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Persistent frame drops and low latency issues reported. Assistance required for resolution.

Persistent frame drops and low latency issues reported. Assistance required for resolution.

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trickster224
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05-31-2023, 09:27 PM
#21
Over the past days I've experimented with various RAM configurations in search of optimal undervolt, overclock or stock performance. Unfortunately, nothing met my expectations. All suggested options were attempted, even reapplying settings from the BIOS version 7D52v17 as noted, but still no success. I chose to capture the Cyberpunk2077 results before it crashed, noticing the GPU dropping intermittently. This suggests a possible system issue, leading me to consider replacing the RTX 3070 with a 4070TI. Would you be in agreement? Thanks again.
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trickster224
05-31-2023, 09:27 PM #21

Over the past days I've experimented with various RAM configurations in search of optimal undervolt, overclock or stock performance. Unfortunately, nothing met my expectations. All suggested options were attempted, even reapplying settings from the BIOS version 7D52v17 as noted, but still no success. I chose to capture the Cyberpunk2077 results before it crashed, noticing the GPU dropping intermittently. This suggests a possible system issue, leading me to consider replacing the RTX 3070 with a 4070TI. Would you be in agreement? Thanks again.

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ko94
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06-14-2023, 02:03 PM
#22
Did you configure each RAM timing setting correctly? The key values, like CAS latency, should match the specifications for your RAM. Also, RAM tends to cause problems if you lower its voltage. You might need to boost the voltage if you aim for tighter timings or faster performance. For more details, check the information provided. You can also swap in a different GPU if you wish... I’m surprised this will solve your problem. But right now, the work seems more about troubleshooting than hardware changes.

If you’re persistent, consider these points: Your system uses a different configuration than the one without these issues. It’s possible a component is overheating (though I’m not sure). You mentioned an Nvidia or AMD GPU—have you tried replacing it? TL;DR, it might be a software or UEFI setting issue.

If you keep trying, here are some ideas: The case might be blocking airflow. Try removing the side panel and using a powerful fan to direct airflow directly onto the motherboard and GPU. This could help if cooling is the real cause. Also, verify that your Nvidia Control Panel settings are correct for all tests.

Your problem seems like it stems from a configuration or software glitch (possibly in UEFI). If you want to continue, consider checking if other PCs behave similarly. Have you tried changing the refresh rate on the monitor? It could affect how often the issue appears.

You might also want to disable Windows Defender completely for a while and see if it resolves anything. For deeper analysis, use FrameView (Nvidia tool) instead of MSI Afterburner—it logs more data. If you share the CSV file, I can help interpret it.

Lastly, reaching out to Nvidia support could be useful. They often have insights into common issues across similar setups.
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ko94
06-14-2023, 02:03 PM #22

Did you configure each RAM timing setting correctly? The key values, like CAS latency, should match the specifications for your RAM. Also, RAM tends to cause problems if you lower its voltage. You might need to boost the voltage if you aim for tighter timings or faster performance. For more details, check the information provided. You can also swap in a different GPU if you wish... I’m surprised this will solve your problem. But right now, the work seems more about troubleshooting than hardware changes.

If you’re persistent, consider these points: Your system uses a different configuration than the one without these issues. It’s possible a component is overheating (though I’m not sure). You mentioned an Nvidia or AMD GPU—have you tried replacing it? TL;DR, it might be a software or UEFI setting issue.

If you keep trying, here are some ideas: The case might be blocking airflow. Try removing the side panel and using a powerful fan to direct airflow directly onto the motherboard and GPU. This could help if cooling is the real cause. Also, verify that your Nvidia Control Panel settings are correct for all tests.

Your problem seems like it stems from a configuration or software glitch (possibly in UEFI). If you want to continue, consider checking if other PCs behave similarly. Have you tried changing the refresh rate on the monitor? It could affect how often the issue appears.

You might also want to disable Windows Defender completely for a while and see if it resolves anything. For deeper analysis, use FrameView (Nvidia tool) instead of MSI Afterburner—it logs more data. If you share the CSV file, I can help interpret it.

Lastly, reaching out to Nvidia support could be useful. They often have insights into common issues across similar setups.

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ImperialNerF
Member
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06-15-2023, 05:56 AM
#23
Hey again, Once again, thanks for taking the time to write all this knowledge out. NVIDIA Control Panel settings are set to maximum performance, which was one of the first few settings that I did. I have double-checked again to make sure that they are still the same, which they are. I tried memory timings, but every time I set the RAM to what it was supposed to run, for some reason, my system lost performance when it came to booting up and running simple things like Discord and such. Randomly kept on getting BSOD, and once I put the profile back to default, it has managed to stop crashing and runs smooth again. But I have noticed that mine is nowhere near like yours, so I am starting to wonder if I need to trial another RAM kit. When it comes to overclocking, I'm great at CPU & GPU, but changing stuff RAM-side, I have no idea where to start. When I did the tests, I basically found someone with the exact same RAM kit and followed their guide on how to do it, changed them higher and lower, and for some reason, that is when the system stability went absolutely mental. I even tried the built-in timings to the motherboard, but they also made stability weak with constant BSOD. Yes, the GPU was replaced once; however, when it was replaced, it was just swapped for what was in the streaming PC at the time, which is a Palit Jetstream GTX 1080. I also tried my mate's 3060, but stutters were there, and I wrote it off to lower performance from the GPU end. I've changed displays to the new Samsung G5 to rule out displays being the issue. Every cable has been replaced, as well as a new mouse & keyboard, as I read somewhere that a faulty keyboard or mouse could be randomly overloading the USB bus, which could also cause the game to stutter, which sadly was not my issue. Case-wise, I've had the PC in a case built on the desk and on a test bench that I grabbed off Amazon, thinking it was temps, as I see the GPU hot spot sitting at 93°C sometimes when gaming for long periods of time. Now, my PC has been sitting with the side panel off for a few months now, so basically, I just think that is the normal running temp, as the non-hotspot is around 65°C - 73°C. To rule out updates being the cause since one system runs fine and the other does not. I am very funny with my Windows. For some reason, I have it set up to roll them out manually. Yeah, a bit OCD, but it keeps both my systems identical to rule out it being an OS installation. It took me ages to trust Win 11, but now upgraded, as I thought at first it could be a Win 10 issue with this CPU. I have once before swapped around the M.2s between the systems that caused me to do an image flash back as I use Trueimage for backing up the systems to the home NAS. Sadly, there was no improvement, and the system ran the same, which is what pointed me to it being a hardware problem. This was about 6 months ago. Frameview Data https://drive.google.com/file/d/1IPj6Vmk...sp=sharing
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ImperialNerF
06-15-2023, 05:56 AM #23

Hey again, Once again, thanks for taking the time to write all this knowledge out. NVIDIA Control Panel settings are set to maximum performance, which was one of the first few settings that I did. I have double-checked again to make sure that they are still the same, which they are. I tried memory timings, but every time I set the RAM to what it was supposed to run, for some reason, my system lost performance when it came to booting up and running simple things like Discord and such. Randomly kept on getting BSOD, and once I put the profile back to default, it has managed to stop crashing and runs smooth again. But I have noticed that mine is nowhere near like yours, so I am starting to wonder if I need to trial another RAM kit. When it comes to overclocking, I'm great at CPU & GPU, but changing stuff RAM-side, I have no idea where to start. When I did the tests, I basically found someone with the exact same RAM kit and followed their guide on how to do it, changed them higher and lower, and for some reason, that is when the system stability went absolutely mental. I even tried the built-in timings to the motherboard, but they also made stability weak with constant BSOD. Yes, the GPU was replaced once; however, when it was replaced, it was just swapped for what was in the streaming PC at the time, which is a Palit Jetstream GTX 1080. I also tried my mate's 3060, but stutters were there, and I wrote it off to lower performance from the GPU end. I've changed displays to the new Samsung G5 to rule out displays being the issue. Every cable has been replaced, as well as a new mouse & keyboard, as I read somewhere that a faulty keyboard or mouse could be randomly overloading the USB bus, which could also cause the game to stutter, which sadly was not my issue. Case-wise, I've had the PC in a case built on the desk and on a test bench that I grabbed off Amazon, thinking it was temps, as I see the GPU hot spot sitting at 93°C sometimes when gaming for long periods of time. Now, my PC has been sitting with the side panel off for a few months now, so basically, I just think that is the normal running temp, as the non-hotspot is around 65°C - 73°C. To rule out updates being the cause since one system runs fine and the other does not. I am very funny with my Windows. For some reason, I have it set up to roll them out manually. Yeah, a bit OCD, but it keeps both my systems identical to rule out it being an OS installation. It took me ages to trust Win 11, but now upgraded, as I thought at first it could be a Win 10 issue with this CPU. I have once before swapped around the M.2s between the systems that caused me to do an image flash back as I use Trueimage for backing up the systems to the home NAS. Sadly, there was no improvement, and the system ran the same, which is what pointed me to it being a hardware problem. This was about 6 months ago. Frameview Data https://drive.google.com/file/d/1IPj6Vmk...sp=sharing

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Roe56
Member
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06-22-2023, 09:33 AM
#24
I wonder if this is some really funky motherboard issue.
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Roe56
06-22-2023, 09:33 AM #24

I wonder if this is some really funky motherboard issue.

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Default_Matix
Member
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06-22-2023, 11:04 AM
#25
I'll follow up next week. The FrameView information is really helpful (and it actually highlighted the problem in detail too). From what you shared, it seems like a hardware issue involving the motherboard or CPU. Based on the numbers, if you're quick to act, swapping out the motherboard might resolve it. Someone else might review the data and provide a faster solution than I can draft right now—though it will be more involved. The fact that RAM isn't running at advertised speeds with stable performance is also puzzling.
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Default_Matix
06-22-2023, 11:04 AM #25

I'll follow up next week. The FrameView information is really helpful (and it actually highlighted the problem in detail too). From what you shared, it seems like a hardware issue involving the motherboard or CPU. Based on the numbers, if you're quick to act, swapping out the motherboard might resolve it. Someone else might review the data and provide a faster solution than I can draft right now—though it will be more involved. The fact that RAM isn't running at advertised speeds with stable performance is also puzzling.

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