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Performance drops when using JEDEC RAM.

Performance drops when using JEDEC RAM.

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zShard
Member
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09-01-2016, 03:13 PM
#1
I'm having trouble locating the right answers. Stability is my top priority, so I'd prefer JEDEC standards if possible. The specs you listed are impressive, but I'm curious about the performance drop when comparing your i5 11400f to a high-end XMP build with faster timings. Any insights would be helpful?
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zShard
09-01-2016, 03:13 PM #1

I'm having trouble locating the right answers. Stability is my top priority, so I'd prefer JEDEC standards if possible. The specs you listed are impressive, but I'm curious about the performance drop when comparing your i5 11400f to a high-end XMP build with faster timings. Any insights would be helpful?

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MikeTheSuper
Junior Member
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09-17-2016, 03:25 PM
#2
JEDEC uses very loose timings so it's not very ideal. Heck, many server kits run much faster than JEDEC. I don't really see any reason why you should stick to JEDEC. If you care about stability so much then you should opt for ECC memory in the first place.
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MikeTheSuper
09-17-2016, 03:25 PM #2

JEDEC uses very loose timings so it's not very ideal. Heck, many server kits run much faster than JEDEC. I don't really see any reason why you should stick to JEDEC. If you care about stability so much then you should opt for ECC memory in the first place.

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EuropeanUnion
Senior Member
700
09-17-2016, 06:06 PM
#3
It seems the 1 AMD board is compatible while none of the Intel boards are. That's a bit surprising.
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EuropeanUnion
09-17-2016, 06:06 PM #3

It seems the 1 AMD board is compatible while none of the Intel boards are. That's a bit surprising.

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JAWS0116
Junior Member
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09-20-2016, 10:09 PM
#4
Regular consumer RAM can be stable for many users, but there are concerns about reliability and long-term performance. What bothers you might be issues like manufacturing defects, limited lifespan, or compatibility problems with certain systems.
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JAWS0116
09-20-2016, 10:09 PM #4

Regular consumer RAM can be stable for many users, but there are concerns about reliability and long-term performance. What bothers you might be issues like manufacturing defects, limited lifespan, or compatibility problems with certain systems.

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bunchow_hi
Junior Member
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09-21-2016, 12:50 AM
#5
They’re saying it could stress the memory controller and suggest avoiding high-end consumer RAM for longer life. I’m still weighing this myself.
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bunchow_hi
09-21-2016, 12:50 AM #5

They’re saying it could stress the memory controller and suggest avoiding high-end consumer RAM for longer life. I’m still weighing this myself.

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MegaBUFFALO
Member
161
09-21-2016, 04:24 AM
#6
I'm just saying that if you're so desperate for stability, you're on the wrong platform. There is more to the RAM performance than just timings and clocks but if you want your answer... I can assure you that you will at the very least lose 10% preformance, probably more. And if your i5 is running on a low-end board you may already lose another 20% of performance just because of the motherboard in which case the RAM choice is the least of your worries. Anyways, if you really care that much about stability and you have to stick to whatever HW you use right now, then no matter what RAM you buy, the first thing you do is do an extensive RAM stability test lasting for many hours (RAM Test from Kahru Software for example). Because otherwise you will never be sure if your RAM is stable even if it has very lose timings. Sticking to JEDEC makes very little sense.
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MegaBUFFALO
09-21-2016, 04:24 AM #6

I'm just saying that if you're so desperate for stability, you're on the wrong platform. There is more to the RAM performance than just timings and clocks but if you want your answer... I can assure you that you will at the very least lose 10% preformance, probably more. And if your i5 is running on a low-end board you may already lose another 20% of performance just because of the motherboard in which case the RAM choice is the least of your worries. Anyways, if you really care that much about stability and you have to stick to whatever HW you use right now, then no matter what RAM you buy, the first thing you do is do an extensive RAM stability test lasting for many hours (RAM Test from Kahru Software for example). Because otherwise you will never be sure if your RAM is stable even if it has very lose timings. Sticking to JEDEC makes very little sense.

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imTri
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09-22-2016, 10:20 AM
#7
The board should work similarly to the B560M model. If you notice any problems, I’m happy to return it. For a balanced choice, a mid-range RAM like DDR4-3200 or DDR4-3600 would be suitable.
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imTri
09-22-2016, 10:20 AM #7

The board should work similarly to the B560M model. If you notice any problems, I’m happy to return it. For a balanced choice, a mid-range RAM like DDR4-3200 or DDR4-3600 would be suitable.

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_Maddy__
Member
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10-10-2016, 03:00 AM
#8
This topic hasn't been widely discussed before, so there isn't much evidence or backing. The claim about a strain affecting high-frequency RAM in early Ryzen CPUs isn't commonly cited. Your long experience without issues suggests it may not apply to your situation.
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_Maddy__
10-10-2016, 03:00 AM #8

This topic hasn't been widely discussed before, so there isn't much evidence or backing. The claim about a strain affecting high-frequency RAM in early Ryzen CPUs isn't commonly cited. Your long experience without issues suggests it may not apply to your situation.

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shark1045
Member
199
10-11-2016, 05:18 PM
#9
He’s a seasoned person who faced problems with consumer products before, he uses ECC RAM, and he generally supported WereCat’s comment when I demonstrated it.
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shark1045
10-11-2016, 05:18 PM #9

He’s a seasoned person who faced problems with consumer products before, he uses ECC RAM, and he generally supported WereCat’s comment when I demonstrated it.

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WD_Trashster
Senior Member
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10-15-2016, 05:36 PM
#10
XMP is an overclocking feature that allows RAM to operate beyond the CPU's official limits. It often works smoothly unless stability problems arise, which usually stem from the motherboard's automatic tuning. In most situations it’s not a big deal, and if it’s unstable, it’s likely due to poor setup. The chipset should be fine. I suggest verifying the memory's quality level for your system and choosing an option that balances speed and reliability.

For advice, I’ve worked with Crucial extensively and never faced issues on various platforms. However, I notice many users report problems with Corsair products, though I haven’t personally experienced them. Every day I see at least five complaints about XMP not functioning properly.
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WD_Trashster
10-15-2016, 05:36 PM #10

XMP is an overclocking feature that allows RAM to operate beyond the CPU's official limits. It often works smoothly unless stability problems arise, which usually stem from the motherboard's automatic tuning. In most situations it’s not a big deal, and if it’s unstable, it’s likely due to poor setup. The chipset should be fine. I suggest verifying the memory's quality level for your system and choosing an option that balances speed and reliability.

For advice, I’ve worked with Crucial extensively and never faced issues on various platforms. However, I notice many users report problems with Corsair products, though I haven’t personally experienced them. Every day I see at least five complaints about XMP not functioning properly.

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