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Organizing CPU data into bins

Organizing CPU data into bins

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Ondratra12
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02-12-2016, 03:28 AM
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After completing my initial PC setup, I began considering future upgrades. The ASUS boards offer an SP scoring tool that accurately assesses your processor's V/F performance. It might make sense to purchase 3 to 10 identical CPUs online, test each one in the build, and keep only the highest-scoring unit. Returning or reselling the rest could secure a refund. If full refunds weren't an option, it would likely be the wisest choice since you'd ultimately invest based on performance needs. The main concern is whether the system would allow denial of such a return. If I stick to this method, should I risk rejection or try selling while minimizing losses and using the scores to highlight value?
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Ondratra12
02-12-2016, 03:28 AM #1

After completing my initial PC setup, I began considering future upgrades. The ASUS boards offer an SP scoring tool that accurately assesses your processor's V/F performance. It might make sense to purchase 3 to 10 identical CPUs online, test each one in the build, and keep only the highest-scoring unit. Returning or reselling the rest could secure a refund. If full refunds weren't an option, it would likely be the wisest choice since you'd ultimately invest based on performance needs. The main concern is whether the system would allow denial of such a return. If I stick to this method, should I risk rejection or try selling while minimizing losses and using the scores to highlight value?

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Zegazel
Member
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02-14-2016, 05:41 PM
#2
The processor specifications provided don't always give accurate results; sometimes just reinserting the CPU can significantly alter performance. It's not fair to simply discard it, though that could be better than nothing. Gaining much value isn't likely unless you're aiming for a specific upgrade.
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Zegazel
02-14-2016, 05:41 PM #2

The processor specifications provided don't always give accurate results; sometimes just reinserting the CPU can significantly alter performance. It's not fair to simply discard it, though that could be better than nothing. Gaining much value isn't likely unless you're aiming for a specific upgrade.

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pedro_tkf
Senior Member
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02-15-2016, 03:28 PM
#3
I don't understand NewEgg, but I remember that if you send back or get a refund for too many high-value items to Amazon, your account gets flagged. It's safer to buy in bulk, sort them yourself, and then sell the rest privately. You're doing something similar what Silicon Lottery was trying...but they shut down. https://siliconlottery.com/ Like @svmlegacy said, the actual details aren't 100% reliable. You should still manually check how it works to see what's really happening.
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pedro_tkf
02-15-2016, 03:28 PM #3

I don't understand NewEgg, but I remember that if you send back or get a refund for too many high-value items to Amazon, your account gets flagged. It's safer to buy in bulk, sort them yourself, and then sell the rest privately. You're doing something similar what Silicon Lottery was trying...but they shut down. https://siliconlottery.com/ Like @svmlegacy said, the actual details aren't 100% reliable. You should still manually check how it works to see what's really happening.

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JPX_
Junior Member
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02-16-2016, 06:25 PM
#4
Makes sense, but in my situation re-seating the CPU doesn’t change the result. It feels like if I really need to go the extra mile, using some special cooling would be the best choice. The thought of having to swap out so many CPUs makes me feel uneasy.
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JPX_
02-16-2016, 06:25 PM #4

Makes sense, but in my situation re-seating the CPU doesn’t change the result. It feels like if I really need to go the extra mile, using some special cooling would be the best choice. The thought of having to swap out so many CPUs makes me feel uneasy.

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iKegreenS_
Posting Freak
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02-18-2016, 04:44 AM
#5
It would be fascinating to attempt once you gain more practice with overclocking.
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iKegreenS_
02-18-2016, 04:44 AM #5

It would be fascinating to attempt once you gain more practice with overclocking.

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EdenMarie
Member
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02-18-2016, 06:19 AM
#6
Consider that a 'golden' XOC chip doesn't consistently excel in all conditions. The performance ranking isn't straightforward, meaning the SP score won't guarantee a perfect result for your needs.
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EdenMarie
02-18-2016, 06:19 AM #6

Consider that a 'golden' XOC chip doesn't consistently excel in all conditions. The performance ranking isn't straightforward, meaning the SP score won't guarantee a perfect result for your needs.

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Destruct1
Member
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02-18-2016, 07:17 AM
#7
This topic isn't for everyday users since CPU OC is already outdated. You won't instantly achieve a 5.5G all-core setup on a high-end board either; cooling and quality samples are still essential. For better performance, consider upgrading RAM or GPU memory—both can be tricky due to timing issues that cause crashes. A small improvement of 5-7% is possible, but you'll likely need dual-channel configurations (like 4x8 or dual-sided 2x16) and a solid cooling solution. A mid-range option might be around 4000-4200 CL16/17, though the thermal design will be tight.

If you're on something like a Micron Rev E, it's possible to get stable performance without major upgrades. However, the cost of a high-quality PCB with a 8Gb rev E or similar could be double the price.

Unless you're serious about this, it's best to skip it. RAM OC is already problematic (my 1520 DDR2 took days to stabilize due to crashes), and GPU OC is usually the easiest but offers minimal gains compared to the expense.

Focus on simpler solutions first—MSI Afterburner, power limits, and gradual tweaks with stress tests. Performance improvements will be limited, but the process is straightforward and safe.
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Destruct1
02-18-2016, 07:17 AM #7

This topic isn't for everyday users since CPU OC is already outdated. You won't instantly achieve a 5.5G all-core setup on a high-end board either; cooling and quality samples are still essential. For better performance, consider upgrading RAM or GPU memory—both can be tricky due to timing issues that cause crashes. A small improvement of 5-7% is possible, but you'll likely need dual-channel configurations (like 4x8 or dual-sided 2x16) and a solid cooling solution. A mid-range option might be around 4000-4200 CL16/17, though the thermal design will be tight.

If you're on something like a Micron Rev E, it's possible to get stable performance without major upgrades. However, the cost of a high-quality PCB with a 8Gb rev E or similar could be double the price.

Unless you're serious about this, it's best to skip it. RAM OC is already problematic (my 1520 DDR2 took days to stabilize due to crashes), and GPU OC is usually the easiest but offers minimal gains compared to the expense.

Focus on simpler solutions first—MSI Afterburner, power limits, and gradual tweaks with stress tests. Performance improvements will be limited, but the process is straightforward and safe.

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dopeeful
Member
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02-23-2016, 10:15 PM
#8
Not fully optimized. You can still adjust for better performance. The default settings aren’t ideal. AMD adds about 200MHz, but results vary among users.
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dopeeful
02-23-2016, 10:15 PM #8

Not fully optimized. You can still adjust for better performance. The default settings aren’t ideal. AMD adds about 200MHz, but results vary among users.

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JPV12Vanquish
Member
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03-02-2016, 06:37 AM
#9
Generally it's more about power efficiency than anything else. You can save 20-50 watts simply by undervolting, especially on Intel chips where the boards tend to overvolt the CPU. Trying to detune the CPU by 100-200 MHz to run at 1.2V or less instead of 1.3V can improve voltage-to-flux ratio and save power. Peak performance will be limited—expect around 500 MHz from 1.2 to 1.5 volts (5 GHz → 5.5 GHz). Cooling is crucial, and a robust cooling solution might be needed if you go that low.
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JPV12Vanquish
03-02-2016, 06:37 AM #9

Generally it's more about power efficiency than anything else. You can save 20-50 watts simply by undervolting, especially on Intel chips where the boards tend to overvolt the CPU. Trying to detune the CPU by 100-200 MHz to run at 1.2V or less instead of 1.3V can improve voltage-to-flux ratio and save power. Peak performance will be limited—expect around 500 MHz from 1.2 to 1.5 volts (5 GHz → 5.5 GHz). Cooling is crucial, and a robust cooling solution might be needed if you go that low.

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mineuout482
Posting Freak
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03-06-2016, 12:53 PM
#10
I’m not using Intel at the moment. Still, my 5900X reaches 5150 without any issues.
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mineuout482
03-06-2016, 12:53 PM #10

I’m not using Intel at the moment. Still, my 5900X reaches 5150 without any issues.