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No one seems interested in purchasing a new Intel Core Ultra 200S CPU at this time.

No one seems interested in purchasing a new Intel Core Ultra 200S CPU at this time.

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GumiBears
Senior Member
256
06-14-2016, 12:45 AM
#11
It's interesting you're curious about early personal computers! While I didn't exist during the 1980s, I know owning one before the mid-90s was uncommon for infants. Back then, PCs were quite expensive—often around $20,000 or more in the 1970s. The 80s saw some growth, but prices remained high compared to today.
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GumiBears
06-14-2016, 12:45 AM #11

It's interesting you're curious about early personal computers! While I didn't exist during the 1980s, I know owning one before the mid-90s was uncommon for infants. Back then, PCs were quite expensive—often around $20,000 or more in the 1970s. The 80s saw some growth, but prices remained high compared to today.

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NinatoPvP
Posting Freak
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06-14-2016, 08:17 AM
#12
It shows a similar trend with the 11th gen, which faced criticism mainly due to gaming performance. Beyond that, it offered better results compared to its Skylake predecessors. I found it odd this morning that my 11700k running turbo off was actually solving prime number calculations faster than my stock 7800X3D under similar conditions. There’s an optimization available for the latter that could leverage the larger cache, potentially giving it an edge if applied. Zen 5 launch reviews were chaotic, not about the product itself. Even then, it clearly outperformed Zen 4. Price often distorts perception, especially during launches. That’s why I usually disregard price early on and let it settle, which can take a month or longer. There are comparable misconceptions in the GPU space, but I’ll save that for later updates. ARL’s situation is more nuanced because it involved both power considerations and design decisions. I’m still processing the implications, as gathering solid data is tough and even with good information, some opinions remain flawed. Still, I don’t see its performance as a major issue overall. Would seeing more have been helpful? Absolutely.
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NinatoPvP
06-14-2016, 08:17 AM #12

It shows a similar trend with the 11th gen, which faced criticism mainly due to gaming performance. Beyond that, it offered better results compared to its Skylake predecessors. I found it odd this morning that my 11700k running turbo off was actually solving prime number calculations faster than my stock 7800X3D under similar conditions. There’s an optimization available for the latter that could leverage the larger cache, potentially giving it an edge if applied. Zen 5 launch reviews were chaotic, not about the product itself. Even then, it clearly outperformed Zen 4. Price often distorts perception, especially during launches. That’s why I usually disregard price early on and let it settle, which can take a month or longer. There are comparable misconceptions in the GPU space, but I’ll save that for later updates. ARL’s situation is more nuanced because it involved both power considerations and design decisions. I’m still processing the implications, as gathering solid data is tough and even with good information, some opinions remain flawed. Still, I don’t see its performance as a major issue overall. Would seeing more have been helpful? Absolutely.

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zMadeus
Posting Freak
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06-14-2016, 03:29 PM
#13
It seems like you're considering a short position in Intel stock. If the situation looks dire, it might be wise to hold off until you confirm whether the 13th and 14th generation models are still available. Keep an eye on the market trends!
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zMadeus
06-14-2016, 03:29 PM #13

It seems like you're considering a short position in Intel stock. If the situation looks dire, it might be wise to hold off until you confirm whether the 13th and 14th generation models are still available. Keep an eye on the market trends!

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Viveka570
Junior Member
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06-28-2016, 09:59 PM
#14
I'm another old system. My first personal computer was a 486-based machine around 1993, probably a 486 DX/2 running at 66 MHz with 4 GB of RAM, later expanded to 8 MB. It had about 250 MB of hard drive space and a 4 MB VESA Local Bus video card. There was no graphics card yet, no sound output, and a 14-inch CRT monitor that could display up to 800x600 pixels. Optical drives weren't available until later. Dial-up internet was common in the mid-90s. The price was roughly around £1000, which inflation estimates now puts near £2000.
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Viveka570
06-28-2016, 09:59 PM #14

I'm another old system. My first personal computer was a 486-based machine around 1993, probably a 486 DX/2 running at 66 MHz with 4 GB of RAM, later expanded to 8 MB. It had about 250 MB of hard drive space and a 4 MB VESA Local Bus video card. There was no graphics card yet, no sound output, and a 14-inch CRT monitor that could display up to 800x600 pixels. Optical drives weren't available until later. Dial-up internet was common in the mid-90s. The price was roughly around £1000, which inflation estimates now puts near £2000.

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Nejc007
Senior Member
707
06-30-2016, 05:58 AM
#15
It likely won’t. What Intel Core Ultra 200S has achieved so far is boosting efficiency. It consumes much less power compared to the 14th Gen, which also means lower voltages. Since we already received microcode updates for the 13th and 14th Gen models, any similar problems with this chip are almost impossible. So far, that’s the main positive aspect of this release.
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Nejc007
06-30-2016, 05:58 AM #15

It likely won’t. What Intel Core Ultra 200S has achieved so far is boosting efficiency. It consumes much less power compared to the 14th Gen, which also means lower voltages. Since we already received microcode updates for the 13th and 14th Gen models, any similar problems with this chip are almost impossible. So far, that’s the main positive aspect of this release.

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steel51
Member
205
06-30-2016, 12:55 PM
#16
That's quite a bit of history there! It sounds like you're recalling the early days of personal computing. The sticker you mentioned likely came from an AMD Athlon machine around that time. Those were indeed some of the first affordable PCs for everyday use, making tech more accessible to families. I imagine it was a big deal when basic systems started becoming available for the average person.
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steel51
06-30-2016, 12:55 PM #16

That's quite a bit of history there! It sounds like you're recalling the early days of personal computing. The sticker you mentioned likely came from an AMD Athlon machine around that time. Those were indeed some of the first affordable PCs for everyday use, making tech more accessible to families. I imagine it was a big deal when basic systems started becoming available for the average person.

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oMabye
Member
201
07-06-2016, 12:11 PM
#17
I was just born on a 286 processor running at 6/12 MHz, with 1MB of memory and a 20MB hard drive. I had a 5.25-inch and a 3.5-inch floppy disk drive.
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oMabye
07-06-2016, 12:11 PM #17

I was just born on a 286 processor running at 6/12 MHz, with 1MB of memory and a 20MB hard drive. I had a 5.25-inch and a 3.5-inch floppy disk drive.

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_FattyWap_
Member
130
07-07-2016, 05:33 PM
#18
I seem a bit younger now. My first PC was a 386SX/16 that my brother had. I cracked the OS within the first week and learned about reinstalls. They were still around, though. I only donated my last ones last year to a retro tech enthusiast. I still keep a modern USB-3.5" floppy just in case I discover more.
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_FattyWap_
07-07-2016, 05:33 PM #18

I seem a bit younger now. My first PC was a 386SX/16 that my brother had. I cracked the OS within the first week and learned about reinstalls. They were still around, though. I only donated my last ones last year to a retro tech enthusiast. I still keep a modern USB-3.5" floppy just in case I discover more.

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Summer_Cool
Member
175
07-08-2016, 01:56 AM
#19
I recall the floppy disks. They weren’t common for a long time since CDs were being developed, but I still used devices with them for certain jobs.
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Summer_Cool
07-08-2016, 01:56 AM #19

I recall the floppy disks. They weren’t common for a long time since CDs were being developed, but I still used devices with them for certain jobs.

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IceJay24
Member
185
07-09-2016, 11:40 AM
#20
Previously, I relied on 3.5" floppy disks for daily tasks until they were swapped out for a newer technology that cost significantly more. My old test gear was the most convenient method for transferring data to laptops while visiting clients. Customers appreciated it! By the way, do you find floppy disks more intriguing than Arrow Lake?
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IceJay24
07-09-2016, 11:40 AM #20

Previously, I relied on 3.5" floppy disks for daily tasks until they were swapped out for a newer technology that cost significantly more. My old test gear was the most convenient method for transferring data to laptops while visiting clients. Customers appreciated it! By the way, do you find floppy disks more intriguing than Arrow Lake?

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