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No, AMD is not targeting Zen 4. Their focus remains on other processors and technologies.

No, AMD is not targeting Zen 4. Their focus remains on other processors and technologies.

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OffsetBadge
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08-12-2022, 01:26 PM
#11
Actually that’s my old 3600 model. But with the newest BIOS it climbed only to 4.1. “Surprise” was much more reliable and I could run my RAM at 3600MHz without issues. And honestly, with PBO (those secret Reddit settings) it performed significantly better than before—used more power too, but stayed cooler. TL;DR, just as the contract states: *subject to change*, which is why they keep writing that. Nothing about these advertised specs is permanent or perfect.
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OffsetBadge
08-12-2022, 01:26 PM #11

Actually that’s my old 3600 model. But with the newest BIOS it climbed only to 4.1. “Surprise” was much more reliable and I could run my RAM at 3600MHz without issues. And honestly, with PBO (those secret Reddit settings) it performed significantly better than before—used more power too, but stayed cooler. TL;DR, just as the contract states: *subject to change*, which is why they keep writing that. Nothing about these advertised specs is permanent or perfect.

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IamRikyPT
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08-12-2022, 01:52 PM
#12
Core features in the release bios for AGESA 1.0.0.2 are designed to run above 5.7ghz without PBO support, using lower voltages to maintain higher frequencies.
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IamRikyPT
08-12-2022, 01:52 PM #12

Core features in the release bios for AGESA 1.0.0.2 are designed to run above 5.7ghz without PBO support, using lower voltages to maintain higher frequencies.

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Maxavo91
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08-30-2022, 12:39 AM
#13
Have you explored using Hwinfo64 for frequency checks? While I acknowledge your point, Hwmonitor isn't always the most precise tool for AMD CPU readings.
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Maxavo91
08-30-2022, 12:39 AM #13

Have you explored using Hwinfo64 for frequency checks? While I acknowledge your point, Hwmonitor isn't always the most precise tool for AMD CPU readings.

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Demorocks8
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09-13-2022, 09:47 AM
#14
Whats your settings ? I am using negative curve optimizer at -35 on all cores because this limit increased ability to undervolt HOWEVER since there is still chance that some cores might try to get 5.7ghz~ and at 5.7ghz negative -35 curve is not HAPPENING so i use negative pbo of -150mhz, even if it tries to hit higher clocks on one or two cores at random it won't go past 5.6ghz~ on that random moment. Since its not passing 5.5ghz in 99% of cases in gaming this works for me and i get 39500~ points in cb23. On release bios i could do negative 20 at most but it was going up to 5.8ghz. Wish it would come back... Still would call it AMD fraud
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Demorocks8
09-13-2022, 09:47 AM #14

Whats your settings ? I am using negative curve optimizer at -35 on all cores because this limit increased ability to undervolt HOWEVER since there is still chance that some cores might try to get 5.7ghz~ and at 5.7ghz negative -35 curve is not HAPPENING so i use negative pbo of -150mhz, even if it tries to hit higher clocks on one or two cores at random it won't go past 5.6ghz~ on that random moment. Since its not passing 5.5ghz in 99% of cases in gaming this works for me and i get 39500~ points in cb23. On release bios i could do negative 20 at most but it was going up to 5.8ghz. Wish it would come back... Still would call it AMD fraud

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mewa11
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09-13-2022, 03:26 PM
#15
I also tried it, but I don’t have a photo of it. The results matched what hwmonitor showed. Also, here’s the agesa 1.0.0.4 version. I was gathering data to send to asrock for feedback. There’s a 5.5ghz lock and it won’t change.
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mewa11
09-13-2022, 03:26 PM #15

I also tried it, but I don’t have a photo of it. The results matched what hwmonitor showed. Also, here’s the agesa 1.0.0.4 version. I was gathering data to send to asrock for feedback. There’s a 5.5ghz lock and it won’t change.

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Saintrow9345
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09-13-2022, 05:20 PM
#16
AGESA updates can sometimes affect performance, as others have mentioned before. It might also be because a new socket hasn’t been fully resolved yet. Even after reinstalling chipset drivers and adjusting OC settings, changes in BIOS versions can cause further adjustments. That’s why I was cautious about updating the BIOS until this month’s latest release. Previous CO settings haven’t worked well for me, so I’ll revisit them later when I’m ready.
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Saintrow9345
09-13-2022, 05:20 PM #16

AGESA updates can sometimes affect performance, as others have mentioned before. It might also be because a new socket hasn’t been fully resolved yet. Even after reinstalling chipset drivers and adjusting OC settings, changes in BIOS versions can cause further adjustments. That’s why I was cautious about updating the BIOS until this month’s latest release. Previous CO settings haven’t worked well for me, so I’ll revisit them later when I’m ready.

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MidgetOnRoids
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09-13-2022, 06:56 PM
#17
They enhanced the 5000 series with a c-state limiter following feedback. Asus offers a feature named "Medium Load Boostit" that restores its original behavior. It doesn't work out of the box, and I needed a stability boost of +20 to +25 per core. Without this setting, I can achieve -30 across all cores.
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MidgetOnRoids
09-13-2022, 06:56 PM #17

They enhanced the 5000 series with a c-state limiter following feedback. Asus offers a feature named "Medium Load Boostit" that restores its original behavior. It doesn't work out of the box, and I needed a stability boost of +20 to +25 per core. Without this setting, I can achieve -30 across all cores.

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Bunkey
Member
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09-16-2022, 10:28 PM
#18
I'm familiar with Ryzen processors. I upgraded to 3600, then 5800X and now 7950X. Each generation didn't perform as expected. I had to adjust settings myself. Of course, I'm not naive—I tried all the options. This performance cap really limits PBO2 on Zen 4. Why bother with overclocking when PBO2 plus 200MHz doesn't help? The CPU stays around 5.5GHz during games, no matter what. As I mentioned earlier, sometimes one core hits the advertised speed, so PBO2 monitoring would show a higher frequency without any real gain. No improvement in games, maybe Stalker Call of Pripyat or Counter-Strike: Source would help or hurt. That's it. In most cases, they lock the CPU at 5.5GHz. While previews claimed hitting 5.85GHz while gaming, that's just a lie from AMD.
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Bunkey
09-16-2022, 10:28 PM #18

I'm familiar with Ryzen processors. I upgraded to 3600, then 5800X and now 7950X. Each generation didn't perform as expected. I had to adjust settings myself. Of course, I'm not naive—I tried all the options. This performance cap really limits PBO2 on Zen 4. Why bother with overclocking when PBO2 plus 200MHz doesn't help? The CPU stays around 5.5GHz during games, no matter what. As I mentioned earlier, sometimes one core hits the advertised speed, so PBO2 monitoring would show a higher frequency without any real gain. No improvement in games, maybe Stalker Call of Pripyat or Counter-Strike: Source would help or hurt. That's it. In most cases, they lock the CPU at 5.5GHz. While previews claimed hitting 5.85GHz while gaming, that's just a lie from AMD.

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Jyomin
Junior Member
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09-24-2022, 05:09 PM
#19
It would have been great if ASUS were a top choice for motherboards. I inquired with Asus about adding this capability, but they confirmed it wasn’t available at the moment. Yeah, AMD isn’t flawless—never has been.
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Jyomin
09-24-2022, 05:09 PM #19

It would have been great if ASUS were a top choice for motherboards. I inquired with Asus about adding this capability, but they confirmed it wasn’t available at the moment. Yeah, AMD isn’t flawless—never has been.

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WildCandy
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09-24-2022, 11:18 PM
#20
You'd understand clock stretching happens on Ryzen processors...my 5950X will confirm it's running at 4.6GHz all-core, but performance remains unchanged in games or I notice a hit in R23. Others who push the clocks higher on Ryzen experience similar results. At around 4.45GHz all-core, my 5950X tends to settle there...can't push single-core beyond 4.9GHz. If you're upset and questioning a company's claims, why remain with them?
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WildCandy
09-24-2022, 11:18 PM #20

You'd understand clock stretching happens on Ryzen processors...my 5950X will confirm it's running at 4.6GHz all-core, but performance remains unchanged in games or I notice a hit in R23. Others who push the clocks higher on Ryzen experience similar results. At around 4.45GHz all-core, my 5950X tends to settle there...can't push single-core beyond 4.9GHz. If you're upset and questioning a company's claims, why remain with them?

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