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No one knows for sure when the Ryzen 5 Pro 5650GE will come out.

No one knows for sure when the Ryzen 5 Pro 5650GE will come out.

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FlameSquid32
Senior Member
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01-01-2016, 11:50 AM
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Looking into a budget NAS with audio conversion, I noticed B&H mentions the Ryzen 5 Pro 5650GE will be available soon. Anyone have an idea of the release date or if it’s already out there? The lower 35W TDP looks promising compared to the 65W of the 5600G, which fits my goal of running it continuously without worrying about high power usage. My current rig uses minimal power even when idle, which has been impacting my electricity costs.
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FlameSquid32
01-01-2016, 11:50 AM #1

Looking into a budget NAS with audio conversion, I noticed B&H mentions the Ryzen 5 Pro 5650GE will be available soon. Anyone have an idea of the release date or if it’s already out there? The lower 35W TDP looks promising compared to the 65W of the 5600G, which fits my goal of running it continuously without worrying about high power usage. My current rig uses minimal power even when idle, which has been impacting my electricity costs.

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skash10
Junior Member
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01-02-2016, 09:48 AM
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You could simply use a standard 5600g chip and lower its voltage. Undervolting stops helping once you hit the point where the CPU needs more voltage for higher clock speeds, especially for the GPU. It might also affect other components like the IGPU. Running it at around 1V or 1.1V could help, but overclocking RAM won’t fix the core issue. It’s worth checking how much your system uses when idle and under load, and see if power costs noticeably change with this approach.
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skash10
01-02-2016, 09:48 AM #2

You could simply use a standard 5600g chip and lower its voltage. Undervolting stops helping once you hit the point where the CPU needs more voltage for higher clock speeds, especially for the GPU. It might also affect other components like the IGPU. Running it at around 1V or 1.1V could help, but overclocking RAM won’t fix the core issue. It’s worth checking how much your system uses when idle and under load, and see if power costs noticeably change with this approach.

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Ridead
Junior Member
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01-02-2016, 11:05 AM
#3
The current system uses all components and consumes 140W when idle. Removing the eight drives brings the draw down to 120W. It runs a Xeon E5-1650 V3 processor, which I attempted to slow down without much effect on an X99 motherboard (Asus X99 Deluxe II). I’m unsure about underclocking the CPU and GPU or doing it properly. I need a solution that lets me get immediate performance instead of risking a failed CPU swap later. It would cost just over $40 a month to keep it running as-is.
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Ridead
01-02-2016, 11:05 AM #3

The current system uses all components and consumes 140W when idle. Removing the eight drives brings the draw down to 120W. It runs a Xeon E5-1650 V3 processor, which I attempted to slow down without much effect on an X99 motherboard (Asus X99 Deluxe II). I’m unsure about underclocking the CPU and GPU or doing it properly. I need a solution that lets me get immediate performance instead of risking a failed CPU swap later. It would cost just over $40 a month to keep it running as-is.

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Mimgu
Member
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01-02-2016, 11:48 PM
#4
And what makes sense buying an unlocked Xeon would be? If you're mainly going to undervolt it, that could actually work well. A solid board paired with an unlocked CPU gives great performance potential. You might just fine-tune it then sell it. Instead of investing in the upgrade, grab a 5600G, set the voltage around 1.1 or 1V, and tweak the clock speed until you hit a steady clock at low power. Once stable, push your RAM to its limits for extra gains. My calculations suggest it could be around 40 watts, which would cost about $13.50 extra on your bill. But since I'm running on a 775W system, this kind of overclocking might cause overheating and freezing issues. Probably not worth it unless you're comfortable with the risks.
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Mimgu
01-02-2016, 11:48 PM #4

And what makes sense buying an unlocked Xeon would be? If you're mainly going to undervolt it, that could actually work well. A solid board paired with an unlocked CPU gives great performance potential. You might just fine-tune it then sell it. Instead of investing in the upgrade, grab a 5600G, set the voltage around 1.1 or 1V, and tweak the clock speed until you hit a steady clock at low power. Once stable, push your RAM to its limits for extra gains. My calculations suggest it could be around 40 watts, which would cost about $13.50 extra on your bill. But since I'm running on a 775W system, this kind of overclocking might cause overheating and freezing issues. Probably not worth it unless you're comfortable with the risks.

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MISHMO333
Member
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01-04-2016, 01:34 PM
#5
I transformed an old device into a NAS and created my first one. Undervolting seems like a good approach. I’m curious if the 5650GE will be released soon—I’m not under pressure but want a realistic timeline.
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MISHMO333
01-04-2016, 01:34 PM #5

I transformed an old device into a NAS and created my first one. Undervolting seems like a good approach. I’m curious if the 5650GE will be released soon—I’m not under pressure but want a realistic timeline.

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taconiebre
Senior Member
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01-04-2016, 06:16 PM
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On Ryzen systems with PBO support, you can fine-tune the PPT to match the CPU's power usage. I haven’t experimented with settings as low as the 35W TDP parts—those are usually capped around 48W—but doing so would allow you to swap a 5650G or 5600G into a 5650GE by reducing its power draw.
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taconiebre
01-04-2016, 06:16 PM #6

On Ryzen systems with PBO support, you can fine-tune the PPT to match the CPU's power usage. I haven’t experimented with settings as low as the 35W TDP parts—those are usually capped around 48W—but doing so would allow you to swap a 5650G or 5600G into a 5650GE by reducing its power draw.

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Star_Lars
Member
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01-05-2016, 01:32 PM
#7
Confirm that PBO supports a 48W PPT across all chips. For example, a 5900X running at 48W achieves better Cinebench results compared to a dual-socket Xeon from ten years prior.
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Star_Lars
01-05-2016, 01:32 PM #7

Confirm that PBO supports a 48W PPT across all chips. For example, a 5900X running at 48W achieves better Cinebench results compared to a dual-socket Xeon from ten years prior.

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mwp99
Junior Member
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01-05-2016, 03:19 PM
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It's good to hear. The main point is that Pro CPUs include ECC support, whereas the 5600X offers it but at a higher cost. The 5600G is more affordable without ECC, which is why I'm considering the 5650GE.
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mwp99
01-05-2016, 03:19 PM #8

It's good to hear. The main point is that Pro CPUs include ECC support, whereas the 5600X offers it but at a higher cost. The 5600G is more affordable without ECC, which is why I'm considering the 5650GE.

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ethandizzy
Member
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01-15-2016, 07:39 AM
#9
This CPU model came out in a batch of 21, with only six available. You can find one for sale on eBay in Germany for around 515 dollars. It's also a 7nm chip. It could be a solid replacement option.
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ethandizzy
01-15-2016, 07:39 AM #9

This CPU model came out in a batch of 21, with only six available. You can find one for sale on eBay in Germany for around 515 dollars. It's also a 7nm chip. It could be a solid replacement option.

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eojeoj1
Member
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01-16-2016, 06:36 PM
#10
It seems the G is available on eBay, while the GE isn't. I'm still trying to figure out why.
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eojeoj1
01-16-2016, 06:36 PM #10

It seems the G is available on eBay, while the GE isn't. I'm still trying to figure out why.

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