defects or counterfeit products.

The 12-volt power supply rollout was a typical example of a minor issue with significant financial impact.

Even considering the billions in outdated hardware, there’s still value in older models like the 1060, which costs just $15 a year—still a bargain for an industry that needs to evolve.

I suspect they might prefer greater control over statistical variations, either through better silicon or by shaping market dynamics. This could explain why even entry-level GPUs can start at $75-100.

Back in the day, a PCI 2MB VGA card cost around $9.99 or $14.99—similar to a network card. Or perhaps $49.99?

Prices have risen gradually. The simpler part was when you didn’t have to worry about unreliable power supplies; by 2010, that changed.
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guntaj800
10-26-2023, 08:18 AM #5

This is the perspective I've received. The variation in manufacturing quality is evident when silicon ingots are drawn. Technically, it's not possible to achieve 100% pure silicon.

GPUs need semiconductor-grade silicon with extremely high purity—generally between 99.9999% and 99.999999999% (9N to 11N)—with purity determined by the silicon-to-non-silicon atom ratio.

Why stick to 11N then? Well, economics play a role. It depends on what the application requires for the station. For a device that never reaches even 1080p resolution, using 11N is unnecessary, isn't it?

These impurities are essentially random atoms within the crystal lattice, which are then doped with other elements, creating a non-uniform statistical distribution—not a perfect spread.

Occasionally, there are irregularities in the lattice where electrical performance drops due to ion or elemental interference. This is why chips undergo testing and are categorized—beyond just surface flaws from etching processes, where faulty transistors fail.

So, manufacturers test various samples before production, or claim they got a high-quality GPU by chance during purchase with excellent performance. That’s impressive luck, right?

The reasons behind these choices might be more complex if you’re interested. The technology behind this could hint at future trends and help track what manufacturers are developing—possibly to avoid misleading tactics.

This is just one example; efforts to prevent scams exist, but only through transparent journalism. It’s hard to say this industry is the most open, especially when it comes to keeping consumers informed.

If you're not overly influenced by them, the GPU market can resist trends that favor short-term gains over long-term progress. Some complaints are about quality control, while others aim to filter out real defects or counterfeit products.

The 12-volt power supply rollout was a typical example of a minor issue with significant financial impact.

Even considering the billions in outdated hardware, there’s still value in older models like the 1060, which costs just $15 a year—still a bargain for an industry that needs to evolve.

I suspect they might prefer greater control over statistical variations, either through better silicon or by shaping market dynamics. This could explain why even entry-level GPUs can start at $75-100.

Back in the day, a PCI 2MB VGA card cost around $9.99 or $14.99—similar to a network card. Or perhaps $49.99?

Prices have risen gradually. The simpler part was when you didn’t have to worry about unreliable power supplies; by 2010, that changed.