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Mr_Gloku
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06-29-2016, 03:11 PM
#1
Hi, I understand your setup with the KT7A-Raid and the 1GHz Thunderbird CPU. The motherboard supports only PCI+ISA, USB1, and four IDE ports. You're looking to boost I/O speeds by adding more USB2 ports and possibly an SSD for faster random access. Since PCI maxes around 266MBps, you might still find value in upgrading to a PCIe card that includes USB2 ports and SATA interfaces. It’s tough to find compatible PCI cards anymore, but an adapter could work if you're willing to experiment. I’ve seen IDE-to-SATA adapters fail, so stability is key. An NVMe SSD adapter might be a better long-term solution for performance. What are your thoughts on these ideas?
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Mr_Gloku
06-29-2016, 03:11 PM #1

Hi, I understand your setup with the KT7A-Raid and the 1GHz Thunderbird CPU. The motherboard supports only PCI+ISA, USB1, and four IDE ports. You're looking to boost I/O speeds by adding more USB2 ports and possibly an SSD for faster random access. Since PCI maxes around 266MBps, you might still find value in upgrading to a PCIe card that includes USB2 ports and SATA interfaces. It’s tough to find compatible PCI cards anymore, but an adapter could work if you're willing to experiment. I’ve seen IDE-to-SATA adapters fail, so stability is key. An NVMe SSD adapter might be a better long-term solution for performance. What are your thoughts on these ideas?

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guguis_3000
Member
145
07-02-2016, 01:26 AM
#2
Great display! It seems PCI NVME isn't really feasible here—the chances of it working are low due to the different handling of PCI and PCIE on this board. I’d suggest using a USB 2.0 PCI card along with a SATA PCI card; they’re definitely available.
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guguis_3000
07-02-2016, 01:26 AM #2

Great display! It seems PCI NVME isn't really feasible here—the chances of it working are low due to the different handling of PCI and PCIE on this board. I’d suggest using a USB 2.0 PCI card along with a SATA PCI card; they’re definitely available.

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SuperGlasses
Member
57
07-03-2016, 03:17 PM
#3
I'm unfamiliar with combination USB 2.0 and SATA PCI cards, though each is available separately. For dual PCI slots, consider a USB 2.0 card, a SATA card, and a refurbished SATA SSD. If your motherboard lacks 48-bit LBA support, storage limits will be around 137 GB per drive. A 128 GB M.2 SSD in an mSATA to IDE adapter would suit upgrading storage without occupying a slot.
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SuperGlasses
07-03-2016, 03:17 PM #3

I'm unfamiliar with combination USB 2.0 and SATA PCI cards, though each is available separately. For dual PCI slots, consider a USB 2.0 card, a SATA card, and a refurbished SATA SSD. If your motherboard lacks 48-bit LBA support, storage limits will be around 137 GB per drive. A 128 GB M.2 SSD in an mSATA to IDE adapter would suit upgrading storage without occupying a slot.

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CuzIm100ms
Member
127
07-11-2016, 01:24 AM
#4
PCI reaches its limit at 133 MB/s (33 MHz x 32 bits = roughly 132 MB). The speed is divided among all PCI connections. This setup works best with a Windows 7 system, possibly Windows XP; you might need to purchase cards that still support older OS versions. It seems you can install PCI-X cards in at least three PCI slots, typically used for servers. PCI-X expands PCI to allow 64-bit transfers instead of 32-bit, supporting speeds over 66 MHz, but most cards revert to 32-bit in standard slots and remain functional. You can locate numerous SATA 2 PCI-X controller cards on eBay and similar sites, offering quality chips that outperform basic via-based controllers. For instance, the $15 3ware 9550sxu - 3Ware 9550SXU-4LP PCI-X SATA II (3.0Gb/s) RAID Controller Card is compatible with Windows 2003, 2008, and 7 (with updated firmware). Spending around $15 could be a waste if you try it in a regular PCI slot. Regarding USB, it’s hard to say much—searching may lead you to PCI eUSB adapters instead of VIA, which tends to have more issues. However, finding a suitable card will likely require some effort. For further details, see the note about PCI 3.3v slots and compatibility.
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CuzIm100ms
07-11-2016, 01:24 AM #4

PCI reaches its limit at 133 MB/s (33 MHz x 32 bits = roughly 132 MB). The speed is divided among all PCI connections. This setup works best with a Windows 7 system, possibly Windows XP; you might need to purchase cards that still support older OS versions. It seems you can install PCI-X cards in at least three PCI slots, typically used for servers. PCI-X expands PCI to allow 64-bit transfers instead of 32-bit, supporting speeds over 66 MHz, but most cards revert to 32-bit in standard slots and remain functional. You can locate numerous SATA 2 PCI-X controller cards on eBay and similar sites, offering quality chips that outperform basic via-based controllers. For instance, the $15 3ware 9550sxu - 3Ware 9550SXU-4LP PCI-X SATA II (3.0Gb/s) RAID Controller Card is compatible with Windows 2003, 2008, and 7 (with updated firmware). Spending around $15 could be a waste if you try it in a regular PCI slot. Regarding USB, it’s hard to say much—searching may lead you to PCI eUSB adapters instead of VIA, which tends to have more issues. However, finding a suitable card will likely require some effort. For further details, see the note about PCI 3.3v slots and compatibility.

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bb0yth0r
Junior Member
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07-13-2016, 12:42 AM
#5
Remember to consider the AGP port for graphics; affordable quality cards are usually available there.
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bb0yth0r
07-13-2016, 12:42 AM #5

Remember to consider the AGP port for graphics; affordable quality cards are usually available there.

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agantscerect
Junior Member
25
07-13-2016, 02:24 AM
#6
I own a GeForce 2 GTX, a 1GB network card, and a sound card. The board seems quite challenging to post now; it likely needs some updates before we try the suggested steps. Appreciate the support so far—the motherboard has room for 64-bit cards, so I’ll check that once posting works again.
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agantscerect
07-13-2016, 02:24 AM #6

I own a GeForce 2 GTX, a 1GB network card, and a sound card. The board seems quite challenging to post now; it likely needs some updates before we try the suggested steps. Appreciate the support so far—the motherboard has room for 64-bit cards, so I’ll check that once posting works again.

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Filleback
Junior Member
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07-13-2016, 03:52 AM
#7
The card's length doesn't determine its 64-bit capability—just a note. In reality, the whole system is limited to 32-bit, making it irrelevant whether the card itself could handle more. You already have a GF2 GTS; try it out and see how it performs with whatever tasks you need.
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Filleback
07-13-2016, 03:52 AM #7

The card's length doesn't determine its 64-bit capability—just a note. In reality, the whole system is limited to 32-bit, making it irrelevant whether the card itself could handle more. You already have a GF2 GTS; try it out and see how it performs with whatever tasks you need.

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ThePonyQueen
Member
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07-16-2016, 05:58 AM
#8
I recommended PCI-X cards for several reasons: first, they tend to be less popular, which means lower prices due to reduced demand. Second, they often come with superior controllers and better drivers—generic PCI SATA solutions usually feature cheaper VIA or JMicron chips, or perhaps AsMedia if you're lucky. Additionally, newer adapters frequently include PCI-to-PCI-E bridge chips, followed by affordable PCI-E x1 2-port SATA controllers from brands like AsMedia. Using a PCI-to-PCI-E bridge can sometimes lead to issues such as boot failures. The main concern about speed is minimal since most CPUs on these boards aren't powerful enough to require more than 100 MB/s read/write. They also offer better compatibility with larger drives; for instance, the HighPoint card linked supports drives over 2 TB and supports NCQ. Some standard PCI adapters may not support both 32-bit and 64-bit modes. The 64-bit designation isn't tied to CPU architecture or OS version—it relates to how many bits move through the PCI/PCI-X bus per cycle, which can range from 33.3 MHz to 133 MHz depending on the controller and firmware. Therefore, it's possible to run a 32-bit processor with a 64-bit card if the hardware allows it.
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ThePonyQueen
07-16-2016, 05:58 AM #8

I recommended PCI-X cards for several reasons: first, they tend to be less popular, which means lower prices due to reduced demand. Second, they often come with superior controllers and better drivers—generic PCI SATA solutions usually feature cheaper VIA or JMicron chips, or perhaps AsMedia if you're lucky. Additionally, newer adapters frequently include PCI-to-PCI-E bridge chips, followed by affordable PCI-E x1 2-port SATA controllers from brands like AsMedia. Using a PCI-to-PCI-E bridge can sometimes lead to issues such as boot failures. The main concern about speed is minimal since most CPUs on these boards aren't powerful enough to require more than 100 MB/s read/write. They also offer better compatibility with larger drives; for instance, the HighPoint card linked supports drives over 2 TB and supports NCQ. Some standard PCI adapters may not support both 32-bit and 64-bit modes. The 64-bit designation isn't tied to CPU architecture or OS version—it relates to how many bits move through the PCI/PCI-X bus per cycle, which can range from 33.3 MHz to 133 MHz depending on the controller and firmware. Therefore, it's possible to run a 32-bit processor with a 64-bit card if the hardware allows it.

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_cTJ_
Junior Member
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07-16-2016, 07:50 AM
#9
I understand the context you're referring to. It seems there was some confusion about the motherboard's capabilities and bit width. The statement mentioned a need to clarify the system's bit capacity rather than spreading misinformation. Regarding bus width and 64-bit support, a 32-bit CPU should work fine, as most Socket A chips are designed for that, even older models like the Duron Spitfire can handle it too.
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_cTJ_
07-16-2016, 07:50 AM #9

I understand the context you're referring to. It seems there was some confusion about the motherboard's capabilities and bit width. The statement mentioned a need to clarify the system's bit capacity rather than spreading misinformation. Regarding bus width and 64-bit support, a 32-bit CPU should work fine, as most Socket A chips are designed for that, even older models like the Duron Spitfire can handle it too.

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tonylaflem
Member
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07-24-2016, 03:30 AM
#10
Isn't it similar to using a 16x PCIe-E card in an 8x slot (assuming same generation)? I've upgraded several IDE-based laptops using PCIe M.2 adapters, which made a noticeable improvement. However, this setup forces the system to run at full CPU capacity whenever the drive is active, though it still outperforms older IDE drives significantly. Since performance is limited by the 32-bit PCIe bandwidth, I'm considering skipping internal storage altogether. Instead of booting locally, I could network boot a remote operating system if possible. The 1GB network card should match or exceed the speed of any SATA connection in this setup, with only minor delays. It would be worthwhile to explore all options and compare them through testing.
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tonylaflem
07-24-2016, 03:30 AM #10

Isn't it similar to using a 16x PCIe-E card in an 8x slot (assuming same generation)? I've upgraded several IDE-based laptops using PCIe M.2 adapters, which made a noticeable improvement. However, this setup forces the system to run at full CPU capacity whenever the drive is active, though it still outperforms older IDE drives significantly. Since performance is limited by the 32-bit PCIe bandwidth, I'm considering skipping internal storage altogether. Instead of booting locally, I could network boot a remote operating system if possible. The 1GB network card should match or exceed the speed of any SATA connection in this setup, with only minor delays. It would be worthwhile to explore all options and compare them through testing.

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