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No certainty about the situation.

No certainty about the situation.

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ArthoFake
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12-19-2019, 01:22 PM
#11
Fair point. Do any minds have optimism about 10nm? Shrinking chips usually boost performance per core, and having ten Intel cores instead of twelve AMD cores wouldn’t necessarily help.
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ArthoFake
12-19-2019, 01:22 PM #11

Fair point. Do any minds have optimism about 10nm? Shrinking chips usually boost performance per core, and having ten Intel cores instead of twelve AMD cores wouldn’t necessarily help.

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pikkilo
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12-19-2019, 07:31 PM
#12
It's really tough to guess how the desktop app will perform. The current results are only about 10mm away from mobile benchmarks, which doesn’t show a significant boost. They might have around 15% higher IPC, but it doesn’t translate into much faster execution, so there’s no real gain. That’s not promising.
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pikkilo
12-19-2019, 07:31 PM #12

It's really tough to guess how the desktop app will perform. The current results are only about 10mm away from mobile benchmarks, which doesn’t show a significant boost. They might have around 15% higher IPC, but it doesn’t translate into much faster execution, so there’s no real gain. That’s not promising.

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MU1499
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12-22-2019, 12:22 AM
#13
Indeed, every architecture faces challenges at its inception. Zen had its own set, but it has evolved significantly. If Intel focuses on refining their processors and addressing issues in the mobile lineup rather than depending on questionable marketing tactics, there could be real progress beyond the 14nm generation.
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MU1499
12-22-2019, 12:22 AM #13

Indeed, every architecture faces challenges at its inception. Zen had its own set, but it has evolved significantly. If Intel focuses on refining their processors and addressing issues in the mobile lineup rather than depending on questionable marketing tactics, there could be real progress beyond the 14nm generation.

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zoulus
Junior Member
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12-22-2019, 12:48 AM
#14
The problem lies in the fact that 14nm isn't bad at all. Intel's decision to limit model segmentation seems cost-effective. If the 9th generation had used this list instead, outcomes would have been vastly different. They might have gained short-term profits but would have faced far less harm to their reputation.
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zoulus
12-22-2019, 12:48 AM #14

The problem lies in the fact that 14nm isn't bad at all. Intel's decision to limit model segmentation seems cost-effective. If the 9th generation had used this list instead, outcomes would have been vastly different. They might have gained short-term profits but would have faced far less harm to their reputation.

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476ms
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12-22-2019, 12:44 PM
#15
Reports suggest Intel is reaching out to Samsung for support regarding their chip technology... a rather embarrassing situation!
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476ms
12-22-2019, 12:44 PM #15

Reports suggest Intel is reaching out to Samsung for support regarding their chip technology... a rather embarrassing situation!

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mode122
Junior Member
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12-23-2019, 06:37 PM
#16
AMD is clearly in the forefront, but I think Intel will manage to reclaim their position. The challenge lies in whether they can maintain it. AMD might secure a solid foothold in the industry, and there’s even a possibility that Qualcomm could step into the spotlight and challenge both companies.
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mode122
12-23-2019, 06:37 PM #16

AMD is clearly in the forefront, but I think Intel will manage to reclaim their position. The challenge lies in whether they can maintain it. AMD might secure a solid foothold in the industry, and there’s even a possibility that Qualcomm could step into the spotlight and challenge both companies.

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aaron1506
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01-14-2020, 11:08 AM
#17
Intel will eventually re-enter the scene and remain there. A major overhaul across numerous areas would be needed to fully shift this direction. AMD still isn't at the forefront, particularly in terms of market share. Their consumer sales are stronger, but Intel doesn’t prioritize that much. AMD leads in growth, while Intel is currently facing a significant setback in its CPU segment. They offer a wide range of products and maintain involvement across various markets. I wouldn’t fear their decline, but I’m concerned they won’t improve from this experience, and we might find ourselves back where we started five years later when they regain dominance only to stagnate again.
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aaron1506
01-14-2020, 11:08 AM #17

Intel will eventually re-enter the scene and remain there. A major overhaul across numerous areas would be needed to fully shift this direction. AMD still isn't at the forefront, particularly in terms of market share. Their consumer sales are stronger, but Intel doesn’t prioritize that much. AMD leads in growth, while Intel is currently facing a significant setback in its CPU segment. They offer a wide range of products and maintain involvement across various markets. I wouldn’t fear their decline, but I’m concerned they won’t improve from this experience, and we might find ourselves back where we started five years later when they regain dominance only to stagnate again.

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Edlestier
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01-18-2020, 04:59 AM
#18
Intel’s 10nm launch is expected around February 2020, with improvements over the previous generation. If the architecture stays consistent and speeds remain unchanged, the performance gain would be minimal compared to earlier nodes.
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Edlestier
01-18-2020, 04:59 AM #18

Intel’s 10nm launch is expected around February 2020, with improvements over the previous generation. If the architecture stays consistent and speeds remain unchanged, the performance gain would be minimal compared to earlier nodes.

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imTri
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01-24-2020, 08:31 PM
#19
It's truly remarkable we've reached the 7nm level. As processors shrink further, quantum tunneling becomes a bigger challenge.
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imTri
01-24-2020, 08:31 PM #19

It's truly remarkable we've reached the 7nm level. As processors shrink further, quantum tunneling becomes a bigger challenge.

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Dark_Chan
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01-25-2020, 05:10 AM
#20
It's possible DDR5 could arrive in 2020, though not necessarily after the tenth "season." Several reports suggest it may reach desktops starting in 2020.
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Dark_Chan
01-25-2020, 05:10 AM #20

It's possible DDR5 could arrive in 2020, though not necessarily after the tenth "season." Several reports suggest it may reach desktops starting in 2020.

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