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New to Ryzen and overclocking. Please advise.

New to Ryzen and overclocking. Please advise.

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Wa3llklick
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07-14-2019, 02:56 PM
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Wa3llklick
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RubenLexus
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07-14-2019, 03:41 PM
#12
I made minimal progress, if any at all.
I finished reading your complete guide until the end. I also checked every item you mentioned in BIOS except CnQ, but the voltage still doesn’t reduce during idle.
Only Ryzen Master displays core frequency reduction. All other monitoring tools show cores stuck at 4.2ghz. This inconsistency in data makes it hard to understand.
I removed RM and other motherboard utilities from AsRock.
I restored BIOS defaults and checked readings while running Cinebench R20... temperatures rose to 77°C, resulting in lower scores than my manual settings, reaching 1.35v with idle or non-load tasks.
My manual settings perform well, but a) I shouldn’t undervolt during idle for better efficiency and chip life. b) It’s possible I’m not actually downclocking cores, unless the RM readings are telling the truth.
I’m confused. I’ve adjusted many power-saving configurations, yet no downvolting occurs. I can live with my own settings, but I feel I haven’t optimized the system properly.
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RubenLexus
07-14-2019, 03:41 PM #12

I made minimal progress, if any at all.
I finished reading your complete guide until the end. I also checked every item you mentioned in BIOS except CnQ, but the voltage still doesn’t reduce during idle.
Only Ryzen Master displays core frequency reduction. All other monitoring tools show cores stuck at 4.2ghz. This inconsistency in data makes it hard to understand.
I removed RM and other motherboard utilities from AsRock.
I restored BIOS defaults and checked readings while running Cinebench R20... temperatures rose to 77°C, resulting in lower scores than my manual settings, reaching 1.35v with idle or non-load tasks.
My manual settings perform well, but a) I shouldn’t undervolt during idle for better efficiency and chip life. b) It’s possible I’m not actually downclocking cores, unless the RM readings are telling the truth.
I’m confused. I’ve adjusted many power-saving configurations, yet no downvolting occurs. I can live with my own settings, but I feel I haven’t optimized the system properly.

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Dyversxy_
Junior Member
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07-14-2019, 05:44 PM
#13
CNQ is absent from many boards now. A few still refer to it, but generally it's just mentioned as global or advanced C-states. Have you turned off PBO/PBO2? (Precision boost overdrive, distinct from the stock boost known as "precision boost," which is the default enhancement.) Ryzen master is the only tool you should focus on completely. HWinfo and Core Temp are solid options, far surpassing most alternatives for general use, but Ryzen master remains the top choice for CPU monitoring.
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Dyversxy_
07-14-2019, 05:44 PM #13

CNQ is absent from many boards now. A few still refer to it, but generally it's just mentioned as global or advanced C-states. Have you turned off PBO/PBO2? (Precision boost overdrive, distinct from the stock boost known as "precision boost," which is the default enhancement.) Ryzen master is the only tool you should focus on completely. HWinfo and Core Temp are solid options, far surpassing most alternatives for general use, but Ryzen master remains the top choice for CPU monitoring.

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Devon_playz
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07-19-2019, 09:48 AM
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I turned off PBO and adjusted CPB/PB settings as well. All other items from the helpful moderator list are active, but no drop appears even with manual OC at 1.125v. Idles at that fixed voltage. What I heard about RM seems unlikely because other monitoring apps showed conflicting data. I plan to reinstall it to rule out any unexpected BIOS changes. I just wanted to eliminate any unrealistic possibilities. What do you think might be the cause? On Intel, I recall needing to enable adaptive voltage or something similar. I only found three options for an offset in my BIOS, but I hesitated to change anything and couldn't find more details.
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Devon_playz
07-19-2019, 09:48 AM #14

I turned off PBO and adjusted CPB/PB settings as well. All other items from the helpful moderator list are active, but no drop appears even with manual OC at 1.125v. Idles at that fixed voltage. What I heard about RM seems unlikely because other monitoring apps showed conflicting data. I plan to reinstall it to rule out any unexpected BIOS changes. I just wanted to eliminate any unrealistic possibilities. What do you think might be the cause? On Intel, I recall needing to enable adaptive voltage or something similar. I only found three options for an offset in my BIOS, but I hesitated to change anything and couldn't find more details.

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NovoMinee
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07-20-2019, 05:13 PM
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Ok, so as a test, I would try this. Reset the BIOS to the default configuration by loading the default configuration settings. If there is a feature to save the current BIOS configuration first, then do so, so you don't have to start from scratch after testing the default configuration. If not, then you'll just have to reconfigure things afterwards but most motherboards allow saving of BIOS profiles to assist with overclocking.
After you reset to the default settings, go back into Windows and make sure you are on the balanced power plan and then check RM to see if the core voltage fluctuates with the default configuration or not.
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NovoMinee
07-20-2019, 05:13 PM #15

Ok, so as a test, I would try this. Reset the BIOS to the default configuration by loading the default configuration settings. If there is a feature to save the current BIOS configuration first, then do so, so you don't have to start from scratch after testing the default configuration. If not, then you'll just have to reconfigure things afterwards but most motherboards allow saving of BIOS profiles to assist with overclocking.
After you reset to the default settings, go back into Windows and make sure you are on the balanced power plan and then check RM to see if the core voltage fluctuates with the default configuration or not.

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tristangimp29
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08-02-2019, 08:55 PM
#16
Yes, I followed those steps earlier today, and the voltage definitely changes depending on RM.
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tristangimp29
08-02-2019, 08:55 PM #16

Yes, I followed those steps earlier today, and the voltage definitely changes depending on RM.

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SkeptiCat
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08-03-2019, 01:24 AM
#17
So what adjustments are being made that affect this outcome? Is it the manual voltage configuration? Let's test one change at a time until we pinpoint the exact issue, since this isn't typical behavior. Also, I'll review your LLC settings to confirm they aren't set to Ultra high or similar values that could prevent droop or fluctuations. Please go through all BIOS options for vcore or C-states that might be misconfigured or turned off. It doesn't make sense for it not to vary unless Global or Advanced C-states are enabled and the processor minimum power state is set to 5%, unless another factor is overriding the voltage behavior.
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SkeptiCat
08-03-2019, 01:24 AM #17

So what adjustments are being made that affect this outcome? Is it the manual voltage configuration? Let's test one change at a time until we pinpoint the exact issue, since this isn't typical behavior. Also, I'll review your LLC settings to confirm they aren't set to Ultra high or similar values that could prevent droop or fluctuations. Please go through all BIOS options for vcore or C-states that might be misconfigured or turned off. It doesn't make sense for it not to vary unless Global or Advanced C-states are enabled and the processor minimum power state is set to 5%, unless another factor is overriding the voltage behavior.

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TheWolfGrave
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08-03-2019, 07:59 PM
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Thank you for your patience, bud. All the points you mentioned in the last paragraph are exactly what I was advised before. Yes, the manual voltage is all I adjust and that's it—no changes beyond that. On Intel chips, I needed to set something like adaptive or offset, but I couldn't find anyone who provided a guide for my BIOS. I'm pretty sure my LLC is configured correctly as it should be from the default setting. It's level 2, just one level away from the highest. I'll go down a level and check.
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TheWolfGrave
08-03-2019, 07:59 PM #18

Thank you for your patience, bud. All the points you mentioned in the last paragraph are exactly what I was advised before. Yes, the manual voltage is all I adjust and that's it—no changes beyond that. On Intel chips, I needed to set something like adaptive or offset, but I couldn't find anyone who provided a guide for my BIOS. I'm pretty sure my LLC is configured correctly as it should be from the default setting. It's level 2, just one level away from the highest. I'll go down a level and check.

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Kimplaze
Member
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08-03-2019, 11:39 PM
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I use a fixed manual voltage on all my Intel systems, along with Intel speed step and a 5% minimum, achieving the desired outcome. There should be an adaptive/offset voltage option for Ryzen as well, since it has worked on every system I've tested. This might be limited by your specific board model, especially for the Pro4, which is a budget model. It's a decent board for its price, but often budget models have reduced settings. You're using the advanced view, correct?
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Kimplaze
08-03-2019, 11:39 PM #19

I use a fixed manual voltage on all my Intel systems, along with Intel speed step and a 5% minimum, achieving the desired outcome. There should be an adaptive/offset voltage option for Ryzen as well, since it has worked on every system I've tested. This might be limited by your specific board model, especially for the Pro4, which is a budget model. It's a decent board for its price, but often budget models have reduced settings. You're using the advanced view, correct?

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Mrblue00
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08-04-2019, 12:35 PM
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Also, confirm whether you're adjusting the actual CPU voltage or just the VID setting. Because under CPU voltage it indicates, specifically: Yet it appears the VID can also be modified, and that isn't the voltage you truly need unless there are significant differences from the systems I've experienced with B450 or Intel platforms during recent overclocking. I don't see any other options in there that would influence this, although, to admit it, they seldom list all available BIOS configurations in the user manuals for these boards.
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Mrblue00
08-04-2019, 12:35 PM #20

Also, confirm whether you're adjusting the actual CPU voltage or just the VID setting. Because under CPU voltage it indicates, specifically: Yet it appears the VID can also be modified, and that isn't the voltage you truly need unless there are significant differences from the systems I've experienced with B450 or Intel platforms during recent overclocking. I don't see any other options in there that would influence this, although, to admit it, they seldom list all available BIOS configurations in the user manuals for these boards.

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