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Question about the impact of graphics card brands, such as AIB and Founders Edition, on performance.

Question about the impact of graphics card brands, such as AIB and Founders Edition, on performance.

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Hate_my_self
Junior Member
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05-26-2022, 01:44 AM
#1
Hello. I'm assembling a setup with a Ryzen 9950X3D (my own), an RTX 5080 (not mine), 64GB of G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo DDR5 memory (6000 MT/s, CL26) (my own), a Samsung 9100 Pro 4TB PCIe 5.0 NVMe (my own), an X870E AM5 motherboard (not mine), an AIO cooler (not mine), and 140mm fans (not mine) inside a HAVN 420 case (not mine).
The cost of the 5080 is roughly $1000 if you purchase the Founders Edition directly from Nvidia. Yet no one appears to offer that option. On the other side, the ROG Astral variant of that graphics card is $1800. At that price point, I might add another $500 or so for a 5090. But again, the 5090 is only that price if you opt for the Founders Edition (or some budget AIB alternatives), so the same logic applies.
How much value am I gaining for the extra $800 if I choose the Astral? And what exactly am I receiving? Improved airflow, seems to be the case. All my research indicates that performance variations between similar graphics cards from different manufacturers are minimal. Is it simply about having more fans to keep the GPU cooler? Is that worth $800 (or even $400 if I switched to a different budget brand)? What are the distinctions, and will I truly perceive any differences? Does a top-tier system require more than the Founders Edition to maintain optimal GPU temperature (or any other purpose)?
For $1000, I could get the Founders Edition 5080, but at the same price I might also obtain the premium AIB models from the 5070 TI. Why would someone opt for a 5070 TI priced at $1000 and not upgrade to a Founders Edition 5080 instead?
I need to decide quickly and would appreciate your guidance in understanding the choices ahead.
Thanks in advance for your time and support as I near completion.
Best regards.
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Hate_my_self
05-26-2022, 01:44 AM #1

Hello. I'm assembling a setup with a Ryzen 9950X3D (my own), an RTX 5080 (not mine), 64GB of G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo DDR5 memory (6000 MT/s, CL26) (my own), a Samsung 9100 Pro 4TB PCIe 5.0 NVMe (my own), an X870E AM5 motherboard (not mine), an AIO cooler (not mine), and 140mm fans (not mine) inside a HAVN 420 case (not mine).
The cost of the 5080 is roughly $1000 if you purchase the Founders Edition directly from Nvidia. Yet no one appears to offer that option. On the other side, the ROG Astral variant of that graphics card is $1800. At that price point, I might add another $500 or so for a 5090. But again, the 5090 is only that price if you opt for the Founders Edition (or some budget AIB alternatives), so the same logic applies.
How much value am I gaining for the extra $800 if I choose the Astral? And what exactly am I receiving? Improved airflow, seems to be the case. All my research indicates that performance variations between similar graphics cards from different manufacturers are minimal. Is it simply about having more fans to keep the GPU cooler? Is that worth $800 (or even $400 if I switched to a different budget brand)? What are the distinctions, and will I truly perceive any differences? Does a top-tier system require more than the Founders Edition to maintain optimal GPU temperature (or any other purpose)?
For $1000, I could get the Founders Edition 5080, but at the same price I might also obtain the premium AIB models from the 5070 TI. Why would someone opt for a 5070 TI priced at $1000 and not upgrade to a Founders Edition 5080 instead?
I need to decide quickly and would appreciate your guidance in understanding the choices ahead.
Thanks in advance for your time and support as I near completion.
Best regards.

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Edo19
Member
165
05-31-2022, 12:19 PM
#2
Bling and design play the biggest role in the upcharge. Some customers chose vendors based on customer service. I’ll focus on your case space, airflow, and clearance from other motherboard parts. RGB might not suit everyone. Pick the one you’ll be proud of, because FPS improvements on a GPU will be limited.
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Edo19
05-31-2022, 12:19 PM #2

Bling and design play the biggest role in the upcharge. Some customers chose vendors based on customer service. I’ll focus on your case space, airflow, and clearance from other motherboard parts. RGB might not suit everyone. Pick the one you’ll be proud of, because FPS improvements on a GPU will be limited.

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05-31-2022, 12:37 PM
#3
Back then, having a card from brands like ASUS offered better cooling and more reliable chips. Nowadays, the difference is minimal, though most OEM makers can be customized for improved cooling by third-party water cooling solutions. Founder cards usually work, but some ASUS models are built too heavily, which could affect the PCB over time.
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OurSaviorJesus
05-31-2022, 12:37 PM #3

Back then, having a card from brands like ASUS offered better cooling and more reliable chips. Nowadays, the difference is minimal, though most OEM makers can be customized for improved cooling by third-party water cooling solutions. Founder cards usually work, but some ASUS models are built too heavily, which could affect the PCB over time.

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SkelitonMage
Member
51
06-06-2022, 03:19 PM
#4
Find the most affordable version of the 5080.
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SkelitonMage
06-06-2022, 03:19 PM #4

Find the most affordable version of the 5080.

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HeteBom
Member
146
06-07-2022, 05:52 PM
#5
Thanks, everyone. I'm planning to work with RGB but aiming for a more subtle look—something understated rather than the bright, candy-colored style often seen in RGB setups. Instead of a full color wash, I'd prefer a clean white light to highlight the shapes and edges against what would otherwise be a mostly black background.

The triple fan configuration (which the original model doesn't have) really appeals to me. I want to maintain a sleek, cool appearance. Although I just checked Nvidia's site and saw that the Founder's Edition is currently out of stock, I wasn't sure about it at the time. Still, it's not a deal-breaker.

They mention the 5090 starting at $2000, which is tempting if I could get it. But honestly, it's not close to what I'm after.

I'm considering the 5080 model here:
https://marketplace.nvidia.com/en-us/con...gaming-oc/
It's listed at $1300, which fits the vibe I'm after. A few options on Amazon or Newegg are a bit cheaper ($1200), but I'm more focused on the overall feel. The Astral also looks good, though the $100 extra for style isn't worth it for me.

Thanks for your support. Feel free to share any additional ideas. Have a great year!
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HeteBom
06-07-2022, 05:52 PM #5

Thanks, everyone. I'm planning to work with RGB but aiming for a more subtle look—something understated rather than the bright, candy-colored style often seen in RGB setups. Instead of a full color wash, I'd prefer a clean white light to highlight the shapes and edges against what would otherwise be a mostly black background.

The triple fan configuration (which the original model doesn't have) really appeals to me. I want to maintain a sleek, cool appearance. Although I just checked Nvidia's site and saw that the Founder's Edition is currently out of stock, I wasn't sure about it at the time. Still, it's not a deal-breaker.

They mention the 5090 starting at $2000, which is tempting if I could get it. But honestly, it's not close to what I'm after.

I'm considering the 5080 model here:
https://marketplace.nvidia.com/en-us/con...gaming-oc/
It's listed at $1300, which fits the vibe I'm after. A few options on Amazon or Newegg are a bit cheaper ($1200), but I'm more focused on the overall feel. The Astral also looks good, though the $100 extra for style isn't worth it for me.

Thanks for your support. Feel free to share any additional ideas. Have a great year!

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JebThePleb
Posting Freak
898
06-26-2022, 07:52 AM
#6
2 Important warnings about gigabyte cards.
1. Past problems with cracking PCBs on 3000 and 4000 models are unclear for 5000.
2. Recent issues with the 5000 series involve gel paste that leads to overheating or failure, possibly because it conducts heat instead of using standard thermal pads.
3. All 5000 series models from 5070 onward may melt or ignite.
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JebThePleb
06-26-2022, 07:52 AM #6

2 Important warnings about gigabyte cards.
1. Past problems with cracking PCBs on 3000 and 4000 models are unclear for 5000.
2. Recent issues with the 5000 series involve gel paste that leads to overheating or failure, possibly because it conducts heat instead of using standard thermal pads.
3. All 5000 series models from 5070 onward may melt or ignite.

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Kawaii_Sakae
Junior Member
10
06-26-2022, 08:18 AM
#7
Well that's not encouraging, since that's exactly what I received. I might have chosen the Asus Prime, but it was $100 more and all the reviews suggested the Gigabyte Gaming OC was superior (even if the differences were minor).

The alternative was the Gigabyte Windforce OC, which is smaller and research indicated it had significantly worse VRMs and cooling, though it was priced the same as the Gaming OC.

I would have liked to buy the Founder's Edition for $1000 on Nvidia's site when I had the opportunity a while back. It now costs almost $1600 on Newegg.

Gigabyte – I had been hearing good things about their newer GPUs, and the main issue was that Gigabyte's software is quite poor.

On the other hand, I'm satisfied with my purchase… as long as it doesn't suddenly fail.

Seriously though, I could still cancel and buy the Asus Prime for $1400. I might consider that if enough people here agree it would be a smart decision.

Please let me know your thoughts. I appreciate the design of both cards and the $100 price gap, even though it's not huge for me. It won't affect my budget much, so your feedback would be appreciated.
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Kawaii_Sakae
06-26-2022, 08:18 AM #7

Well that's not encouraging, since that's exactly what I received. I might have chosen the Asus Prime, but it was $100 more and all the reviews suggested the Gigabyte Gaming OC was superior (even if the differences were minor).

The alternative was the Gigabyte Windforce OC, which is smaller and research indicated it had significantly worse VRMs and cooling, though it was priced the same as the Gaming OC.

I would have liked to buy the Founder's Edition for $1000 on Nvidia's site when I had the opportunity a while back. It now costs almost $1600 on Newegg.

Gigabyte – I had been hearing good things about their newer GPUs, and the main issue was that Gigabyte's software is quite poor.

On the other hand, I'm satisfied with my purchase… as long as it doesn't suddenly fail.

Seriously though, I could still cancel and buy the Asus Prime for $1400. I might consider that if enough people here agree it would be a smart decision.

Please let me know your thoughts. I appreciate the design of both cards and the $100 price gap, even though it's not huge for me. It won't affect my budget much, so your feedback would be appreciated.

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Redstoner137
Posting Freak
811
06-27-2022, 09:14 PM
#8
I think I should go with ASUS. I did a quick search and it seems like a risk with Gigabyte batches, but the newer ones fixed the gel problem. Who knows what stock you'll get from the shop.
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Redstoner137
06-27-2022, 09:14 PM #8

I think I should go with ASUS. I did a quick search and it seems like a risk with Gigabyte batches, but the newer ones fixed the gel problem. Who knows what stock you'll get from the shop.