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Performance of Windows 10 with mechanical drives varies. Faster drives generally improve speed and responsiveness.

Performance of Windows 10 with mechanical drives varies. Faster drives generally improve speed and responsiveness.

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capBo
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02-18-2016, 06:30 PM
#1
It's likely due to each program requiring its own DLL file, which is small but slows down reading and writing. Also, Windows 10 was heavily optimized, using a version of NT from the early 1990s with added features that limit performance.
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capBo
02-18-2016, 06:30 PM #1

It's likely due to each program requiring its own DLL file, which is small but slows down reading and writing. Also, Windows 10 was heavily optimized, using a version of NT from the early 1990s with added features that limit performance.

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kykycake
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02-18-2016, 07:57 PM
#2
It hinges on IOPS (input/output operations per second). HDDs typically range from 50 to 100, while SSDs can handle thousands. Windows performs better when these operations are quick, and faster execution means smoother performance. Hard drives are constrained by mechanical limits—heads can only move in one direction at a time on the platter. SSDs, however, can access any location in the memory with minimal delay. In past versions like XP, Windows struggled heavily on HDDs, mainly due to memory pressure, which wasn’t a major issue then. Over the past 15 years, computing has advanced dramatically, making SSDs vastly outpace HDD speeds, widening the performance gap each year.
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kykycake
02-18-2016, 07:57 PM #2

It hinges on IOPS (input/output operations per second). HDDs typically range from 50 to 100, while SSDs can handle thousands. Windows performs better when these operations are quick, and faster execution means smoother performance. Hard drives are constrained by mechanical limits—heads can only move in one direction at a time on the platter. SSDs, however, can access any location in the memory with minimal delay. In past versions like XP, Windows struggled heavily on HDDs, mainly due to memory pressure, which wasn’t a major issue then. Over the past 15 years, computing has advanced dramatically, making SSDs vastly outpace HDD speeds, widening the performance gap each year.

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J4im3x0
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02-18-2016, 08:18 PM
#3
Windows 10 has a lot of more things going on than past version of Windows. Same applies for past version of Windows compared to even older version of Windows in most cases. The more features you have, the fancier framework you have, the more security systems and layers you have, the more it takes system resources. It is all trade offs. Microsoft is taking advantage of the fact that systems are way more powerful than the old days. Keep in mind that Windows is not alone, all your software you are using, including games, Steam, your mouse/keyboard driver/software and printer, all are fancier than before. They do more and they look nicer compared to before. All costs performance (requires more CPU, sometimes GPU if the interface is GPU rendered, more RAM, and has more files to load, so more more disk activity). Example: Old: New: Now the above is just an example with AMD Graphics card panel, but the same applies to everything OS related. Don't forget also, that OS has a lot of backend stuff as well that you never see. HDD performance has not really increased in the past 15 years. Mixed with the fact that 5400RPM seems to be choice of more and more people over 7200RPM which was a must back then (like, seriously, WTF?!)... but I blame mostly on OEMs which are taking advantage of unaware consumers. A 5400RPM HDD was a HUGE no-no back then, most got a 7200RPM, which is still crap, but better. Now you have way more things to fetch from disk, you have now disk manufactures using shingles layout, focuses on lower price over performance, AND consumers now buy slower 54000RPMs drives over 7200RPMs 12 years ago, a really fast 7200RPM was a huge bottleneck on a system. Take any old system, like a first gen Core i7 900/800 series, or Core 2 Quad, but an SSD in (nothing fancy, just a budget one), and it will FLY in comparison, regardless of the OS, despite on SATA-2. Same with a Core 2 Duo to some extent... depending on the model of the Core 2 Duo, the performance difference is less visible. Now you are coming to a point where the CPU can't keep up. You got used to SSD's. That is why. You are just cutting features out of the OS. Features that was there back in Vista and some XP days. So yes, the more your cut, things will run faster. Except SuperFetch, introduced in Vista, is aimed to pre-loads commonly used applications into memory, so that applications starts faster with system with HDDs. SSD's still benefits from it, as the fastest SSD on the market today, that is available on the consumer side, matches the speed (peek speed) of DDR2 RAM. Still a LONG way to go before SuperFetch won't be needed. There is a lot of crap being said on the Internet, please do your research.
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J4im3x0
02-18-2016, 08:18 PM #3

Windows 10 has a lot of more things going on than past version of Windows. Same applies for past version of Windows compared to even older version of Windows in most cases. The more features you have, the fancier framework you have, the more security systems and layers you have, the more it takes system resources. It is all trade offs. Microsoft is taking advantage of the fact that systems are way more powerful than the old days. Keep in mind that Windows is not alone, all your software you are using, including games, Steam, your mouse/keyboard driver/software and printer, all are fancier than before. They do more and they look nicer compared to before. All costs performance (requires more CPU, sometimes GPU if the interface is GPU rendered, more RAM, and has more files to load, so more more disk activity). Example: Old: New: Now the above is just an example with AMD Graphics card panel, but the same applies to everything OS related. Don't forget also, that OS has a lot of backend stuff as well that you never see. HDD performance has not really increased in the past 15 years. Mixed with the fact that 5400RPM seems to be choice of more and more people over 7200RPM which was a must back then (like, seriously, WTF?!)... but I blame mostly on OEMs which are taking advantage of unaware consumers. A 5400RPM HDD was a HUGE no-no back then, most got a 7200RPM, which is still crap, but better. Now you have way more things to fetch from disk, you have now disk manufactures using shingles layout, focuses on lower price over performance, AND consumers now buy slower 54000RPMs drives over 7200RPMs 12 years ago, a really fast 7200RPM was a huge bottleneck on a system. Take any old system, like a first gen Core i7 900/800 series, or Core 2 Quad, but an SSD in (nothing fancy, just a budget one), and it will FLY in comparison, regardless of the OS, despite on SATA-2. Same with a Core 2 Duo to some extent... depending on the model of the Core 2 Duo, the performance difference is less visible. Now you are coming to a point where the CPU can't keep up. You got used to SSD's. That is why. You are just cutting features out of the OS. Features that was there back in Vista and some XP days. So yes, the more your cut, things will run faster. Except SuperFetch, introduced in Vista, is aimed to pre-loads commonly used applications into memory, so that applications starts faster with system with HDDs. SSD's still benefits from it, as the fastest SSD on the market today, that is available on the consumer side, matches the speed (peek speed) of DDR2 RAM. Still a LONG way to go before SuperFetch won't be needed. There is a lot of crap being said on the Internet, please do your research.

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ASAAD_3D
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02-19-2016, 01:18 AM
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It's interesting I noticed PCs running mechanical drives working okay on Windows 10, yet I hadn't recorded any differences. The fact that some fixes seem to help is intriguing. While SSDs usually outperform HDDs, it's still possible they function adequately. @GoodBytes you might be onto a point. If 5400RPM drives became more common, it could explain the unusual pattern I've observed. People rarely complain about HDDs failing to perform well back then unless there was a real issue. I'm not sure if getting used to SSDs is just a mindset shift, but it could influence how I perceive things. Curious if bigger mechanical drives might actually slow things down—like a 500gig drive outperforming a 1TB one under similar conditions? I imagine that would be surprising. EDIT: Recent searches suggest mixed results, but generally it seems mechanical drives aren't that bad these days. Some sources even note larger mechanical drives tend to be quicker, so that theory doesn't hold up. In business settings, suppliers mostly push SSDs for high-end laptops, so we often have to replace parts or pay extra.
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ASAAD_3D
02-19-2016, 01:18 AM #4

It's interesting I noticed PCs running mechanical drives working okay on Windows 10, yet I hadn't recorded any differences. The fact that some fixes seem to help is intriguing. While SSDs usually outperform HDDs, it's still possible they function adequately. @GoodBytes you might be onto a point. If 5400RPM drives became more common, it could explain the unusual pattern I've observed. People rarely complain about HDDs failing to perform well back then unless there was a real issue. I'm not sure if getting used to SSDs is just a mindset shift, but it could influence how I perceive things. Curious if bigger mechanical drives might actually slow things down—like a 500gig drive outperforming a 1TB one under similar conditions? I imagine that would be surprising. EDIT: Recent searches suggest mixed results, but generally it seems mechanical drives aren't that bad these days. Some sources even note larger mechanical drives tend to be quicker, so that theory doesn't hold up. In business settings, suppliers mostly push SSDs for high-end laptops, so we often have to replace parts or pay extra.

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Killerman1834
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02-20-2016, 08:42 PM
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Key elements in hard drive efficiency come from two main aspects: speed and storage capacity. The greater these factors, the quicker the drive operates. - Rotation rate and cache volume Play a significant role in enterprise settings, where demand remains strong for 10K and 15K hard disks spinning at 10 and 15 thousand RPM. These provide minimal delay and solid IOPS despite their size. A 5400RPM model tends to lag due to longer platter access times, limiting its speed compared to the faster alternatives. 7200RPM offers a balanced compromise. The cache size notably affects performance, especially for files that are accessed often and small in size. This temporary memory, typically ranging from 32 to 256MB, enhances speed by storing frequently read data. SSDs with larger caches—generally 4 to 32GB—can compensate for slower physical rotation, making them faster overall.
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Killerman1834
02-20-2016, 08:42 PM #5

Key elements in hard drive efficiency come from two main aspects: speed and storage capacity. The greater these factors, the quicker the drive operates. - Rotation rate and cache volume Play a significant role in enterprise settings, where demand remains strong for 10K and 15K hard disks spinning at 10 and 15 thousand RPM. These provide minimal delay and solid IOPS despite their size. A 5400RPM model tends to lag due to longer platter access times, limiting its speed compared to the faster alternatives. 7200RPM offers a balanced compromise. The cache size notably affects performance, especially for files that are accessed often and small in size. This temporary memory, typically ranging from 32 to 256MB, enhances speed by storing frequently read data. SSDs with larger caches—generally 4 to 32GB—can compensate for slower physical rotation, making them faster overall.

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JonasW999
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02-20-2016, 10:31 PM
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There are additional factors at play. Many individuals understand the advantages of SSD storage and adopt it. It's typical for people to notice a noticeable change when transitioning from an HDD to an SSD. However, switching back from SSD to HDD is uncommon. If you've been using SSD for some period and attempt to run your system on an HDD, the performance gap can be substantial. Far greater than simply moving from HDD to SSD. When I first changed from older speakers to a more costly model, the improvement was significant. Yet I questioned whether the investment was justified. After reconnecting for testing, my previous speakers sounded quite poor. I believe that daily SSD usage might lead users to underestimate speed compared to past experiences with HDD and Windows 7. It's more about perception—people often recall outdated benchmarks. I recall that a 386 DX running Windows 3.1 felt quite responsive, and similarly, modern Microsoft Word took over a tenth of a second to load, whereas now it's almost instantaneous.
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JonasW999
02-20-2016, 10:31 PM #6

There are additional factors at play. Many individuals understand the advantages of SSD storage and adopt it. It's typical for people to notice a noticeable change when transitioning from an HDD to an SSD. However, switching back from SSD to HDD is uncommon. If you've been using SSD for some period and attempt to run your system on an HDD, the performance gap can be substantial. Far greater than simply moving from HDD to SSD. When I first changed from older speakers to a more costly model, the improvement was significant. Yet I questioned whether the investment was justified. After reconnecting for testing, my previous speakers sounded quite poor. I believe that daily SSD usage might lead users to underestimate speed compared to past experiences with HDD and Windows 7. It's more about perception—people often recall outdated benchmarks. I recall that a 386 DX running Windows 3.1 felt quite responsive, and similarly, modern Microsoft Word took over a tenth of a second to load, whereas now it's almost instantaneous.