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Overclocking limit reached; can water cooling push me further?

Overclocking limit reached; can water cooling push me further?

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AnnabananaL12
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01-22-2024, 01:25 PM
#1
I've reached the maximum possible with a stock cooler, will water cooling help push the clock speed up? Even if temperature isn't a problem?
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AnnabananaL12
01-22-2024, 01:25 PM #1

I've reached the maximum possible with a stock cooler, will water cooling help push the clock speed up? Even if temperature isn't a problem?

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01-22-2024, 01:25 PM
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Yes, GPUs do have a limit. Even with temperatures managed perfectly, increasing clock speeds and memory overclocking eventually stops improving performance and can even slow things down. For instance, I own a Sapphire R9 290 Tri-X (the card they provided was labeled Tri-X, but it's actually a Vapor-X). I've achieved a stable overclock of up to 1200Mhz for the CPU and 1500Mhz for memory, without any issues. It stays within safe temperatures—around 70°C at 1200Mhz, which is well below the 90°C threshold for R9 Hawaii chips. I don’t use liquid cooling, but my Sapphire card does.
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ReporterElProh
01-22-2024, 01:25 PM #2

Yes, GPUs do have a limit. Even with temperatures managed perfectly, increasing clock speeds and memory overclocking eventually stops improving performance and can even slow things down. For instance, I own a Sapphire R9 290 Tri-X (the card they provided was labeled Tri-X, but it's actually a Vapor-X). I've achieved a stable overclock of up to 1200Mhz for the CPU and 1500Mhz for memory, without any issues. It stays within safe temperatures—around 70°C at 1200Mhz, which is well below the 90°C threshold for R9 Hawaii chips. I don’t use liquid cooling, but my Sapphire card does.

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xFqtal_
Senior Member
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01-22-2024, 01:25 PM
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It really takes a close look to reach the limit. If your main goal is just to get the number posted, you might succeed, but there are several reasons why it’s not worth it. First, adding water cooling for an old card will cost more than it’s worth. Second, your card is almost at the point where further overclocking won’t improve performance much. I own a Sapphire R9 290 Tri-X, which handles a lot of overclocking—I’ve reached 1180 core clock with RAM boosted to 1500, achieving stable results better than the stock model. Now pushing it to 1200Mhz with a 1500Mhz RAM clock works fine and passes tests, but benchmarks show it underperforms at higher speeds like 1800Mhz. So there’s no point in going beyond 1800Mhz, as that’s the processor’s limit. A r6950 needs to be near 965Mhz to approach the wall; upgrading cooling just for a higher overclock won’t give much benefit and could cost you more without gain.
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xFqtal_
01-22-2024, 01:25 PM #3

It really takes a close look to reach the limit. If your main goal is just to get the number posted, you might succeed, but there are several reasons why it’s not worth it. First, adding water cooling for an old card will cost more than it’s worth. Second, your card is almost at the point where further overclocking won’t improve performance much. I own a Sapphire R9 290 Tri-X, which handles a lot of overclocking—I’ve reached 1180 core clock with RAM boosted to 1500, achieving stable results better than the stock model. Now pushing it to 1200Mhz with a 1500Mhz RAM clock works fine and passes tests, but benchmarks show it underperforms at higher speeds like 1800Mhz. So there’s no point in going beyond 1800Mhz, as that’s the processor’s limit. A r6950 needs to be near 965Mhz to approach the wall; upgrading cooling just for a higher overclock won’t give much benefit and could cost you more without gain.

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lurado04
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01-22-2024, 01:25 PM
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It wouldn't justify the cost. Even with a significant speed boost, a GPU from that time would only improve performance by 1-2 FPS in today's games.
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lurado04
01-22-2024, 01:25 PM #4

It wouldn't justify the cost. Even with a significant speed boost, a GPU from that time would only improve performance by 1-2 FPS in today's games.

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daisyandaxel
Junior Member
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01-22-2024, 01:25 PM
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The situation requires a very close approach to the performance limit, often referred to as the "wall." For my current setup, I already have a Sapphire R9 290 Tri-X which handles high overclocks well. I’ve achieved stability with a core clock of 1180 and a RAM speed of 1500, even pushing it to 1200Mhz without issues. However, benchmarks at higher speeds like 1800Mhz show reduced performance. Therefore, going beyond 1800Mhz isn’t necessary for optimal results.

For the R6950, I’m already near the 965Mhz "wall" with a liquid cooling setup. Raising the temperature further won’t significantly improve stability or performance. Lower temperatures from the cooler might actually help, but pushing beyond the current stable range doesn’t seem to unlock better speeds.

Whether GPUs have an inherent ceiling depends on how they manage heat and voltage under stress. In my case, the liquid cooling already brings the system close to its limits, so further overclocking won’t yield meaningful gains.
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daisyandaxel
01-22-2024, 01:25 PM #5

The situation requires a very close approach to the performance limit, often referred to as the "wall." For my current setup, I already have a Sapphire R9 290 Tri-X which handles high overclocks well. I’ve achieved stability with a core clock of 1180 and a RAM speed of 1500, even pushing it to 1200Mhz without issues. However, benchmarks at higher speeds like 1800Mhz show reduced performance. Therefore, going beyond 1800Mhz isn’t necessary for optimal results.

For the R6950, I’m already near the 965Mhz "wall" with a liquid cooling setup. Raising the temperature further won’t significantly improve stability or performance. Lower temperatures from the cooler might actually help, but pushing beyond the current stable range doesn’t seem to unlock better speeds.

Whether GPUs have an inherent ceiling depends on how they manage heat and voltage under stress. In my case, the liquid cooling already brings the system close to its limits, so further overclocking won’t yield meaningful gains.

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Max_Kuz
Member
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01-22-2024, 01:25 PM
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Yes, GPUs do have limits. Even when temperatures stay under control, increasing clock speeds and memory overclocks may stop improving performance and could actually slow things down. For instance, I own a Sapphire R9 290 Tri-X (the one they provided is labeled Tri-X, but it's actually a Vapor-X). I can reach a stable overclock of 1200Mhz for the GPU and 1500Mhz for memory without any issues. It stays within safe temperatures—around 70°C at 1200Mhz, which is well below the 90°C limit for R9 Hawaii chips. Since I don’t use liquid cooling, my Sapphire card relies on strong airflow from three fans and eight 120mm case fans to keep things cool. I also have a solid 1180Mhz overclock with 1500Mhz memory, which remains stable. When I run benchmark tests like Heaven or Firestrike, my scores improve significantly at 1180Mhz compared to 1200Mhz. Even though both settings are stable and temperatures are safe, pushing the R9 290 beyond 1180Mhz actually reduces performance, so it’s best not to go higher than that with this card.
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Max_Kuz
01-22-2024, 01:25 PM #6

Yes, GPUs do have limits. Even when temperatures stay under control, increasing clock speeds and memory overclocks may stop improving performance and could actually slow things down. For instance, I own a Sapphire R9 290 Tri-X (the one they provided is labeled Tri-X, but it's actually a Vapor-X). I can reach a stable overclock of 1200Mhz for the GPU and 1500Mhz for memory without any issues. It stays within safe temperatures—around 70°C at 1200Mhz, which is well below the 90°C limit for R9 Hawaii chips. Since I don’t use liquid cooling, my Sapphire card relies on strong airflow from three fans and eight 120mm case fans to keep things cool. I also have a solid 1180Mhz overclock with 1500Mhz memory, which remains stable. When I run benchmark tests like Heaven or Firestrike, my scores improve significantly at 1180Mhz compared to 1200Mhz. Even though both settings are stable and temperatures are safe, pushing the R9 290 beyond 1180Mhz actually reduces performance, so it’s best not to go higher than that with this card.