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PC for 20 more years

PC for 20 more years

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FireworkFlare
Junior Member
35
10-27-2024, 08:46 PM
#1
Motherboard: A55BM-K
CPU: A8-6600K
RAM: 16GB DDR3
iGPU: AMD Radeon HD 8570D
dGPU: AMD RX 580 2048SP
Hello. I got a 10 year old PC, and soon enough, it will be time for its retirement. I'd like to preserve this machine though; by doing its maintenance just right, could it last for like, 20/30 more years with occasional use? Just like an old 486 that still works today. I'm not a hardware expert, but I do know I have to replace the thermal pastes after some time, and make sure the machine is not covered in dust. It's in my plans to buy more 8GB DDR3 sticks (the maximum I can find on DDR3) before they get discontinued, a better CPU than this (FM2+ socket, I'm getting an A10-7890K unless I can actually find a PRO A10-8850B), more thermal paste IF it ever gets discontinued (?), and I got some working HDDs stored somewhere. I don't know if should I get another motherboard of the same model before it's too late, just in case.
But what else should I take care of? What kind of parts can die? "Capacitors"? (what are those?) which chips?
For the judgmental people who wonder "why", on the personal side... it's just the best PC I had in my life: Believe it or not I can STILL play many modern games at decent speeds IMHO (I'm CPU bound), there no AMD PSP/Intel ME, and BIOS provides me the necessary switches which means compatibility for old software is completely possible (aside of too much RAM/CPU speed (there's limiters), lack of VESA support from the dedicated GPU (though the integrated GPU works like a charm), and lack of SoundBlaster card (though there's a DOS-based emulator for AC97)). I use Windows 10 everyday, but not long ago I managed to install MS-DOS 7.1, and run Windows 3.11 on it. I bet if I find a diskette drive and necessary adapters I could install MS-DOS 5 and run Windows 1.0 on it.
I'm just not going to find this high level of compatibility on a newer PC.
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FireworkFlare
10-27-2024, 08:46 PM #1

Motherboard: A55BM-K
CPU: A8-6600K
RAM: 16GB DDR3
iGPU: AMD Radeon HD 8570D
dGPU: AMD RX 580 2048SP
Hello. I got a 10 year old PC, and soon enough, it will be time for its retirement. I'd like to preserve this machine though; by doing its maintenance just right, could it last for like, 20/30 more years with occasional use? Just like an old 486 that still works today. I'm not a hardware expert, but I do know I have to replace the thermal pastes after some time, and make sure the machine is not covered in dust. It's in my plans to buy more 8GB DDR3 sticks (the maximum I can find on DDR3) before they get discontinued, a better CPU than this (FM2+ socket, I'm getting an A10-7890K unless I can actually find a PRO A10-8850B), more thermal paste IF it ever gets discontinued (?), and I got some working HDDs stored somewhere. I don't know if should I get another motherboard of the same model before it's too late, just in case.
But what else should I take care of? What kind of parts can die? "Capacitors"? (what are those?) which chips?
For the judgmental people who wonder "why", on the personal side... it's just the best PC I had in my life: Believe it or not I can STILL play many modern games at decent speeds IMHO (I'm CPU bound), there no AMD PSP/Intel ME, and BIOS provides me the necessary switches which means compatibility for old software is completely possible (aside of too much RAM/CPU speed (there's limiters), lack of VESA support from the dedicated GPU (though the integrated GPU works like a charm), and lack of SoundBlaster card (though there's a DOS-based emulator for AC97)). I use Windows 10 everyday, but not long ago I managed to install MS-DOS 7.1, and run Windows 3.11 on it. I bet if I find a diskette drive and necessary adapters I could install MS-DOS 5 and run Windows 1.0 on it.
I'm just not going to find this high level of compatibility on a newer PC.

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gordo_craftr2
Member
200
10-27-2024, 08:46 PM
#2
Could it possibly extend another 20 to 30 years with regular use? I question the chances. It seems unlikely that a PC will survive a decade, let alone two or three decades.
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gordo_craftr2
10-27-2024, 08:46 PM #2

Could it possibly extend another 20 to 30 years with regular use? I question the chances. It seems unlikely that a PC will survive a decade, let alone two or three decades.

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JPP_Miam
Member
108
10-27-2024, 08:46 PM
#3
The hardware should likely function.
However, what capabilities will it have in 20 years?
A system made in 2003 may face difficulties with modern 2023 software, not just games.
In 30 years, a device from 1993 might be completely incompatible with today's programs.
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JPP_Miam
10-27-2024, 08:46 PM #3

The hardware should likely function.
However, what capabilities will it have in 20 years?
A system made in 2003 may face difficulties with modern 2023 software, not just games.
In 30 years, a device from 1993 might be completely incompatible with today's programs.

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Der_Zwieback
Member
148
10-27-2024, 08:46 PM
#4
I believe many people follow similar approaches with their older consoles; it's mainly for nostalgia or personal reasons. For my understanding, there are only a handful of PCs that can handle such a broad software selection (perhaps because I'm a programmer). I don't favor the idea that the newest version is always superior.
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Der_Zwieback
10-27-2024, 08:46 PM #4

I believe many people follow similar approaches with their older consoles; it's mainly for nostalgia or personal reasons. For my understanding, there are only a handful of PCs that can handle such a broad software selection (perhaps because I'm a programmer). I don't favor the idea that the newest version is always superior.

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zArceeus
Junior Member
8
10-27-2024, 08:46 PM
#5
I don’t follow the idea that the newest is always the best. Issues like TLS/SSL versions and browser updates might not work on older machines.
I own a few laptops from the 1998 era, including a Dell Latitude with a massive 2GB hard drive.
Would they still function? Probably yes if I were willing to move them out of the garage.
Connecting to modern websites would be unlikely.
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zArceeus
10-27-2024, 08:46 PM #5

I don’t follow the idea that the newest is always the best. Issues like TLS/SSL versions and browser updates might not work on older machines.
I own a few laptops from the 1998 era, including a Dell Latitude with a massive 2GB hard drive.
Would they still function? Probably yes if I were willing to move them out of the garage.
Connecting to modern websites would be unlikely.

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derFrisson
Junior Member
40
10-27-2024, 08:46 PM
#6
Here are some suggestions for maintaining your setup. As long as you manage your expectations regarding the software (browsers or Windows versions may become outdated), everything should work fine. You might also consider upgrading your PC and using virtualization tools like VMWare Player to run older applications. I’m aware these solutions can effectively support legacy software.

However, if you’re fully committed to this approach, there’s limited room for maintenance beyond what you’ve outlined. Keep the PC in a clean, dry environment away from direct sunlight and carpeted floors. For components, unless you have soldering experience, capacitors are generally safe—just keep spare parts handy in case of failures. When components become outdated, prices on big retailers or online shops can rise significantly; compare these with used options from sites like eBay to save costs. A backup hard drive is strongly advised to protect your data, especially since failure chances increase over time. You might also want to think about replacing the motherboard and power supply after ten years.

Otherwise, you should be all set.
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derFrisson
10-27-2024, 08:46 PM #6

Here are some suggestions for maintaining your setup. As long as you manage your expectations regarding the software (browsers or Windows versions may become outdated), everything should work fine. You might also consider upgrading your PC and using virtualization tools like VMWare Player to run older applications. I’m aware these solutions can effectively support legacy software.

However, if you’re fully committed to this approach, there’s limited room for maintenance beyond what you’ve outlined. Keep the PC in a clean, dry environment away from direct sunlight and carpeted floors. For components, unless you have soldering experience, capacitors are generally safe—just keep spare parts handy in case of failures. When components become outdated, prices on big retailers or online shops can rise significantly; compare these with used options from sites like eBay to save costs. A backup hard drive is strongly advised to protect your data, especially since failure chances increase over time. You might also want to think about replacing the motherboard and power supply after ten years.

Otherwise, you should be all set.

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RB1000
Junior Member
13
10-27-2024, 08:46 PM
#7
There is a relatively new YouTube channel named MikeTech IIRC, who attempts to revive PCs from the late 90's to early 2000's. The typical issues they encounter include oxidation, failing capacitors, and leaking batteries. These hardware limitations will persist as the devices age. If your goal is to maintain this style of operation for nostalgia, it’s advisable to improve your soldering abilities and related skills. The compact design of these boards makes tracing more challenging.
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RB1000
10-27-2024, 08:46 PM #7

There is a relatively new YouTube channel named MikeTech IIRC, who attempts to revive PCs from the late 90's to early 2000's. The typical issues they encounter include oxidation, failing capacitors, and leaking batteries. These hardware limitations will persist as the devices age. If your goal is to maintain this style of operation for nostalgia, it’s advisable to improve your soldering abilities and related skills. The compact design of these boards makes tracing more challenging.

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C_dawg1234
Junior Member
19
10-27-2024, 08:46 PM
#8
Thermal paste will be phased out only when superior alternatives emerge, making it unnecessary to use it. Similar trends are seen with thermal pads, which are becoming increasingly popular and possibly replacing traditional options. Thermal paste typically lasts around five years before it degrades significantly. Researching capacitor leaks on search engines or YouTube can provide insight into various types of capacitors and their failure modes, highlighting inevitable aging over time. Proper storage is crucial for electronics—avoid extreme temperature changes and moisture to prevent mold or rust. Dust poses minimal risk unless it carries high static charge. Long-lasting components like DDR3 sticks and SATA hard drives will remain valuable for years, so they don’t need to be hoarded. You can assemble a basic system using Windows 10 with DOS 5 and Windows 1, then boot directly. Creating a bootable USB drive is also feasible; Rufus can generate a simple image, allowing you to copy files as needed. Information on building a bootable DOS USB can be found at www.howtogeek.com or through FreeDOS documentation on wiki.freedos.org.
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C_dawg1234
10-27-2024, 08:46 PM #8

Thermal paste will be phased out only when superior alternatives emerge, making it unnecessary to use it. Similar trends are seen with thermal pads, which are becoming increasingly popular and possibly replacing traditional options. Thermal paste typically lasts around five years before it degrades significantly. Researching capacitor leaks on search engines or YouTube can provide insight into various types of capacitors and their failure modes, highlighting inevitable aging over time. Proper storage is crucial for electronics—avoid extreme temperature changes and moisture to prevent mold or rust. Dust poses minimal risk unless it carries high static charge. Long-lasting components like DDR3 sticks and SATA hard drives will remain valuable for years, so they don’t need to be hoarded. You can assemble a basic system using Windows 10 with DOS 5 and Windows 1, then boot directly. Creating a bootable USB drive is also feasible; Rufus can generate a simple image, allowing you to copy files as needed. Information on building a bootable DOS USB can be found at www.howtogeek.com or through FreeDOS documentation on wiki.freedos.org.

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catseecoo
Senior Member
662
10-27-2024, 08:46 PM
#9
Adrians digital basement on YT offers excellent solutions for fixing Apple II, Amiga C64, and older DOS systems.
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catseecoo
10-27-2024, 08:46 PM #9

Adrians digital basement on YT offers excellent solutions for fixing Apple II, Amiga C64, and older DOS systems.