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Question MSI, I7, 3060 Stuttering occasionally and intensifying

Question MSI, I7, 3060 Stuttering occasionally and intensifying

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nonrnonr
Member
241
11-05-2021, 07:18 PM
#1
Hi,
After repasting the MSI GF65-10UE, it runs smoother with less lag and throttling compared to before. However, it still occasionally stutters in games and the temperatures remain elevated. Could this high temperature be a concern for the laptop? I’m considering undervolting and worry about possible air bubbles forming between the CPU and GPU due to the heat. What are typical temperatures for these components?

The specs:
I7-10750h
16gb RAM
1tb SSD
GeForce RTX 3060 Mobile 75W
Dying light: the beast

Before repaste:
- Max CPU temp: 99°C
- Avg CPU temp: 94°C
- Throttling: 100%
After repaste:
- Max CPU temp: 91°C
- Avg CPU temp: 87°C
- Throttling: 14%

Playing at low settings. Does this suggest the laptop could still perform better? Should I repaste and/or undervolt it?
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nonrnonr
11-05-2021, 07:18 PM #1

Hi,
After repasting the MSI GF65-10UE, it runs smoother with less lag and throttling compared to before. However, it still occasionally stutters in games and the temperatures remain elevated. Could this high temperature be a concern for the laptop? I’m considering undervolting and worry about possible air bubbles forming between the CPU and GPU due to the heat. What are typical temperatures for these components?

The specs:
I7-10750h
16gb RAM
1tb SSD
GeForce RTX 3060 Mobile 75W
Dying light: the beast

Before repaste:
- Max CPU temp: 99°C
- Avg CPU temp: 94°C
- Throttling: 100%
After repaste:
- Max CPU temp: 91°C
- Avg CPU temp: 87°C
- Throttling: 14%

Playing at low settings. Does this suggest the laptop could still perform better? Should I repaste and/or undervolt it?

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PersieO
Posting Freak
786
11-06-2021, 10:10 AM
#2
Welcome to the forums, newcomer!
In your stock configuration, you should've reduced the processor's vcore, cache, iGPU, and discrete GPU. Try this thread; improving settings for i7-10750H.
I've been using ThrottleStop for about a year now and I really enjoy it, but now I'm looking for more sensible adjustments. So I just ask you to check my current settings and let me know if any changes would be helpful.
My target is usually around 70°C during gameplay...
www.techpowerup.com
I usually set -50 on all the fields mentioned above, then gradually lower them. Keep in mind there are some BIOS for laptops that block undervolting because of Plundervolt.
What thermal paste did you install to replace the factory one? It might be useful to check if your laptop has pending BIOS updates. Also, you can use DDU to remove all GPU drivers (Intel, AMD, Nvidia) in Safe Mode, then manually reinstall the latest driver from Nvidia's support site using an elevated command—right-click the installer and select Run as Administrator.
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PersieO
11-06-2021, 10:10 AM #2

Welcome to the forums, newcomer!
In your stock configuration, you should've reduced the processor's vcore, cache, iGPU, and discrete GPU. Try this thread; improving settings for i7-10750H.
I've been using ThrottleStop for about a year now and I really enjoy it, but now I'm looking for more sensible adjustments. So I just ask you to check my current settings and let me know if any changes would be helpful.
My target is usually around 70°C during gameplay...
www.techpowerup.com
I usually set -50 on all the fields mentioned above, then gradually lower them. Keep in mind there are some BIOS for laptops that block undervolting because of Plundervolt.
What thermal paste did you install to replace the factory one? It might be useful to check if your laptop has pending BIOS updates. Also, you can use DDU to remove all GPU drivers (Intel, AMD, Nvidia) in Safe Mode, then manually reinstall the latest driver from Nvidia's support site using an elevated command—right-click the installer and select Run as Administrator.

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226
11-22-2021, 02:09 AM
#3
Thank you for your welcome! I plan to check the undervolting soon. Have you experienced similar temperature drops, around 5-15°C? I’ll proceed with the bios update and reinstall the driver. What were your thoughts on the temperatures? Were they very high or just a bit elevated?
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n_tiffanyblue_
11-22-2021, 02:09 AM #3

Thank you for your welcome! I plan to check the undervolting soon. Have you experienced similar temperature drops, around 5-15°C? I’ll proceed with the bios update and reinstall the driver. What were your thoughts on the temperatures? Were they very high or just a bit elevated?

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Peteechops25
Member
210
11-23-2021, 02:21 PM
#4
I've noticed temperatures can decrease by 5-15°C, isn't that what you experienced too? Not every laptop is built the same, but I've seen cases where cooling improves. Reducing voltage also aids battery performance and lowers heat output beyond just temperature reduction.
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Peteechops25
11-23-2021, 02:21 PM #4

I've noticed temperatures can decrease by 5-15°C, isn't that what you experienced too? Not every laptop is built the same, but I've seen cases where cooling improves. Reducing voltage also aids battery performance and lowers heat output beyond just temperature reduction.

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Commissar_Dan
Junior Member
28
11-23-2021, 10:42 PM
#5
Sorry about that.
The Arctic MX-6 Ultimate is the paste I'm using. I think it works well.
The room temperature isn't accessible because it's on a friend's laptop.
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Commissar_Dan
11-23-2021, 10:42 PM #5

Sorry about that.
The Arctic MX-6 Ultimate is the paste I'm using. I think it works well.
The room temperature isn't accessible because it's on a friend's laptop.

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BookMix
Member
207
11-25-2021, 10:48 PM
#6
Yes, it is correct. You used isopropyl alcohol to clean the area, then applied a small amount of it on the CPU and GPU's die surface.
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BookMix
11-25-2021, 10:48 PM #6

Yes, it is correct. You used isopropyl alcohol to clean the area, then applied a small amount of it on the CPU and GPU's die surface.

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Brek_
Member
249
11-30-2021, 02:44 PM
#7
I attempted to use isopropyl alcohol to remove the paste. It was very hard, so I had to scrape it off. I left the dried paste on the sides of the die because I was worried about damaging the capacitors above the CPU.
I tried spreading it with a credit card, which I usually don’t do. Usually I just make a pea-sized dot. I think this might be why the CPU is still quite hot, though I’m not sure.
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Brek_
11-30-2021, 02:44 PM #7

I attempted to use isopropyl alcohol to remove the paste. It was very hard, so I had to scrape it off. I left the dried paste on the sides of the die because I was worried about damaging the capacitors above the CPU.
I tried spreading it with a credit card, which I usually don’t do. Usually I just make a pea-sized dot. I think this might be why the CPU is still quite hot, though I’m not sure.