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PC from three years ago is starting to cause frustration...DOCP problems

PC from three years ago is starting to cause frustration...DOCP problems

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CybeR_StinG
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11-15-2024, 10:56 PM
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Mobo: ASUS TUF B650 Wifi Plus CPU, Ryzen 7500f RAM, Corsair Vengeance DDR5 5600. Mobo bios is current. Activating DOCP in BIOS is leading to several problems: startup time is excessively long—about 30 seconds for Windows login. Initially, the screen remains blank for those 30 seconds when powering on. After pressing delete immediately, no boot screen appears, and entering BIOS isn’t possible even after deleting the key. Once powered on, the monitor displays “no input,” then the system boots into Windows. Using the Windows 11 troubleshooting restart doesn’t help; it still lets you enter UEFI BIOS but doesn’t work. Selecting that option causes a reboot and leaves the screen blank. I’ve restarted the PC 20–30 times in various ways, sometimes unplugging it or removing components. Once, I briefly saw the boot menu with a delete key prompt, but it only appeared a few times. Removing RAM or NVME drive didn’t resolve the issue. The only fix was disabling DOCP—then boot time dropped to 5–10 seconds and the splash screen appeared. Re-enabling DOCP still caused the same problem. After that, I used the BIOS flashback button on the motherboard to gain access.

Other observations: During boot failures, the QLED display stayed locked on DRAM for 10–15 seconds before the VGA light activated and Windows loaded. The VGA light stayed illuminated even after switching to Windows, despite the GPU being fine and the Furmark score normal. When DOCP was off, the system ran smoothly. Stress tests with CPU-Z showed no issues.
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CybeR_StinG
11-15-2024, 10:56 PM #1

Mobo: ASUS TUF B650 Wifi Plus CPU, Ryzen 7500f RAM, Corsair Vengeance DDR5 5600. Mobo bios is current. Activating DOCP in BIOS is leading to several problems: startup time is excessively long—about 30 seconds for Windows login. Initially, the screen remains blank for those 30 seconds when powering on. After pressing delete immediately, no boot screen appears, and entering BIOS isn’t possible even after deleting the key. Once powered on, the monitor displays “no input,” then the system boots into Windows. Using the Windows 11 troubleshooting restart doesn’t help; it still lets you enter UEFI BIOS but doesn’t work. Selecting that option causes a reboot and leaves the screen blank. I’ve restarted the PC 20–30 times in various ways, sometimes unplugging it or removing components. Once, I briefly saw the boot menu with a delete key prompt, but it only appeared a few times. Removing RAM or NVME drive didn’t resolve the issue. The only fix was disabling DOCP—then boot time dropped to 5–10 seconds and the splash screen appeared. Re-enabling DOCP still caused the same problem. After that, I used the BIOS flashback button on the motherboard to gain access.

Other observations: During boot failures, the QLED display stayed locked on DRAM for 10–15 seconds before the VGA light activated and Windows loaded. The VGA light stayed illuminated even after switching to Windows, despite the GPU being fine and the Furmark score normal. When DOCP was off, the system ran smoothly. Stress tests with CPU-Z showed no issues.

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MrScooter2
Member
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11-15-2024, 10:56 PM
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The time frame is typical, though accessing the BIOS remains challenging. On ASUS it’s important to use DOCP II/EXPO II as they are labeled in reverse, while DOCP I/EXPO I focuses on adjusting RAM timings instead of the values already set on the sticks. It might also be beneficial to replace the RAM with DDR5 6000 CL30 EXPO if it supports XMP, as this can simplify operation and improve performance for Ryzen processors.
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MrScooter2
11-15-2024, 10:56 PM #2

The time frame is typical, though accessing the BIOS remains challenging. On ASUS it’s important to use DOCP II/EXPO II as they are labeled in reverse, while DOCP I/EXPO I focuses on adjusting RAM timings instead of the values already set on the sticks. It might also be beneficial to replace the RAM with DDR5 6000 CL30 EXPO if it supports XMP, as this can simplify operation and improve performance for Ryzen processors.

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Serpenh33
Member
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11-15-2024, 10:56 PM
#3
I understand the long boot times are tolerable, but not being able to access BIOS is what bothers me. I haven’t adjusted RAM settings much. With DOCP it only offers enable/disable choices. Should I investigate further? Is DOCP worth keeping? I own a 4070 super and a 1440p monitor, mainly for gaming—not productivity.
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Serpenh33
11-15-2024, 10:56 PM #3

I understand the long boot times are tolerable, but not being able to access BIOS is what bothers me. I haven’t adjusted RAM settings much. With DOCP it only offers enable/disable choices. Should I investigate further? Is DOCP worth keeping? I own a 4070 super and a 1440p monitor, mainly for gaming—not productivity.

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Nucleoside
Member
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11-15-2024, 10:56 PM
#4
It's probable that your gaming experience will decline when the device is turned off.
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Nucleoside
11-15-2024, 10:56 PM #4

It's probable that your gaming experience will decline when the device is turned off.

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BoyRobbe
Member
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11-15-2024, 10:56 PM
#5
It seems the system is struggling with memory retention and timing consistency. Would you like me to test a different frequency, such as 5200MHz?
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BoyRobbe
11-15-2024, 10:56 PM #5

It seems the system is struggling with memory retention and timing consistency. Would you like me to test a different frequency, such as 5200MHz?