F5F Stay Refreshed Hardware Desktop Optimized for the i3 14100 processor.

Optimized for the i3 14100 processor.

Optimized for the i3 14100 processor.

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Gatenho
Junior Member
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11-23-2021, 03:28 PM
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The Asrock Z690 PG Riptide supports DDR4 4 GB/s. With a 14GB RAM module, you can upgrade to something other than the 3200/3600 MHz CL16 configuration. A 64 GB option around 125 euros is available, though it’s limited to 3200 MHz CL16. A 32 GB at 100 euros would be reasonable.
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Gatenho
11-23-2021, 03:28 PM #1

The Asrock Z690 PG Riptide supports DDR4 4 GB/s. With a 14GB RAM module, you can upgrade to something other than the 3200/3600 MHz CL16 configuration. A 64 GB option around 125 euros is available, though it’s limited to 3200 MHz CL16. A 32 GB at 100 euros would be reasonable.

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Avambo
Junior Member
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11-30-2021, 05:41 PM
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Whatever the most affordable 3200/3600 package you locate, any faster option doesn’t really fit the picture for several reasons. First, you’re running a 14100F, which isn’t fast enough to fully benefit from higher speeds. Second, speeds above 3600 usually place you in Gear 2, where memory performance drops noticeably. By around 4600 you recover much of the lost speed, but then you might hit issues with XMP support, making it less appealing overall. In practice, these kits still tend to be more expensive than cheaper 3200 models. The 3600 speed is likely your best bet with a 14100F, and the gap between 3600 and 3200 isn’t significant enough to justify the extra cost unless you’re in a specific region. Since I don’t know your location, I’m focusing on German prices, which tend to reflect broader European trends. In Germany, for example, a 2x16GB 3200 CL16 kit is available for about 48 euros—this would be my choice.
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Avambo
11-30-2021, 05:41 PM #2

Whatever the most affordable 3200/3600 package you locate, any faster option doesn’t really fit the picture for several reasons. First, you’re running a 14100F, which isn’t fast enough to fully benefit from higher speeds. Second, speeds above 3600 usually place you in Gear 2, where memory performance drops noticeably. By around 4600 you recover much of the lost speed, but then you might hit issues with XMP support, making it less appealing overall. In practice, these kits still tend to be more expensive than cheaper 3200 models. The 3600 speed is likely your best bet with a 14100F, and the gap between 3600 and 3200 isn’t significant enough to justify the extra cost unless you’re in a specific region. Since I don’t know your location, I’m focusing on German prices, which tend to reflect broader European trends. In Germany, for example, a 2x16GB 3200 CL16 kit is available for about 48 euros—this would be my choice.

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Lilghost234
Junior Member
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12-08-2021, 09:27 AM
#3
Consider high-speed RAM that works smoothly at 4000MHz or above. If it struggles beyond that, it can still function at 3600MHz CL16. Finding a more recent CPU with better support will likely improve performance. Options like G.Skill Ripjaws V could work well in this scenario.
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Lilghost234
12-08-2021, 09:27 AM #3

Consider high-speed RAM that works smoothly at 4000MHz or above. If it struggles beyond that, it can still function at 3600MHz CL16. Finding a more recent CPU with better support will likely improve performance. Options like G.Skill Ripjaws V could work well in this scenario.

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Trillex07
Member
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12-08-2021, 11:09 AM
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I mean, yes but at that stage you're paying more than necessary for something you won't use. It doesn't really add value. This only raises more doubts. What CPU are you actually seeking? Unless you're after a low-end model, you won't reach beyond 3600 in Gear 1 and the limit is typically around 4000MT/s (the exact number varies by CPU, but most handle 4000). A faster setup than 4000 isn't worth it unless you're targeting 10th generation Intel. The point is though, you'd still be paying for RAM you won't use much, so that extra ~$50 would be better spent on a quicker CPU upfront. Those processors gain more from faster RAM, although if you just want the 14100 now and upgrade later, DDR5 generally offers better performance (even budget DDR5 usually beats higher-end DDR4). By the time you're spending about 100 euros on a 32GB unit, you can find a decent DDR5 package if you haven't already purchased the motherboard. The main consideration is that DDR5 is being phased out now. The only exceptions are very basic models where 3200 CL16 still works well, and for anything else it's safer to switch to DDR5 overall.
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Trillex07
12-08-2021, 11:09 AM #4

I mean, yes but at that stage you're paying more than necessary for something you won't use. It doesn't really add value. This only raises more doubts. What CPU are you actually seeking? Unless you're after a low-end model, you won't reach beyond 3600 in Gear 1 and the limit is typically around 4000MT/s (the exact number varies by CPU, but most handle 4000). A faster setup than 4000 isn't worth it unless you're targeting 10th generation Intel. The point is though, you'd still be paying for RAM you won't use much, so that extra ~$50 would be better spent on a quicker CPU upfront. Those processors gain more from faster RAM, although if you just want the 14100 now and upgrade later, DDR5 generally offers better performance (even budget DDR5 usually beats higher-end DDR4). By the time you're spending about 100 euros on a 32GB unit, you can find a decent DDR5 package if you haven't already purchased the motherboard. The main consideration is that DDR5 is being phased out now. The only exceptions are very basic models where 3200 CL16 still works well, and for anything else it's safer to switch to DDR5 overall.

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Alpacas_FTW
Member
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12-08-2021, 09:04 PM
#5
I noticed when I purchased the MB that I didn’t check whether it was DDR4 or DDR5. Choosing a DDR5 model is slightly pricier, and if I had selected one I’d opt for maximum speed. It’s hard to tell without knowing the specifics of Ryzen or Intel chips—DDR4 or DDR5 doesn’t really matter much unless you have a powerful processor like an i9 or 5800X3D in games. A fast PC with a good GPU and at least 32GB RAM is what matters most, not the memory type.
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Alpacas_FTW
12-08-2021, 09:04 PM #5

I noticed when I purchased the MB that I didn’t check whether it was DDR4 or DDR5. Choosing a DDR5 model is slightly pricier, and if I had selected one I’d opt for maximum speed. It’s hard to tell without knowing the specifics of Ryzen or Intel chips—DDR4 or DDR5 doesn’t really matter much unless you have a powerful processor like an i9 or 5800X3D in games. A fast PC with a good GPU and at least 32GB RAM is what matters most, not the memory type.

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ThatOneGuy14
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12-11-2021, 11:45 AM
#6
For a future CPU upgrade, consider pairing it with faster RAM.
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ThatOneGuy14
12-11-2021, 11:45 AM #6

For a future CPU upgrade, consider pairing it with faster RAM.

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Mackonaut
Member
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12-18-2021, 10:45 PM
#7
the gap isn't just $50 or €40-45 for 32gb 3200mhz cl16 it's around 60 euros and 32gb 4000mhz cl18 it's €80-85 there are many faster RAM options on the market 3200mhz cl14 plus non-mushkin boosters for about 200 euros i wanted a high-speed RAM but chose a more affordable option if I need 64gb i checked other G.Skill models and they offered CAS Latency 16-18-18-38 on DDR4-3200-32gb-cl16 so I went with a pair of G.Skill AEGIS DDR4-3200-32gb-cl16
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Mackonaut
12-18-2021, 10:45 PM #7

the gap isn't just $50 or €40-45 for 32gb 3200mhz cl16 it's around 60 euros and 32gb 4000mhz cl18 it's €80-85 there are many faster RAM options on the market 3200mhz cl14 plus non-mushkin boosters for about 200 euros i wanted a high-speed RAM but chose a more affordable option if I need 64gb i checked other G.Skill models and they offered CAS Latency 16-18-18-38 on DDR4-3200-32gb-cl16 so I went with a pair of G.Skill AEGIS DDR4-3200-32gb-cl16

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seth1j
Member
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12-19-2021, 12:44 AM
#8
I picked a z, b so everything would be unlocked. With a k CPU and 13 Phase Dr.MOS Power Design, the ASRock Graphics Card Holder adds some nice upgrades. The cards 14400f, 12600k (f), 12700k(f), 12900k(f) cost around 200 euros but aren't very power efficient. They look good with PCIe 5.0 support, BIOS flashback, SPDIF, and all settings are unlocked. Another thought: if I have 32 GB RAM and 4 cores, it's either 8 GB or 8 threads—about 4 threads per core. If I had a 4-core 8-thread CPU, how much RAM can it actually use before hitting limits? I'm curious about the link between CPU power and RAM usage. If you need 128 GB of RAM, it doesn't make sense to have an i3, and an i9 wouldn't be ideal with only 16 GB unless it's a specific situation.
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seth1j
12-19-2021, 12:44 AM #8

I picked a z, b so everything would be unlocked. With a k CPU and 13 Phase Dr.MOS Power Design, the ASRock Graphics Card Holder adds some nice upgrades. The cards 14400f, 12600k (f), 12700k(f), 12900k(f) cost around 200 euros but aren't very power efficient. They look good with PCIe 5.0 support, BIOS flashback, SPDIF, and all settings are unlocked. Another thought: if I have 32 GB RAM and 4 cores, it's either 8 GB or 8 threads—about 4 threads per core. If I had a 4-core 8-thread CPU, how much RAM can it actually use before hitting limits? I'm curious about the link between CPU power and RAM usage. If you need 128 GB of RAM, it doesn't make sense to have an i3, and an i9 wouldn't be ideal with only 16 GB unless it's a specific situation.

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Seba9999_
Member
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12-23-2021, 07:50 PM
#9
14600kf is priced at $220 on Amazon. For a high-end GPU, this should cover your needs.
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Seba9999_
12-23-2021, 07:50 PM #9

14600kf is priced at $220 on Amazon. For a high-end GPU, this should cover your needs.

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ylyes4
Senior Member
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12-23-2021, 08:50 PM
#10
Around 200 euros for my location, it's decent. A quick clip comparing the i5-14600KF and 12900KF shows they perform comparably to the 12900KF in games, making the 14600KF a solid alternative.
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ylyes4
12-23-2021, 08:50 PM #10

Around 200 euros for my location, it's decent. A quick clip comparing the i5-14600KF and 12900KF shows they perform comparably to the 12900KF in games, making the 14600KF a solid alternative.

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