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No need to rely on an ecoflow delta pro 3 or comparable devices for power backup in a small business setting.

No need to rely on an ecoflow delta pro 3 or comparable devices for power backup in a small business setting.

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LucaAL467
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06-08-2023, 09:00 AM
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LucaAL467
06-08-2023, 09:00 AM #1

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Adamant189
Member
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06-08-2023, 03:00 PM
#2
Why not just connect an external power source? I already have a UPS at home with an additional battery pack (from a local manufacturer) that keeps my networking gear and desktop running smoothly for more than six hours without any problems (2KVA with a 40Ah unit). Those UPS batteries tend to wear out over time, so you’d have to swap them out eventually. You could also consider a generator, but it’s another option you haven’t explored yet.
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Adamant189
06-08-2023, 03:00 PM #2

Why not just connect an external power source? I already have a UPS at home with an additional battery pack (from a local manufacturer) that keeps my networking gear and desktop running smoothly for more than six hours without any problems (2KVA with a 40Ah unit). Those UPS batteries tend to wear out over time, so you’d have to swap them out eventually. You could also consider a generator, but it’s another option you haven’t explored yet.

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BlastDu06
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06-08-2023, 10:04 PM
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In reality, it comes down to straightforward simplicity. Most people there aren’t tech-savvy, so the solutions I’m using have to be 1) easy to understand, 2) manageable in practice. His refusal of a DIY backup mirrors our decision to go with a dream wall over a sever rack—it feels less intimidating when I have to ask them to make changes (and all the Ethernet drops from above are convenient). This was one of my concerns. I’m aware that standard UPS units last about three years, but some options offer warranties for five to seven years, which seems reasonable given the benefits of keeping things operational. Still, I might be overlooking something that makes this approach unsuitable. It’s just an area I’m not very familiar with.
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BlastDu06
06-08-2023, 10:04 PM #3

In reality, it comes down to straightforward simplicity. Most people there aren’t tech-savvy, so the solutions I’m using have to be 1) easy to understand, 2) manageable in practice. His refusal of a DIY backup mirrors our decision to go with a dream wall over a sever rack—it feels less intimidating when I have to ask them to make changes (and all the Ethernet drops from above are convenient). This was one of my concerns. I’m aware that standard UPS units last about three years, but some options offer warranties for five to seven years, which seems reasonable given the benefits of keeping things operational. Still, I might be overlooking something that makes this approach unsuitable. It’s just an area I’m not very familiar with.

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Mister_Token
Member
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06-08-2023, 11:16 PM
#4
Does the system allow shutting down devices when the battery is low? Generally, these units lack a strong UPS feature, so verify the model you choose has solid backup power. A large battery setup usually means simple shutdown or generator start. Most UPS units provide just enough power to either stop operation or activate a generator, while models with extra batteries offer longer runtime. If outages are frequent, consider a generator as an alternative.
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Mister_Token
06-08-2023, 11:16 PM #4

Does the system allow shutting down devices when the battery is low? Generally, these units lack a strong UPS feature, so verify the model you choose has solid backup power. A large battery setup usually means simple shutdown or generator start. Most UPS units provide just enough power to either stop operation or activate a generator, while models with extra batteries offer longer runtime. If outages are frequent, consider a generator as an alternative.

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encoder92
Member
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06-09-2023, 12:22 AM
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Ensure all equipment uses backup power sources. Connect one to the Ecoflow/UPS system and the other to regular electricity. This provides protection against power or UPS issues. Preferably, the Ecoflow/UPS should run on its own dedicated circuit. The main concern is that the EcoFlow might have a hidden off switch, but if it's stored away it shouldn't matter. Most devices now have mobile apps, though there isn’t a universal standard for connecting with tools like NUT.
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encoder92
06-09-2023, 12:22 AM #5

Ensure all equipment uses backup power sources. Connect one to the Ecoflow/UPS system and the other to regular electricity. This provides protection against power or UPS issues. Preferably, the Ecoflow/UPS should run on its own dedicated circuit. The main concern is that the EcoFlow might have a hidden off switch, but if it's stored away it shouldn't matter. Most devices now have mobile apps, though there isn’t a universal standard for connecting with tools like NUT.

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thorpops12
Member
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06-20-2023, 01:18 AM
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You mentioned you already have an APC UPS installed. Which specific model do you have? You might be able to connect a battery pack directly without making any adjustments or changes elsewhere. My setup only required a single cable connected to the back of the UPS.
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thorpops12
06-20-2023, 01:18 AM #6

You mentioned you already have an APC UPS installed. Which specific model do you have? You might be able to connect a battery pack directly without making any adjustments or changes elsewhere. My setup only required a single cable connected to the back of the UPS.

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LorrenK
Senior Member
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06-21-2023, 07:36 PM
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The setup doesn’t have a shutdown trigger configured, which is why I wasn’t overly concerned. This is why I never thought about it before. Now several models offer a switchover time of 10ms or 0ms (always on), fitting the standard range for consumer UPS upgrades. I haven’t found a traditional UPS that can last more than an hour without needing external intervention. Regarding generators, unfortunately there aren’t any locations where you could install one that complies with city regulations—this was already considered during planning. We’ve implemented dual power for everything we can, including a UPS failure years ago, so now we have secure backup supplies. The network and redundant modems are set up to handle disruptions, even if access is restricted. I don’t know the exact model off the top of my head. Would you mind sharing the battery type you use? I need roughly 3kWh to run them for a full day.
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LorrenK
06-21-2023, 07:36 PM #7

The setup doesn’t have a shutdown trigger configured, which is why I wasn’t overly concerned. This is why I never thought about it before. Now several models offer a switchover time of 10ms or 0ms (always on), fitting the standard range for consumer UPS upgrades. I haven’t found a traditional UPS that can last more than an hour without needing external intervention. Regarding generators, unfortunately there aren’t any locations where you could install one that complies with city regulations—this was already considered during planning. We’ve implemented dual power for everything we can, including a UPS failure years ago, so now we have secure backup supplies. The network and redundant modems are set up to handle disruptions, even if access is restricted. I don’t know the exact model off the top of my head. Would you mind sharing the battery type you use? I need roughly 3kWh to run them for a full day.

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Razerbag
Junior Member
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06-22-2023, 01:45 AM
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Mine is from the same brand as my UPS, from SMS (a local branch of Legrand). Something like this (if compatible with your current UPS) should get the job done: https://www.apc.com/shop/gr/en/products/.../P-BR24BPG Seems to be as simple as mine, albeit with smaller batteries (18Ah instead of mine 40Ah): https://download.schneider-electric.com/...User+guide
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Razerbag
06-22-2023, 01:45 AM #8

Mine is from the same brand as my UPS, from SMS (a local branch of Legrand). Something like this (if compatible with your current UPS) should get the job done: https://www.apc.com/shop/gr/en/products/.../P-BR24BPG Seems to be as simple as mine, albeit with smaller batteries (18Ah instead of mine 40Ah): https://download.schneider-electric.com/...User+guide

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Jimmy_Nuttrin
Junior Member
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06-22-2023, 07:33 AM
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10ms is definitely within the normal range for a non-active or offline UPS. I shared this idea a year ago too, but back then all models claimed “EPS” and a transition time around 40ms. The latest units rated at 10ms perform just as well as most other standby or interactive systems.
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Jimmy_Nuttrin
06-22-2023, 07:33 AM #9

10ms is definitely within the normal range for a non-active or offline UPS. I shared this idea a year ago too, but back then all models claimed “EPS” and a transition time around 40ms. The latest units rated at 10ms perform just as well as most other standby or interactive systems.

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BlueSnakeEyes
Junior Member
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06-22-2023, 08:46 AM
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I've examined these prior. Even the biggest ones I discovered offered perhaps a half-hour to two hours of availability before the actual benefit begins, around four hours thanks to ongoing operations.
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BlueSnakeEyes
06-22-2023, 08:46 AM #10

I've examined these prior. Even the biggest ones I discovered offered perhaps a half-hour to two hours of availability before the actual benefit begins, around four hours thanks to ongoing operations.

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