Need some guidance on comparing these laptops?
Need some guidance on comparing these laptops?
Two laptops are being evaluated for gaming use. The first is an MSI GF65 I5 with 6GB RAM, 512GB SSD, and 16GB RAM, paired with a 144Hz monitor and Windows 10. The second is an ASUS TUF A17 Ryzen 7 4800H with 6GB graphics, 1TB HDD, 120Hz monitor, 256GB SSD, 16GB RAM, and Windows 10. Both have 1080p displays, but the Ryzen 7 4800H model features a larger 17.3-inch screen compared to the MSI's 15.6-inch display. Please help so I don't waste my investment on either option.
Let's discuss the processors since that appears to be the key factor to decide, and I believe this will guide you toward your final decision.
If you're unsure whether the processors are from last year, you might find laptops with the latest 11th Gen Intel chips and AMD Ryzen 5000 series available if you increase your budget.
On the other hand, if you're looking to save, then models from a year earlier can offer good value for their price, especially since gaming is the main purpose of these devices.
Returning to the laptops, the MSI model features an i5-10300H quad-core processor with a base speed of 2.5GHz and a turbo speed of 4.5GHz. It has a TDP of 45W and uses a 14nm manufacturing process.
The AMD Ryzen 7 4800H from ASUS is an octa-core processor with a base speed of 2.9GHz and a turbo speed of 4.2GHz, also with a TDP of 45W but built on a 7nm process.
AMD clearly leads in terms of core count. Although Intel has a slightly higher turbo clock, the Ryzen 7’s eight cores more than make up for it and often outperform the i5 significantly.
When looking at power consumption, both CPUs have a TDP of 45W, but Intel uses a 14nm process while AMD employs a 7nm process.
Simply put – Intel tends to be slower, yet it uses the same power as the Ryzen 7 and produces more heat. This means the Ryzen 7 is faster and more efficient in operation.
Additionally, the AMD Ryzen 7 performs better than the Intel Core i5 in many workloads, especially when compared to the Intel Core i7.
In some tasks, the Ryzen 7 4800H also surpasses the Intel Core i7-10750H.
If these terms are confusing, clock speed refers to how fast the processor operates, while TDP indicates the power usage of the CPU. The smaller 7nm size means AMD and Intel chips consume more power, generate more heat, and require proper cooling to maintain performance over time.
In summary – the ASUS TUF A17 outperforms the MSI GF65 by a significant margin.
The MSI GF65 features a hexa-core processor, not a quad-core one, as noted previously. It operates with a base clock of 2.5 GHz and a maximum turbo speed of 4.5 GHz. The chip includes 6 cores and 12 threads running at 4.2 GHz during gaming. Now, the main concern is its performance relative to the Ryzen 4800H octa-core processor. Please share your thoughts on this comparison.
Can you provide the link to the product? The "i5-10300H" you mentioned has quad-core, not hexa core. If it were hexa core, it would be i7-10750H, not i5.
Also, the Ryzen 7 4800H is more powerful than i7-10750H for certain tasks. If you intend to use it for content creation and work with Adobe tools, Intel might be a better option since Adobe is optimized for Intel.
For gaming, AMD remains the superior choice.
You can review the benchmark scores for all three CPUs:
Intel Core i5-10300H SoC - Benchmarks and Specs - NotebookCheck.net Tech
Intel Core i7-10750H Processor - Benchmarks and Specs - NotebookCheck.net Tech
AMD Ryzen 7 4800H Laptop Processor - Benchmarks and Specs - NotebookCheck.net Tech
It appears you misunderstood the CPU model you were referring to. I was discussing the 'i5-10500H' instead of the 'i5-10300H' you mentioned. Please refer to the provided links for more details.
Holy smokes! My mind got confused thinking it was 10300H. No worries.
Let's look at the comparison between i5-10500H and Ryzen 7 4800H.
Intel offers six cores with a 45W TDP and clock speeds around 2.5 to 4.5 GHz, while the Ryzen 7 4800H provides eight cores, 45W TDP, and clock speeds between 2.9 and 4.2 GHz.
The same conclusion holds here too. If we focus on the core advantage, the Ryzen 7 definitely wins in terms of cores. Though the i5-10500H has a bit faster turbo boost, the extra two cores on the Ryzen 7 would more than make up for it and give better performance.
The Intel Core i5-10500H uses a 14nm process, whereas the AMD Ryzen 7 4800H is built on a 7nm chip. The smaller size results in less heat and smoother operation, which also helps with laptop battery life.
Thank you very much for keeping me updated on this discussion. I'll review your most recent response before deciding on the appropriate device.
Unfortunately, the Ryzen 7 4800H is currently unavailable.
I'll remain attentive to any alternative options that match my budget.
Best regards.
I believe you should opt for the ASUS TUF A17 Ryzen 7 4800H. It offers better speed and performance compared to the MSI GF65 I5. Additionally, its screen size is more appropriate for gaming.