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No, there isn't a direct AM4-to-FCPGA988 converter available.

No, there isn't a direct AM4-to-FCPGA988 converter available.

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eTuV
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06-16-2016, 04:42 AM
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Hello! My Lenovo B570e looks great and functions well online, but it struggles because there’s no GPU installed, which affects game performance. Some models come with Nvidia 410M built-in, though my machine isn’t one of those. Even if I get the necessary chip, I’d still need four DDR3 VRAM chips (subforum is likely right), and I’m unsure what would happen if I tried something like GDDR5 with this specific part. Since I’m in the Russian Federation, buying those components might be difficult. Alternatively, could I remove memory from other GPUs that have DDR3 RAM? If I had all the parts, would it be possible to solder five components at once onto the motherboard? I’m not confident about it because I lack experience. As for the question itself, it seems unusual—I suspect AMD CPUs aren’t compatible with Intel sockets like MoBo, and there are exceptions such as QTJ2 i7 chips that can fit into LGA1151. What I mean is—why would this matter if it’s not a common idea?
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eTuV
06-16-2016, 04:42 AM #1

Hello! My Lenovo B570e looks great and functions well online, but it struggles because there’s no GPU installed, which affects game performance. Some models come with Nvidia 410M built-in, though my machine isn’t one of those. Even if I get the necessary chip, I’d still need four DDR3 VRAM chips (subforum is likely right), and I’m unsure what would happen if I tried something like GDDR5 with this specific part. Since I’m in the Russian Federation, buying those components might be difficult. Alternatively, could I remove memory from other GPUs that have DDR3 RAM? If I had all the parts, would it be possible to solder five components at once onto the motherboard? I’m not confident about it because I lack experience. As for the question itself, it seems unusual—I suspect AMD CPUs aren’t compatible with Intel sockets like MoBo, and there are exceptions such as QTJ2 i7 chips that can fit into LGA1151. What I mean is—why would this matter if it’s not a common idea?

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babelle05
Junior Member
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06-22-2016, 12:04 PM
#2
Do you understand that AM4 doesn't support DDR3? Your request is unachievable.
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babelle05
06-22-2016, 12:04 PM #2

Do you understand that AM4 doesn't support DDR3? Your request is unachievable.

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FoxMangle_612
Member
86
06-24-2016, 01:03 AM
#3
On the desktop, 6th and 10th generation models look almost the same, and 6th to 9th generation connectors are very alike, which explains why modifications are so straightforward. Keep in mind these systems are much more intricate and secured now compared to earlier versions, requiring a customized BIOS and firmware that may remove features or block updates. Generally, the simplest upgrade is sticking with the same platform and architecture; for laptops, you might be able to swap out missing components. In your situation, swapping a 2nd generation Intel core for an AMD one seems impractical—it would demand significant technical work and likely sacrifice functionality and security.
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FoxMangle_612
06-24-2016, 01:03 AM #3

On the desktop, 6th and 10th generation models look almost the same, and 6th to 9th generation connectors are very alike, which explains why modifications are so straightforward. Keep in mind these systems are much more intricate and secured now compared to earlier versions, requiring a customized BIOS and firmware that may remove features or block updates. Generally, the simplest upgrade is sticking with the same platform and architecture; for laptops, you might be able to swap out missing components. In your situation, swapping a 2nd generation Intel core for an AMD one seems impractical—it would demand significant technical work and likely sacrifice functionality and security.

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Lizzy16
Member
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07-09-2016, 03:55 PM
#4
In essence, what you’re describing isn’t feasible. But if we shift our focus beyond practical limitations and explore the theoretical side—such as spherical CPUs operating in a vacuum—there are some intriguing considerations. Initially, you’d need a BIOS that can work with an AM4 processor. While this might seem achievable, it’s probably not realistic. The processors in question all rely on the Skylake architecture, which demands similar requirements from the motherboard’s BIOS to function properly. Community-driven adjustments have shown that LGA1151v1 boards could potentially accommodate Coffee Lake (8th and 9th generation) chips.

Next, you’d have to verify that the board supports all the features expected by AM4 CPUs. It’s conceivable that certain board functionalities would need to be enabled for an AM4 processor to activate. Many AM4 boards already support UEFI, suggesting some level of compatibility is built-in. However, if a specific feature isn’t present, it could become a major obstacle.

RAM compatibility is another point—no matter the configuration, running an AM4 CPU on a DDR3 board would be impossible. The idea of bypassing the memory controller by repurposing parts of the chipset is complex and fraught with challenges.

If resources allowed, it might be possible to run an AM4 CPU on an older platform like AM3 or LGA775, enabling support for DDR3 or even DDR2 RAM. But achieving strong graphics performance would be severely limited due to high memory latency.

On the other hand, AM4 CPUs can operate independently of a chipset, functioning as a System on Chip (SoC). This could theoretically let you run them on non-AM4 boards by disabling the chipset entirely. However, this would restrict access to PCIe lanes and interfaces that aren’t part of the CPU’s design, likely causing significant practical issues.

Overall, while the concept raises interesting technical questions, it appears to be more of a theoretical exercise than a viable path forward.
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Lizzy16
07-09-2016, 03:55 PM #4

In essence, what you’re describing isn’t feasible. But if we shift our focus beyond practical limitations and explore the theoretical side—such as spherical CPUs operating in a vacuum—there are some intriguing considerations. Initially, you’d need a BIOS that can work with an AM4 processor. While this might seem achievable, it’s probably not realistic. The processors in question all rely on the Skylake architecture, which demands similar requirements from the motherboard’s BIOS to function properly. Community-driven adjustments have shown that LGA1151v1 boards could potentially accommodate Coffee Lake (8th and 9th generation) chips.

Next, you’d have to verify that the board supports all the features expected by AM4 CPUs. It’s conceivable that certain board functionalities would need to be enabled for an AM4 processor to activate. Many AM4 boards already support UEFI, suggesting some level of compatibility is built-in. However, if a specific feature isn’t present, it could become a major obstacle.

RAM compatibility is another point—no matter the configuration, running an AM4 CPU on a DDR3 board would be impossible. The idea of bypassing the memory controller by repurposing parts of the chipset is complex and fraught with challenges.

If resources allowed, it might be possible to run an AM4 CPU on an older platform like AM3 or LGA775, enabling support for DDR3 or even DDR2 RAM. But achieving strong graphics performance would be severely limited due to high memory latency.

On the other hand, AM4 CPUs can operate independently of a chipset, functioning as a System on Chip (SoC). This could theoretically let you run them on non-AM4 boards by disabling the chipset entirely. However, this would restrict access to PCIe lanes and interfaces that aren’t part of the CPU’s design, likely causing significant practical issues.

Overall, while the concept raises interesting technical questions, it appears to be more of a theoretical exercise than a viable path forward.

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Hiudy
Member
90
07-09-2016, 09:00 PM
#5
consider purchasing a fresh unit or assembling a PC. affordable Ryzen 5500U based models are available around 350$ locally (Indo), and used options might offer better performance at lower costs. I wouldn't settle for Ryzen 4000 models.
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Hiudy
07-09-2016, 09:00 PM #5

consider purchasing a fresh unit or assembling a PC. affordable Ryzen 5500U based models are available around 350$ locally (Indo), and used options might offer better performance at lower costs. I wouldn't settle for Ryzen 4000 models.

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Imspacehunter
Junior Member
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07-10-2016, 03:46 AM
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Thank you for clarifying. It's surprising how hard it can be to achieve what seems unattainable. Learning about the reasons behind possibilities is fascinating.
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Imspacehunter
07-10-2016, 03:46 AM #6

Thank you for clarifying. It's surprising how hard it can be to achieve what seems unattainable. Learning about the reasons behind possibilities is fascinating.

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EmperorTurtle7
Junior Member
3
07-10-2016, 06:22 AM
#7
Thank you for the suggestion. I have a PC and am happy with what I can currently do on my laptop—thankfully, it isn’t too demanding for games or video editing right now. I’m curious about ways to boost its performance.
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EmperorTurtle7
07-10-2016, 06:22 AM #7

Thank you for the suggestion. I have a PC and am happy with what I can currently do on my laptop—thankfully, it isn’t too demanding for games or video editing right now. I’m curious about ways to boost its performance.

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Valyrian_
Member
201
07-10-2016, 12:18 PM
#8
Ensure a second track is added for dual channel to boost performance
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Valyrian_
07-10-2016, 12:18 PM #8

Ensure a second track is added for dual channel to boost performance

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DangoBravo
Posting Freak
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07-10-2016, 07:06 PM
#9
Sorry, the setup only has one RAM port, or I haven’t located the second one yet (which seems improbable, since I disassembled this laptop multiple times and would have found a second slot, but it’s still possible).
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DangoBravo
07-10-2016, 07:06 PM #9

Sorry, the setup only has one RAM port, or I haven’t located the second one yet (which seems improbable, since I disassembled this laptop multiple times and would have found a second slot, but it’s still possible).