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No, CPUs from the same family typically use different silicon dies.

No, CPUs from the same family typically use different silicon dies.

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revender
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06-02-2022, 08:45 AM
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I was searching for a particular Intel Pentium 4 processor for detailed research. You mentioned needing a specific model like the SL6BD, but can't find it locally without spending a lot on eBay. I wondered if another CPU from the same line, such as the Willamette family SL4SG, would share the same die. Was this assumption accurate? Here’s the reference list you shared from Wikipedia. Thanks for your guidance.
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revender
06-02-2022, 08:45 AM #1

I was searching for a particular Intel Pentium 4 processor for detailed research. You mentioned needing a specific model like the SL6BD, but can't find it locally without spending a lot on eBay. I wondered if another CPU from the same line, such as the Willamette family SL4SG, would share the same die. Was this assumption accurate? Here’s the reference list you shared from Wikipedia. Thanks for your guidance.

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Unmigrate
Senior Member
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06-02-2022, 09:12 AM
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Subject shifted to CPUs, motherboards, and memory sections
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Unmigrate
06-02-2022, 09:12 AM #2

Subject shifted to CPUs, motherboards, and memory sections

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FyrewallPlayz
Junior Member
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06-02-2022, 10:07 AM
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When the family remains consistent and core count stays unchanged, the physical die design must match.
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FyrewallPlayz
06-02-2022, 10:07 AM #3

When the family remains consistent and core count stays unchanged, the physical die design must match.

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06-02-2022, 06:48 PM
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That's ideal for my situation. Appreciate it!
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the_true_benja
06-02-2022, 06:48 PM #4

That's ideal for my situation. Appreciate it!

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Blockwalker02
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06-02-2022, 08:20 PM
#5
Not always. The Ryzen 3100 and 3300X differ. Each has four cores, but one uses two chips while the other uses one.
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Blockwalker02
06-02-2022, 08:20 PM #5

Not always. The Ryzen 3100 and 3300X differ. Each has four cores, but one uses two chips while the other uses one.

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Ac1dicBlitzz
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06-03-2022, 11:26 AM
#6
From a die-level view, the chiplets match exactly between the two models.
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Ac1dicBlitzz
06-03-2022, 11:26 AM #6

From a die-level view, the chiplets match exactly between the two models.

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CameronMonkey
Junior Member
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06-09-2022, 04:59 AM
#7
It seems there was some confusion about the design of the components. One part was described as a single chiplet, while another was a two-chiplet version.
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CameronMonkey
06-09-2022, 04:59 AM #7

It seems there was some confusion about the design of the components. One part was described as a single chiplet, while another was a two-chiplet version.

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Blood_edge
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06-09-2022, 12:17 PM
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It's the same core die for each architecture, but the variations lie in how the chip is stepped and its internal design. This mainly depends on the chip's IMC and cache performance. It involves adjusting the internal circuitry to manage everything inside, which should improve with better design. I'm unsure if actual die variations would appear, but you could compare two chips of the same model with different steps to check for differences.
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Blood_edge
06-09-2022, 12:17 PM #8

It's the same core die for each architecture, but the variations lie in how the chip is stepped and its internal design. This mainly depends on the chip's IMC and cache performance. It involves adjusting the internal circuitry to manage everything inside, which should improve with better design. I'm unsure if actual die variations would appear, but you could compare two chips of the same model with different steps to check for differences.

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Nordknight_01
Junior Member
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06-09-2022, 07:05 PM
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It seems you're asking about variations in architecture and connections between chips. I can help with that. The connection methods might change from one chip to another, and the best way to understand this is by testing different dies. I'm open to doing more die tests if you'd like. Thanks for your question!
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Nordknight_01
06-09-2022, 07:05 PM #9

It seems you're asking about variations in architecture and connections between chips. I can help with that. The connection methods might change from one chip to another, and the best way to understand this is by testing different dies. I'm open to doing more die tests if you'd like. Thanks for your question!

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Peliah
Junior Member
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06-10-2022, 03:27 AM
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In that case I think I would order several chips and do die shots on them to see if much differs but not much or at all should change in theory. Thanks for your input as always
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Peliah
06-10-2022, 03:27 AM #10

In that case I think I would order several chips and do die shots on them to see if much differs but not much or at all should change in theory. Thanks for your input as always