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No, not every Samsung B Die is identical. Variations exist in features and specifications.

No, not every Samsung B Die is identical. Variations exist in features and specifications.

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arteralino
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07-15-2016, 10:31 PM
#11
stock results mainly revolve around three configurations: cl14 3200, cl15 3600/cl19 4400 (mostly identical) and cl14 3600/3800 (slightly improved, a lower tier version). These are the three SKUs I use based on my setup, though there are more options available. Regarding overclocking potential, it's largely a matter of chance—cl14 3200 has been found at around 95 USD, cl15 3600 kits for about 125 USD, and the latest cl14 3600/3800 for roughly 150 USD. The BIOS doesn't always hit the absolute top, but it offers decent overclocks for entry-level builds. The Rev-E chip is particularly enjoyable with Intel processors, and if you're really experienced, the Zen series can be fun too.
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arteralino
07-15-2016, 10:31 PM #11

stock results mainly revolve around three configurations: cl14 3200, cl15 3600/cl19 4400 (mostly identical) and cl14 3600/3800 (slightly improved, a lower tier version). These are the three SKUs I use based on my setup, though there are more options available. Regarding overclocking potential, it's largely a matter of chance—cl14 3200 has been found at around 95 USD, cl15 3600 kits for about 125 USD, and the latest cl14 3600/3800 for roughly 150 USD. The BIOS doesn't always hit the absolute top, but it offers decent overclocks for entry-level builds. The Rev-E chip is particularly enjoyable with Intel processors, and if you're really experienced, the Zen series can be fun too.

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FistMeAway
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07-18-2016, 09:37 AM
#12
Looking for Micron Rev E supporting high clocks (4000mhz and above). Most Samsung B-Die options work well with varying voltages. For speeds below 4000mhz, the Samsung B-die kit is a solid choice. The part number offers good value and fits the 3600mhz CL16-16-16-36 XMP range. I’m testing a red version on an Intel IMC with the F4-3600C16D-16GTZSW. There isn’t a superior kit unless it matches the same speed but has lower latency, like CL15.
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FistMeAway
07-18-2016, 09:37 AM #12

Looking for Micron Rev E supporting high clocks (4000mhz and above). Most Samsung B-Die options work well with varying voltages. For speeds below 4000mhz, the Samsung B-die kit is a solid choice. The part number offers good value and fits the 3600mhz CL16-16-16-36 XMP range. I’m testing a red version on an Intel IMC with the F4-3600C16D-16GTZSW. There isn’t a superior kit unless it matches the same speed but has lower latency, like CL15.

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crazypotpie
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07-26-2016, 05:20 AM
#13
Rev-E should work at around 1.5V, but sticking to 1.45V adds extra safety if needed. Someone with more experience might offer better advice. Expect a tough challenge getting CL14 on Rev-E; the subtimings will likely suffer. Check your Ryzen 3600’s FCLK range—probably between 1866-1933MHz—and adjust your memory speed accordingly (around 3800MT/s at 1900MHz FCLK). Tighten the timing settings too. Remember, subtimings matter just as much as primaries, so don’t rely solely on low CAS latency and let everything else be fine-tuned.
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crazypotpie
07-26-2016, 05:20 AM #13

Rev-E should work at around 1.5V, but sticking to 1.45V adds extra safety if needed. Someone with more experience might offer better advice. Expect a tough challenge getting CL14 on Rev-E; the subtimings will likely suffer. Check your Ryzen 3600’s FCLK range—probably between 1866-1933MHz—and adjust your memory speed accordingly (around 3800MT/s at 1900MHz FCLK). Tighten the timing settings too. Remember, subtimings matter just as much as primaries, so don’t rely solely on low CAS latency and let everything else be fine-tuned.

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TrueMM2
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07-26-2016, 06:44 AM
#14
The part number you provided isn't suitable for my setup. Anything above 125 USD is beyond my budget. I was aiming to stay under 3733 MHz because the Zen 2 would shift to a 2:1 clock frequency when it exceeds 3733 MHz.
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TrueMM2
07-26-2016, 06:44 AM #14

The part number you provided isn't suitable for my setup. Anything above 125 USD is beyond my budget. I was aiming to stay under 3733 MHz because the Zen 2 would shift to a 2:1 clock frequency when it exceeds 3733 MHz.

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kenna9
Junior Member
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07-28-2016, 12:36 AM
#15
I reached my FCL Frequency limit of 1900. My friend with E Die managed 3600 MHz at 14-24-24-42, which isn't great in terms of timing but isn't bad either.
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kenna9
07-28-2016, 12:36 AM #15

I reached my FCL Frequency limit of 1900. My friend with E Die managed 3600 MHz at 14-24-24-42, which isn't great in terms of timing but isn't bad either.

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yolomb
Junior Member
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07-28-2016, 05:00 AM
#16
I would test at 3800MHz on the memory, and refine the clock settings to their limits.
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yolomb
07-28-2016, 05:00 AM #16

I would test at 3800MHz on the memory, and refine the clock settings to their limits.

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TheBozGamerYT
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07-28-2016, 05:19 AM
#17
Sure, you're looking for the most affordable options. In practice, you end up paying more for quick B-Die production and then additional costs for RGB. If you're after the best, it's worth the investment.
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TheBozGamerYT
07-28-2016, 05:19 AM #17

Sure, you're looking for the most affordable options. In practice, you end up paying more for quick B-Die production and then additional costs for RGB. If you're after the best, it's worth the investment.

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herobrine3959
Senior Member
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07-28-2016, 06:24 AM
#18
Checking the impact of a 4600 MHz clock speed on Ryzen performance. The 2:1 FCLK change could affect timing, but results depend on the specific model and workload.
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herobrine3959
07-28-2016, 06:24 AM #18

Checking the impact of a 4600 MHz clock speed on Ryzen performance. The 2:1 FCLK change could affect timing, but results depend on the specific model and workload.

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marijn1505
Junior Member
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07-28-2016, 01:04 PM
#19
B-die featuring RGB part number. Additional cost $30 for colors F4-3600C16D-16GTZN
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marijn1505
07-28-2016, 01:04 PM #19

B-die featuring RGB part number. Additional cost $30 for colors F4-3600C16D-16GTZN

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hugojulia
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08-01-2016, 04:44 AM
#20
By reaching a mix of frequency and timing that compensates for the big delay from not matching FCLK with MCLK/UCLK, you'll face voltages that aren't suitable for constant operation.
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hugojulia
08-01-2016, 04:44 AM #20

By reaching a mix of frequency and timing that compensates for the big delay from not matching FCLK with MCLK/UCLK, you'll face voltages that aren't suitable for constant operation.

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