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No, you cannot permanently set a non-K CPU to run at single-core turbo across all cores using Wrmsr on Linux.

No, you cannot permanently set a non-K CPU to run at single-core turbo across all cores using Wrmsr on Linux.

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MotasElToasty
Junior Member
30
05-25-2016, 07:11 PM
#1
I'm using a Dell Precision M4500 laptop with an Intel Core i7-740QM chip. Sometimes the processor speed feels lower than expected, even though it's running at base speeds or barely turboing. I checked forums and prebuilt communities but didn’t get any replies, so I’m reaching out here because this model seems more active. Through research, I learned that non-K CPUs can't be overclocked due to hardware restrictions on the clock multiplier speed. Changing the motherboard's clock input could cause more issues than help and might not work with my board. On the other hand, some say CPU speeds are mostly set by software, so I might be able to override the default turbo settings through the OS. I’ve also heard that maximum frequencies are just guidelines set inside the chip, not strict hard limits. If this is true, even if it’s technically outside spec, I might be able to push my CPU beyond its rated numbers—like boosting single-core speeds. According to cpupower, the reported frequency is 2.93 GHz, which is much higher than the base clock of 1.73 GHz.

If that’s accurate, can I still try to force turbo beyond what the chip allows? I’m unsure how to do it safely and without damaging my system. My laptop already runs hot—around 80°C—and the CPU maxes out near 100°C. That leaves a small margin. Do I really need extra cooling? If so, would adding a desktop cooler be feasible? Since my board uses PGA988, it might support a standard cooler, but the mobile-only socket suggests it’s not designed for that. Installing a cooler on a laptop motherboard could work, though contact quality matters. Alternatives like using foil or pipes are possible, but I’m not sure they’d be effective enough. Changing the fan to the 19V supply instead of the 12V connector is another option, but it might affect stability.

What’s stopping me from trying this? Lack of clear instructions and uncertainty about risks. Should I proceed cautiously or avoid it altogether?
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MotasElToasty
05-25-2016, 07:11 PM #1

I'm using a Dell Precision M4500 laptop with an Intel Core i7-740QM chip. Sometimes the processor speed feels lower than expected, even though it's running at base speeds or barely turboing. I checked forums and prebuilt communities but didn’t get any replies, so I’m reaching out here because this model seems more active. Through research, I learned that non-K CPUs can't be overclocked due to hardware restrictions on the clock multiplier speed. Changing the motherboard's clock input could cause more issues than help and might not work with my board. On the other hand, some say CPU speeds are mostly set by software, so I might be able to override the default turbo settings through the OS. I’ve also heard that maximum frequencies are just guidelines set inside the chip, not strict hard limits. If this is true, even if it’s technically outside spec, I might be able to push my CPU beyond its rated numbers—like boosting single-core speeds. According to cpupower, the reported frequency is 2.93 GHz, which is much higher than the base clock of 1.73 GHz.

If that’s accurate, can I still try to force turbo beyond what the chip allows? I’m unsure how to do it safely and without damaging my system. My laptop already runs hot—around 80°C—and the CPU maxes out near 100°C. That leaves a small margin. Do I really need extra cooling? If so, would adding a desktop cooler be feasible? Since my board uses PGA988, it might support a standard cooler, but the mobile-only socket suggests it’s not designed for that. Installing a cooler on a laptop motherboard could work, though contact quality matters. Alternatives like using foil or pipes are possible, but I’m not sure they’d be effective enough. Changing the fan to the 19V supply instead of the 12V connector is another option, but it might affect stability.

What’s stopping me from trying this? Lack of clear instructions and uncertainty about risks. Should I proceed cautiously or avoid it altogether?

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Likaelios
Junior Member
27
06-06-2016, 03:48 AM
#2
The 740QM features a secured multiplier. Numerous attempts have been made, yet no solution has been discovered. Consider purchasing a 920XM 940XM on Ebay. These Extreme CPUs offer unlocked multipliers and increased turbo capabilities. Other models lack these features.
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Likaelios
06-06-2016, 03:48 AM #2

The 740QM features a secured multiplier. Numerous attempts have been made, yet no solution has been discovered. Consider purchasing a 920XM 940XM on Ebay. These Extreme CPUs offer unlocked multipliers and increased turbo capabilities. Other models lack these features.

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06-06-2016, 03:59 AM
#3
If I can't make it turbo beyond what it's supposed to, is there a way to at least make it turbo the way that it is supposed to? It seems like it really does not want to go above base. Also, why the fuck are 920XMs going for $50 and 940XMs going for $100? They're 10 years old. If I absolutely must spend money (thanks Intel), I'd rather get a more recent laptop than spend more money on this one, especially since I'll have to replace the entire laptop when I go to college anyways.
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Pixelplayer145
06-06-2016, 03:59 AM #3

If I can't make it turbo beyond what it's supposed to, is there a way to at least make it turbo the way that it is supposed to? It seems like it really does not want to go above base. Also, why the fuck are 920XMs going for $50 and 940XMs going for $100? They're 10 years old. If I absolutely must spend money (thanks Intel), I'd rather get a more recent laptop than spend more money on this one, especially since I'll have to replace the entire laptop when I go to college anyways.

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LOLWHYUSOSAD
Member
52
06-07-2016, 02:03 AM
#4
The 740QM features a 45W TDP rating. Intel set the turbo power cap at 45W, ensuring boost is turned off during demanding tasks. Multiplier settings range from 1 Core Active to 4 Cores Active, with Turbo Boost disabled in certain configurations. While marketing highlighted high MHz figures, real performance remains modest under typical workloads. This aligns with Intel’s design goals. At peak performance, the 920XM outperforms the 740QM by nearly 100%, justifying its premium price. Power restrictions are fully accessible for customization to prevent throttling. The first-generation XM line stood out as one of the most powerful in its class compared to earlier models like the 720QM and 740QM.
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LOLWHYUSOSAD
06-07-2016, 02:03 AM #4

The 740QM features a 45W TDP rating. Intel set the turbo power cap at 45W, ensuring boost is turned off during demanding tasks. Multiplier settings range from 1 Core Active to 4 Cores Active, with Turbo Boost disabled in certain configurations. While marketing highlighted high MHz figures, real performance remains modest under typical workloads. This aligns with Intel’s design goals. At peak performance, the 920XM outperforms the 740QM by nearly 100%, justifying its premium price. Power restrictions are fully accessible for customization to prevent throttling. The first-generation XM line stood out as one of the most powerful in its class compared to earlier models like the 720QM and 740QM.

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wolfboy03
Junior Member
40
06-08-2016, 06:07 AM
#5
The definition of "stressful" varies by system and workload. It often involves pushing a processor beyond its normal limits, especially under heavy single-threaded tasks or when other cores are running at minimum speeds. At the price point you mentioned, performance is still quite limited compared to newer chips, which makes it feel even more constrained. The changes in artificial limits suggest manufacturers are trying to maximize what users can get from existing hardware, but this can lead to instability or reduced reliability. Understanding how power limits are enforced and whether they can be bypassed is crucial for assessing long-term usability.
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wolfboy03
06-08-2016, 06:07 AM #5

The definition of "stressful" varies by system and workload. It often involves pushing a processor beyond its normal limits, especially under heavy single-threaded tasks or when other cores are running at minimum speeds. At the price point you mentioned, performance is still quite limited compared to newer chips, which makes it feel even more constrained. The changes in artificial limits suggest manufacturers are trying to maximize what users can get from existing hardware, but this can lead to instability or reduced reliability. Understanding how power limits are enforced and whether they can be bypassed is crucial for assessing long-term usability.

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TMayes136
Member
142
06-09-2016, 01:32 AM
#6
The 740QM is a secured processor which fixes turbo limits. Intel successfully restricted these chips to push buyers toward purchasing one of their high-end models (920XM). Intel’s second-generation and newer Core i CPUs differ in power control settings from the first-gen 740QM. MSR_TURBO_POWER_CURRENT_LIMIT holds two values: TDP and TDC, as described in public guides. TDP represents the maximum power draw managed by Intel Turbo Boost, while TDC indicates the current cap. Similar to turbo restrictions, this setting remains fixed in the 740QM. Unlocking these limits occurs only in Extreme processors. This significantly impacts performance when the CPU is under heavy load. The measured consumption isn’t actual watts—it’s an internal estimate used to regulate turbo functionality. It appears software developers haven’t exposed this data for first-gen Core i CPUs, restricting access to later models. Many tracking tools give inaccurate speed readings during Turbo Boost. Consider using ThrottleStop for precise monitoring. https://www.techpowerup.com/download/tec...ottlestop/ ThrottleStop accurately captures minor multiplier changes and requires the TS Bench test set to 1 Thread. A screenshot of ThrottleStop during this test is recommended. The BIOS must enable the TS Codes if you want your CPU to utilize its full multiplier. Background Windows tasks will engage extra cores, lowering the multiplier used by the processor. This utility also displays the locked TDP and TDC values.
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TMayes136
06-09-2016, 01:32 AM #6

The 740QM is a secured processor which fixes turbo limits. Intel successfully restricted these chips to push buyers toward purchasing one of their high-end models (920XM). Intel’s second-generation and newer Core i CPUs differ in power control settings from the first-gen 740QM. MSR_TURBO_POWER_CURRENT_LIMIT holds two values: TDP and TDC, as described in public guides. TDP represents the maximum power draw managed by Intel Turbo Boost, while TDC indicates the current cap. Similar to turbo restrictions, this setting remains fixed in the 740QM. Unlocking these limits occurs only in Extreme processors. This significantly impacts performance when the CPU is under heavy load. The measured consumption isn’t actual watts—it’s an internal estimate used to regulate turbo functionality. It appears software developers haven’t exposed this data for first-gen Core i CPUs, restricting access to later models. Many tracking tools give inaccurate speed readings during Turbo Boost. Consider using ThrottleStop for precise monitoring. https://www.techpowerup.com/download/tec...ottlestop/ ThrottleStop accurately captures minor multiplier changes and requires the TS Bench test set to 1 Thread. A screenshot of ThrottleStop during this test is recommended. The BIOS must enable the TS Codes if you want your CPU to utilize its full multiplier. Background Windows tasks will engage extra cores, lowering the multiplier used by the processor. This utility also displays the locked TDP and TDC values.

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Star_Swag
Junior Member
3
06-28-2016, 03:00 AM
#7
Yes, there is a Linux alternative for throttlestop. You can use systemd-resolved or similar tools to manage CPU limits without needing Windows. Since your BIOS only supports basic settings like speed step, turbo boost, and hyper threading, enabling those features ensures the necessary configuration works properly.
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Star_Swag
06-28-2016, 03:00 AM #7

Yes, there is a Linux alternative for throttlestop. You can use systemd-resolved or similar tools to manage CPU limits without needing Windows. Since your BIOS only supports basic settings like speed step, turbo boost, and hyper threading, enabling those features ensures the necessary configuration works properly.

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xTeddyxBruhx
Junior Member
41
06-29-2016, 10:45 PM
#8
For optimal results, activate SpeedStep, Turbo Boost and hyper threading within the BIOS settings.
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xTeddyxBruhx
06-29-2016, 10:45 PM #8

For optimal results, activate SpeedStep, Turbo Boost and hyper threading within the BIOS settings.

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mika1245
Member
69
07-02-2016, 07:32 AM
#9
I refuse to activate hyperthreading since Shintel hasn't provided a zombieload update for this processor, though the remaining options remain active.
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mika1245
07-02-2016, 07:32 AM #9

I refuse to activate hyperthreading since Shintel hasn't provided a zombieload update for this processor, though the remaining options remain active.