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Overkill, but possible depending on your device and port.

Overkill, but possible depending on your device and port.

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Valyrian_
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10-11-2016, 04:24 PM
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Completed installation of Cat6a throughout the residence. Seeking options for 10GbE connectivity to an ITX system already equipped with a GPU, ruling out PCIe. Most reviews for 10GbE over Thunderbolt 3 to RJ45 appear unreliable, though SFP+ devices seem more dependable. I’m open to using a transceiver but would appreciate insights from others who have tested these setups to help decide on the best purchase.
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Valyrian_
10-11-2016, 04:24 PM #1

Completed installation of Cat6a throughout the residence. Seeking options for 10GbE connectivity to an ITX system already equipped with a GPU, ruling out PCIe. Most reviews for 10GbE over Thunderbolt 3 to RJ45 appear unreliable, though SFP+ devices seem more dependable. I’m open to using a transceiver but would appreciate insights from others who have tested these setups to help decide on the best purchase.

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brobear7
Posting Freak
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10-11-2016, 05:06 PM
#2
Do you have a high-speed USB connection available? A 10Gb/s USB port would be suitable. Are you looking for such rapid internet speeds, or is this simply because you have the option? If it's the latter, it's perfectly fine—just a standard Gigabit connection is okay.
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brobear7
10-11-2016, 05:06 PM #2

Do you have a high-speed USB connection available? A 10Gb/s USB port would be suitable. Are you looking for such rapid internet speeds, or is this simply because you have the option? If it's the latter, it's perfectly fine—just a standard Gigabit connection is okay.

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McJoelPlayz
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10-12-2016, 02:08 AM
#3
The available options don't include 10Gbit USB adapters, even if they existed, they would only support one direction at a time with some delays. There are no 5Gbit USB 3.1 Gen 2 devices on the market; the best current ones are Gen 1, capping at 3.6Gbit because of extra requirements. Using high-speed copper transmission consumes significant power, making it unlikely to work over fiber, though it might function over fiber optic cables. I discovered an alternative: if your board has two M.2 slots, you can repurpose one for a PCIe adapter. Things get worse when Windows Update interferes with network speeds, capping performance at 2-3Gbit. On the other end, a machine with a 10Gbit connection only achieves about 7Gbit in the opposite direction. Booting into Linux works fine for both speeds, except for the 5Gbit adapter limitation.
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McJoelPlayz
10-12-2016, 02:08 AM #3

The available options don't include 10Gbit USB adapters, even if they existed, they would only support one direction at a time with some delays. There are no 5Gbit USB 3.1 Gen 2 devices on the market; the best current ones are Gen 1, capping at 3.6Gbit because of extra requirements. Using high-speed copper transmission consumes significant power, making it unlikely to work over fiber, though it might function over fiber optic cables. I discovered an alternative: if your board has two M.2 slots, you can repurpose one for a PCIe adapter. Things get worse when Windows Update interferes with network speeds, capping performance at 2-3Gbit. On the other end, a machine with a 10Gbit connection only achieves about 7Gbit in the opposite direction. Booting into Linux works fine for both speeds, except for the 5Gbit adapter limitation.

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armandorr
Member
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10-12-2016, 06:13 AM
#4
I haven’t completely ruled out the idea of removing an Ethernet cable from that space and swapping it for fiber, though I was hoping for a more straightforward fix without adding another wire. I’m open to testing M.2 adapters and PCIe cards, but would need inventive mounting ideas instead.
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armandorr
10-12-2016, 06:13 AM #4

I haven’t completely ruled out the idea of removing an Ethernet cable from that space and swapping it for fiber, though I was hoping for a more straightforward fix without adding another wire. I’m open to testing M.2 adapters and PCIe cards, but would need inventive mounting ideas instead.

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Symph
Junior Member
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10-12-2016, 12:49 PM
#5
They are available on the market. While they may not support full 10Gbps in both directions at once, for non-server-to-server setups it’s still worth considering.
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Symph
10-12-2016, 12:49 PM #5

They are available on the market. While they may not support full 10Gbps in both directions at once, for non-server-to-server setups it’s still worth considering.

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TheDailyy
Member
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10-12-2016, 06:59 PM
#6
I’ve tried it myself on an Intel NUC and faced no issues with 10Gbps speeds.
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TheDailyy
10-12-2016, 06:59 PM #6

I’ve tried it myself on an Intel NUC and faced no issues with 10Gbps speeds.

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BenTGreat
Senior Member
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10-13-2016, 02:36 PM
#7
Thunderbolt is distinct from USB. I understood the issue was about Thunderbolt, but others kept talking about non-existent USB alternatives. Thunderbolt functions properly since it transmits standard PCIe via a cable.
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BenTGreat
10-13-2016, 02:36 PM #7

Thunderbolt is distinct from USB. I understood the issue was about Thunderbolt, but others kept talking about non-existent USB alternatives. Thunderbolt functions properly since it transmits standard PCIe via a cable.

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DarkBoy__YT
Posting Freak
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10-21-2016, 01:28 AM
#8
I own the CalDigit Tbolt3-to-10Gig device and it functions excellently with my Macbook Pro. I expect it will work similarly on a Windows PC, though I have no prior experience with that platform. It tends to heat up slightly; the whole casing acts as its heat sink. Still, using iperf allows me to achieve 10G speeds through it.
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DarkBoy__YT
10-21-2016, 01:28 AM #8

I own the CalDigit Tbolt3-to-10Gig device and it functions excellently with my Macbook Pro. I expect it will work similarly on a Windows PC, though I have no prior experience with that platform. It tends to heat up slightly; the whole casing acts as its heat sink. Still, using iperf allows me to achieve 10G speeds through it.

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Krompe10
Member
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10-22-2016, 09:01 PM
#9
It appears most people agree they overheat easily, and performance improves with cooling. Perhaps adding a tiny USB fan could help manage the temperature.
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Krompe10
10-22-2016, 09:01 PM #9

It appears most people agree they overheat easily, and performance improves with cooling. Perhaps adding a tiny USB fan could help manage the temperature.

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15969
Member
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10-24-2016, 10:18 AM
#10
They are typically assembled into a single large heatsink, which shouldn't be an issue if you have a solid metal piece. Be cautious with USB fans since they often lack safeguards; a failure could damage the USB controller on the motherboard.
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15969
10-24-2016, 10:18 AM #10

They are typically assembled into a single large heatsink, which shouldn't be an issue if you have a solid metal piece. Be cautious with USB fans since they often lack safeguards; a failure could damage the USB controller on the motherboard.

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