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No, Demos are still relevant today.

No, Demos are still relevant today.

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sammie538
Junior Member
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04-12-2016, 04:54 PM
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Well folks, as the title suggests, I've observed that for the main AAA games, demos have largely faded away. About 15 years back, when I played many varied titles, almost every one offered a demo roughly a month before release. Games like BF3, Modern Warfare, and F.E.A.R... typically had a playable demo. Nowadays, the only major title with a demo is RE Village. It seems the rest rely on teasers, trailers, and then suddenly drop them in stores. I also noticed a troubling shift toward paid demos, which undermines the purpose of having a free preview before purchasing. Anyone else feeling this way?
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sammie538
04-12-2016, 04:54 PM #1

Well folks, as the title suggests, I've observed that for the main AAA games, demos have largely faded away. About 15 years back, when I played many varied titles, almost every one offered a demo roughly a month before release. Games like BF3, Modern Warfare, and F.E.A.R... typically had a playable demo. Nowadays, the only major title with a demo is RE Village. It seems the rest rely on teasers, trailers, and then suddenly drop them in stores. I also noticed a troubling shift toward paid demos, which undermines the purpose of having a free preview before purchasing. Anyone else feeling this way?

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purplepixe
Member
57
04-14-2016, 12:28 PM
#2
I keep using the Halo: Combat Evolved demo since it’s enjoyable to tweak and features my preferred level, The Silent Cartographer. I’ve also observed the absence of demos, which makes me think it might be linked to streamers or YouTubers promoting the titles and the game receiving free ads plus a complimentary demo through those channels.
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purplepixe
04-14-2016, 12:28 PM #2

I keep using the Halo: Combat Evolved demo since it’s enjoyable to tweak and features my preferred level, The Silent Cartographer. I’ve also observed the absence of demos, which makes me think it might be linked to streamers or YouTubers promoting the titles and the game receiving free ads plus a complimentary demo through those channels.

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HoofdPiet123
Member
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04-14-2016, 05:42 PM
#3
To experience a game, there are numerous ways available. Demonstrations aren't essential.
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HoofdPiet123
04-14-2016, 05:42 PM #3

To experience a game, there are numerous ways available. Demonstrations aren't essential.

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elm4xo
Member
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04-15-2016, 03:48 AM
#4
The demo lets you observe gameplay and graphics while also understanding how the game might perform on your own system. It's entertaining to watch it run at full settings with the newest hardware, but do you think Cyberpunk would have received the same negative response if a real demo had shown its limitations? Many PS4 players wouldn't have invested in it when they saw how poorly it performed on their console.
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elm4xo
04-15-2016, 03:48 AM #4

The demo lets you observe gameplay and graphics while also understanding how the game might perform on your own system. It's entertaining to watch it run at full settings with the newest hardware, but do you think Cyberpunk would have received the same negative response if a real demo had shown its limitations? Many PS4 players wouldn't have invested in it when they saw how poorly it performed on their console.

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xAPPLExPIEx
Senior Member
657
04-21-2016, 01:56 AM
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I experienced Star Wars Battlefront II Alpha in 2018/2019. After that, many prefer watching live streams or videos first to understand a game's quality before playing a demo. Demos were more common when it was hard to watch someone play online. You're right, though it seems recent releases are often exceptions rather than the rule (actually flawed at launch) compared to games with noticeable bugs that reduce enjoyment but aren't fully broken (like Arkham Knight PC Port, which was limited to 30fps initially and later improved). A demo might also miss bigger problems. The 2077 demo could be a short mission with a restricted open world area, and if issues exist, developers would likely shrug them off as minor glitches like random street signs appearing unexpectedly.
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xAPPLExPIEx
04-21-2016, 01:56 AM #5

I experienced Star Wars Battlefront II Alpha in 2018/2019. After that, many prefer watching live streams or videos first to understand a game's quality before playing a demo. Demos were more common when it was hard to watch someone play online. You're right, though it seems recent releases are often exceptions rather than the rule (actually flawed at launch) compared to games with noticeable bugs that reduce enjoyment but aren't fully broken (like Arkham Knight PC Port, which was limited to 30fps initially and later improved). A demo might also miss bigger problems. The 2077 demo could be a short mission with a restricted open world area, and if issues exist, developers would likely shrug them off as minor glitches like random street signs appearing unexpectedly.

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demox777
Junior Member
13
04-22-2016, 08:34 PM
#6
*examines his assortment of PC Gamer demo discs and shareware compilation CDs*
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demox777
04-22-2016, 08:34 PM #6

*examines his assortment of PC Gamer demo discs and shareware compilation CDs*

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Robater
Member
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04-24-2016, 07:22 PM
#7
Absolutely align with this perspective. A developer might focus on smaller sections to create misleading impressions, but given CP's complexity, it would likely offer little real benefit even for basic systems. Most teams already understand that showcasing a polished demo won't compensate for a subpar final product. I recall some major adjustments made to Half Life 2 code after the harbour demo, highlighting issues with HDR simulation and water animations in the Source engine—like frame drops or stuck states during extreme exposure settings. Demos, particularly for highly anticipated titles, can provide valuable insights that only truly help when developers listen closely to player feedback. For CP, for instance, imagine launching just a handful of main missions and a few side quests (about an hour of play), with limited exploration early on—like restricting players to The Glen. Then focus on refining the code based on the overwhelming demand from eager fans.
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Robater
04-24-2016, 07:22 PM #7

Absolutely align with this perspective. A developer might focus on smaller sections to create misleading impressions, but given CP's complexity, it would likely offer little real benefit even for basic systems. Most teams already understand that showcasing a polished demo won't compensate for a subpar final product. I recall some major adjustments made to Half Life 2 code after the harbour demo, highlighting issues with HDR simulation and water animations in the Source engine—like frame drops or stuck states during extreme exposure settings. Demos, particularly for highly anticipated titles, can provide valuable insights that only truly help when developers listen closely to player feedback. For CP, for instance, imagine launching just a handful of main missions and a few side quests (about an hour of play), with limited exploration early on—like restricting players to The Glen. Then focus on refining the code based on the overwhelming demand from eager fans.

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narwhal_62
Member
200
04-27-2016, 11:23 AM
#8
Demos have disappeared from AAA titles for over ten years. Now indie projects lead with demos. Massive multiplayer games sometimes release early "beta" periods before launch to address problems found during testing, which often turns into a demo rather than a full fix.
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narwhal_62
04-27-2016, 11:23 AM #8

Demos have disappeared from AAA titles for over ten years. Now indie projects lead with demos. Massive multiplayer games sometimes release early "beta" periods before launch to address problems found during testing, which often turns into a demo rather than a full fix.

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05-07-2016, 08:26 PM
#9
Checked Steam demos for several titles including Hitman, Final Fantasy XV, Civilization VI, Mafia III, Wolfenstein Youngblood, Project Cars 2, Outriders, The Crew 2, Detroit: Become Human, Middle-earth Shadow Wars, Khockout City, Shadow Of The Tomb Raider, Dragon Quest XI. It seems developers often skip refining demos now that refunds are common.
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MysticMarineYT
05-07-2016, 08:26 PM #9

Checked Steam demos for several titles including Hitman, Final Fantasy XV, Civilization VI, Mafia III, Wolfenstein Youngblood, Project Cars 2, Outriders, The Crew 2, Detroit: Become Human, Middle-earth Shadow Wars, Khockout City, Shadow Of The Tomb Raider, Dragon Quest XI. It seems developers often skip refining demos now that refunds are common.

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MrSarx
Senior Member
375
05-13-2016, 05:40 PM
#10
It seems I could be missing something, as many of these didn’t include demos upon launch. It’s possible they were added later. This undermines the value of a demo if it wasn’t there initially.
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MrSarx
05-13-2016, 05:40 PM #10

It seems I could be missing something, as many of these didn’t include demos upon launch. It’s possible they were added later. This undermines the value of a demo if it wasn’t there initially.

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