Plan to purchase a new PC and seeking suggestions
Plan to purchase a new PC and seeking suggestions
Hello everyone,
It seems it's time to replace the hardware since I'm still using older models like the 7700k and an RX5700. I'm wondering if now is the right moment to upgrade or should I hold off until after Christmas or even later (Ryzen 8000 series)?
Here’s what I’ve considered so far:
- CPU: Ryzen 7 7800X3D - 366€
- Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE - 43€
- Mobo: MSI MAG B650 TOMAHAWK WIFI - 211€
- RAM: G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB DDR5-6000 CL32 Memory - 123€
- SSD: Western Digital Black SN770 2TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 - 105€
- Case: Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case - 90€
- PSU: Corsair RM750e (2023) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified - 120€
- GPU: Uncertain. Either a RX6800 - 408€ right now because the value seems promising, or I could go for the 7900X - 990€ later when prices might drop. I could afford the bigger one but risk overspending.
- I’m also unsure about the Mobo with the 7800X3D. The voltage issue at launch should be clear to most users, and after ASUS stopped supporting the manufacturer, it’s probably not worth it. Stability is key for me.
I won’t overclock and prefer using 1-2 SSDs without affecting the GPU. I also use a X-56 hotas and a 5.1 sound system. I don’t need Wi-Fi or extra features.
The system is intended solely for gaming, mainly for simulations such as Star Citizen and Arma, plus RPGs like Witcher 4 or Cyberpunk.
I’d appreciate any advice or suggestions you have.
A nice build overall. The only thing I’d like to suggest is increasing the PSU wattage slightly, aiming for at least 850W. This would give more peace of mind during transient spikes, especially if you ever upgrade to a high-power card like the 7900XTX or similar in the future, ensuring everything runs smoothly.
AMD recommends around 800W.
https://www.amd.com/en/products/graphics...rx-7900xtx
The HXi model, ATX 3.0, comes with a 10-year warranty, compared to the 7 years offered by RMe series models and uses superior Japanese capacitors instead of Taiwanese ones. It’s a bit expensive, but you’ll be in good hands.
https://www.corsair.com/us/en/p/psu/cp-9...9020259-na
Concerning the SoC voltage and MSI board, these have been resolved since the 28/4 BIOS update.
MAG B650 TOMAHAWK WIFI
Powered by AMD Ryzen 7000 series processors, this device is built with performance-critical features to outlast competitors. It includes Core Boost, Memory Boost, Premium Thermal Solution, and M.2 Shield Frost.
www.msi.com
You should be able to look up or email MSI support using the serial number to confirm the BIOS revision. You might need to use Flashback as well to enable CPU support. If your CPU is supported in the box (which should be the case), you can check the BIOS revision inside and update if needed.
I recommend searching for a B650E mobo compatible with B650 mobo and PCIe 5.0 SSD support. The Gigabyte Aorus elite and Asrock riptide are good options with reliable VRMs. Updating the mobo BIOS can prevent CPU damage from overvoltage. I think the 7800XT is around 500 euros, as Jan mentioned; by the end you’d know about the 4070 Super. A launch price of 500 USD could compete with AMD’s 7800XT. Regarding SSDs and power supplies: SSD Benchmarks Hierarchy 2025: We’ve evaluated more than 100 SSDs recently, showing their performance rankings. We organized them by capacity and efficiency. PSU Tier List rev. 17.0g - Cultists Network This list will assist in picking the optimal PSU from a wide range of models. cultists.network Consider a tier A ATX 3.0 PSU.
Here are the updates you requested:
The changes you've implemented to the system are well received.
Processor: Ryzen7 7800x3d - 366€
Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 - 38€
RAM: Corsair Vengeance 32 GB DDR5-6000 CL30 - 127€
Motherboard: MSI MAG B650 TOMAHAWK WIFI - 187€ (with cashback)
Motherboard Alternative: Gigabyte B650 AORUS ELITE AX - 243€
Power Supply: be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 850 W 80+ Gold - 126€
Case: Fractal Design North - 140€
GPU: XFX Speedster MERC 310 Black Edition Radeon RX 7900 XT 20 GB - 800€
SSD: Kingston KC3000 2.048 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 - 117€
Regarding the motherboard, PCIe 5.0 SSD support is a strong feature. With the MSI cashback offer, the price difference would be around 50€. Would this justify the investment for a gaming system? Given that the Teamgroup Z540 2TB is still quite costly, it seems reasonable.
Also, do you have a trustworthy source to learn more about VRMs or the overall quality of B650 motherboards?
Edit: You might prefer the Gigabyte Aorus Elite, especially since you plan to use it yourself. Would you say it offers a solid and stable setup with the Corsair Vengeance 32 GB DDR5-6000 CL30 and the 7800x3d?
Thank you in advance.
PCIe 5 Nvme connections aren't widely available on B650 boards. A few may exist, but most are compatible with x670 models. The 7th generation Ryzen offers 24 PCIe 5 lanes, preventing interference with graphics channels unlike the Intel 13th gen which has only 16 lanes. The 14th generation increased this to 20 lanes.
The X670 AORUS ELITE AX (rev. 1.0/1.2) highlights key features | Motherboard - GIGABYTE Global
Durable quality from GIGABYTE Ultra Durable™ boards combines innovative features and technologies, delivering the ultimate experience...
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The TUF GAMING X670E-PLUS | Motherboards | ASUS AU - Tech Specs
An AMD AM5 (Ryzen™ 7000) ATX gaming board from ASUS TUF GAMING features 16 synchronized power stages, PCIe® 5.0 support, DDR5 RAM compatibility, four M.2 ports, USB 3.2 Gen 2x2 Type-C®, and Aura Sync RGB lighting.
www.asus.com
The MAG X670E TOMAHAWK WIFI is built around AMD Ryzen 7000 processors, delivering robust performance features to surpass competitors. It includes enhancements such as Core Boost, Memory Boost, Premium Thermal Solution, and M.2 Shield Frozr.
www.msi.com
Gigabyte AX offers solid options. MSI only provides a single M2 heatsink; premium models feature multiple heatsinks. It would be great if all versions included comprehensive heatsink coverage.
MSI AMD X670 Series - Ideal Motherboard for AMD Ryzen 7000 2023
The MSI X670 series showcases the full potential of AMD Ryzen 7000 processors, supporting PCIe 5.0 and DDR5. Additional features consist of Premium VRM Design, M.2 Shield Frozr, Wi-Fi 6E, PD60W, Smart Button, M.2 Gen5, and USB 3.2 Gen 2x2 Type-C.
www.msi.com
Asus TUF Plus B650 also comes with PCIe 5.0 SSD compatibility. For VRM motherboards, you should check the product page and ensure it meets the requirements. Look for a 12-stage VRM phase with at least 60 capacitors. The PCIe 5.0 SSD support is planned for future upgrades. The KC3000 SSD is a solid choice, so go with that. The B650 will accommodate next-generation CPU upgrades, giving you a reliable motherboard for at least five years, which will also allow the SSD upgrade during that period.
The GIGABYTE X670 Gaming X AX is available at a discounted price of 250€, almost matching the cost of the B650-E mobos. When looking at it side by side with the GIGABYTE X670 AORUS Elite AX, the differences are minimal. The main changes I notice are the use of an 8-layer 2X Copper PCB versus a 6-layer 2X Copper PCB for the VRM (uncertain about its significance), one additional 4-pin RGB header on the Elite model, and a slight improvement in cooling performance.
What are your thoughts on the GIGABYTE X670 Gaming X AX priced at 250€?
https://www.gigabyte.com/de/Motherboard/...-rev-10#kf
There’s also a v2 version for the same price, but it appears to have minor issues with the VRM setup or my interpretation.
v1 specifications:
- VRM18 virtual phases (16+2), 10 real phases (8+2)
- PWM Controller: XDPE192C3 (up to 12 Phases)
- MOSFETs CPU (VCORE): 16x 70A TDA21472
- MOSFETs SoC (VCCGT): 2x 60A NCP303160
v2 specifications:
- VRM16 virtual phases (14+2), 9 real phases (7+2)
- PWM Controller: XDPE192C3B (up to 12 Phases)
- MOSFETs CPU (VCORE): 14x 60A NCP303160
the X670 board features a budget build with doubled power phases.
the B650 Aorus elite offers 70A caps across 14 phases, making it the superior choice.
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/WBwy...s-elite-ax
After reviewing several opinions and comparing prices, I feel confident choosing the ASUS ROG Strix B650E-F Gaming WIFI. It’s now on sale for 230€ and looks reasonable at this cost.
For your current setup (2x16GB RAM), I’m looking for a recommendation that prioritizes stability over overclocking.
Here are a few considerations. If you intend to upgrade later with something like the RX 7900 XT 20GB, ensure you have an 850W power supply. The Corsair 4000D requires a dedicated installation. The case includes one 120mm front intake fan and one 120mm exhaust fan. Consider the Fractal Design Focus 2 with two 140mm front intake fans plus an additional 120mm exhaust fan for better airflow.
Focus 2 provides a straightforward design that maximizes airflow through its thoughtful internal structure. This layout not only simplifies assembly but also enhances cooling efficiency for components.
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