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Need assistance with first-time overclocking, please help

Need assistance with first-time overclocking, please help

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B5ET_
Member
75
12-07-2017, 01:22 PM
#1
Hey guys, first time overclocking newbie here.... need help with an appropriate overclock. not wanting to change gear or buy anything else.
HERE ARE MY SPECs:
asus gaming pro carbon AC z270i mobo
intel i7 7700k delidded
cryorig h7 cooler
16gb ram 3000mhz ddr4
gtx 1060
wondering if i can overclock and what values ill need to punch in while overclocking.
idle temps are around 35-39
underload with prime95 for an hour it only got to 75 max
give me some suggestions!
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B5ET_
12-07-2017, 01:22 PM #1

Hey guys, first time overclocking newbie here.... need help with an appropriate overclock. not wanting to change gear or buy anything else.
HERE ARE MY SPECs:
asus gaming pro carbon AC z270i mobo
intel i7 7700k delidded
cryorig h7 cooler
16gb ram 3000mhz ddr4
gtx 1060
wondering if i can overclock and what values ill need to punch in while overclocking.
idle temps are around 35-39
underload with prime95 for an hour it only got to 75 max
give me some suggestions!

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HaloDXXIII
Member
52
12-07-2017, 02:57 PM
#2
I acknowledge that point and don’t want to divert the discussion from the OPs thread. However, for gamers there’s still an inevitable challenge, and you should keep this in mind when it arises.
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HaloDXXIII
12-07-2017, 02:57 PM #2

I acknowledge that point and don’t want to divert the discussion from the OPs thread. However, for gamers there’s still an inevitable challenge, and you should keep this in mind when it arises.

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whiteninja256
Junior Member
1
12-11-2017, 11:58 AM
#3
You're using an H7 cooler with a delidded i7 processor. I'm aware that this setup offers better performance than the stock AMD configuration, but since you have a delidded CPU, you should be aiming for significant improvements. With just five degrees away from the maximum Intel specs for your CPU, it's worth considering these factors: airflow through the case, proper installation of the cooler, and whether the delid work was done correctly.
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whiteninja256
12-11-2017, 11:58 AM #3

You're using an H7 cooler with a delidded i7 processor. I'm aware that this setup offers better performance than the stock AMD configuration, but since you have a delidded CPU, you should be aiming for significant improvements. With just five degrees away from the maximum Intel specs for your CPU, it's worth considering these factors: airflow through the case, proper installation of the cooler, and whether the delid work was done correctly.

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_Chris_MC_
Member
117
12-12-2017, 07:38 PM
#4
I increased the clock to 4.8ghz at a 1.295 Vcore. The best performance reached was around 80c. Thoughts? I still only have one front case fan, the H7 CPU cooler, and one exhaust fan.

Darkbreeze:
You’re using a delidded i7 with just an H7 cooler? I use that cooler on my mother’s AMD setup because it performs better than the stock one. With a delidded CPU, you’d expect significant improvements. Since you’re only five degrees away from the maximum Intel spec for your CPU, you might want to consider this more carefully.

What version of Prime95 were you using?
Which specific test did you run in Prime95?
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_Chris_MC_
12-12-2017, 07:38 PM #4

I increased the clock to 4.8ghz at a 1.295 Vcore. The best performance reached was around 80c. Thoughts? I still only have one front case fan, the H7 CPU cooler, and one exhaust fan.

Darkbreeze:
You’re using a delidded i7 with just an H7 cooler? I use that cooler on my mother’s AMD setup because it performs better than the stock one. With a delidded CPU, you’d expect significant improvements. Since you’re only five degrees away from the maximum Intel spec for your CPU, you might want to consider this more carefully.

What version of Prime95 were you using?
Which specific test did you run in Prime95?

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DurpVolts
Member
173
12-12-2017, 08:02 PM
#5
It should be okay there. I operate my 7700k at 4.8 with 1.26 volts using a 280mm AIO. Temperatures are normal and most coolers perform well at that voltage. If you begin pushing up to 1.4, you'll need something more powerful.
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DurpVolts
12-12-2017, 08:02 PM #5

It should be okay there. I operate my 7700k at 4.8 with 1.26 volts using a 280mm AIO. Temperatures are normal and most coolers perform well at that voltage. If you begin pushing up to 1.4, you'll need something more powerful.

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Salty___Bud
Member
246
12-13-2017, 06:37 PM
#6
Actually, I don't recall that. Did I assist you in a prior discussion? If you'd like, I can refresh your memory using a link to that thread. Thanks.
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Salty___Bud
12-13-2017, 06:37 PM #6

Actually, I don't recall that. Did I assist you in a prior discussion? If you'd like, I can refresh your memory using a link to that thread. Thanks.

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Quizmaster_
Junior Member
2
12-14-2017, 12:05 PM
#7
I'll send you the screenshots once I'm back if you're interested. The AIDA 64 CPU ran smoothly for an hour without any problems.
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Quizmaster_
12-14-2017, 12:05 PM #7

I'll send you the screenshots once I'm back if you're interested. The AIDA 64 CPU ran smoothly for an hour without any problems.

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xjx1130
Junior Member
19
12-14-2017, 07:28 PM
#8
topboy: Hey guys, first time overclocking newbie here.... need help with an appropriate overclock. not wanting to change gear or buy anything else. HERE ARE MY SPECs: asus gaming pro carbon AC z270i mobo intel i7 7700k delidded cryorig h7 cooler 16gb ram 3000mhz ddr4 gtx 1060 or... ------------------------------------------------- Which is it? Or both?
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xjx1130
12-14-2017, 07:28 PM #8

topboy: Hey guys, first time overclocking newbie here.... need help with an appropriate overclock. not wanting to change gear or buy anything else. HERE ARE MY SPECs: asus gaming pro carbon AC z270i mobo intel i7 7700k delidded cryorig h7 cooler 16gb ram 3000mhz ddr4 gtx 1060 or... ------------------------------------------------- Which is it? Or both?

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Ender_Craft47
Posting Freak
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12-29-2017, 11:10 PM
#9
bmockeg :
@darkbreez, I will send you screenshots when I get home if you like. I ran AIDA 64 CPU for an hour no issues.
One hour of running Aida64 doesn't mean your system is stable. Aida itself recommends a minimum of 12 hours running their FPU stress test. And that's only a smaller part of the overall picture. There is, practically, no single test that will ensure stability.
When you have run multiple tests for the recommended length of time, that is when you can consider your overclock "stable". I, and many others, recommend a combination of tests.
Personally, I like 8 hours running Prime95 custom Blend mode. Choose Blend mode, then click on Custom. Input a min FFT of 512 and a max FFT of 4096. Enter an amount in the memory field that is equal to approximately 25% less than whatever your system is currently showing as free/not in use. Many supposedly stable overclocks will error out in this test showing it is not even reasonably stable. It is however possible for memory configuration or fault errors to cause this test to fail, highly likely in fact if something is wrong, but this should not be an issue if you are using the proper procedures because your CPU overclock should be established and verified as stable long before you ever do any overclocking of your memory or even setting it to its XMP profile settings. Default memory settings should always be used when first verifying the stability of your CPU overclock. If you prefer though, you can simply run the default Blend mode test in Prime version 26.6 or a newer version with an altered "local.txt" file that inhibits the use of AVX instructions being run since newer versions do not run realistic levels of AVX usage.
Next, if you can pass that, run the Realbench stress test for 8 hours. If you are only initially performing checkpoint testing along the way to a higher overclock, then you can probably get away with only 4 hours testing here but you may find later that at a higher clock you fail during an 8 hour test and may have to come back and run the full 8 hour test again at the lower clock speed to verify if the problem was actually only at the higher clock speed or if it did not in fact pass 8 hours at the lower clock speed/different voltage setting, as well.
If you can do those two things, and if you like, also run the recommended 12 hour Aida64 test, then I'd agree that for all intents and purposes you have a stable overclock BUT I will not agree that you can do any of this with that CPU, at that clock frequency, with THAT voltage setting. Likely, that voltage sensor value is what you are seeing within your monitoring utility, not what the ACTUAL setting in the bios is set at.
If you can show me the actual core voltage, LLC, offset and frequency settings in a bios screenshot, plus the results of these two stress tests I've outlined along with an HWinfo screenshot while running it, we can have a conversation. Otherwise, it's all just blah, blah, blah. Don't take this personally. It's what I expect of myself and everyone else as well. I would tell anybody, even somebody with a lot more experience than I have, something along the same lines because it's what I've been told in the past by overclockers with far more experience than you or I will likely ever have.
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Ender_Craft47
12-29-2017, 11:10 PM #9

bmockeg :
@darkbreez, I will send you screenshots when I get home if you like. I ran AIDA 64 CPU for an hour no issues.
One hour of running Aida64 doesn't mean your system is stable. Aida itself recommends a minimum of 12 hours running their FPU stress test. And that's only a smaller part of the overall picture. There is, practically, no single test that will ensure stability.
When you have run multiple tests for the recommended length of time, that is when you can consider your overclock "stable". I, and many others, recommend a combination of tests.
Personally, I like 8 hours running Prime95 custom Blend mode. Choose Blend mode, then click on Custom. Input a min FFT of 512 and a max FFT of 4096. Enter an amount in the memory field that is equal to approximately 25% less than whatever your system is currently showing as free/not in use. Many supposedly stable overclocks will error out in this test showing it is not even reasonably stable. It is however possible for memory configuration or fault errors to cause this test to fail, highly likely in fact if something is wrong, but this should not be an issue if you are using the proper procedures because your CPU overclock should be established and verified as stable long before you ever do any overclocking of your memory or even setting it to its XMP profile settings. Default memory settings should always be used when first verifying the stability of your CPU overclock. If you prefer though, you can simply run the default Blend mode test in Prime version 26.6 or a newer version with an altered "local.txt" file that inhibits the use of AVX instructions being run since newer versions do not run realistic levels of AVX usage.
Next, if you can pass that, run the Realbench stress test for 8 hours. If you are only initially performing checkpoint testing along the way to a higher overclock, then you can probably get away with only 4 hours testing here but you may find later that at a higher clock you fail during an 8 hour test and may have to come back and run the full 8 hour test again at the lower clock speed to verify if the problem was actually only at the higher clock speed or if it did not in fact pass 8 hours at the lower clock speed/different voltage setting, as well.
If you can do those two things, and if you like, also run the recommended 12 hour Aida64 test, then I'd agree that for all intents and purposes you have a stable overclock BUT I will not agree that you can do any of this with that CPU, at that clock frequency, with THAT voltage setting. Likely, that voltage sensor value is what you are seeing within your monitoring utility, not what the ACTUAL setting in the bios is set at.
If you can show me the actual core voltage, LLC, offset and frequency settings in a bios screenshot, plus the results of these two stress tests I've outlined along with an HWinfo screenshot while running it, we can have a conversation. Otherwise, it's all just blah, blah, blah. Don't take this personally. It's what I expect of myself and everyone else as well. I would tell anybody, even somebody with a lot more experience than I have, something along the same lines because it's what I've been told in the past by overclockers with far more experience than you or I will likely ever have.

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Ballin_
Junior Member
14
01-18-2018, 05:53 PM
#10
Everything is fine. It's configured to 1.26 in bios fixed mode, level 1 load line, and I've played for hours without any problems. That's sufficient for me right now. It might not be considered stable by standard definitions, but I'm not experiencing any issues. For me, a fully functioning computer is what stability means.
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Ballin_
01-18-2018, 05:53 PM #10

Everything is fine. It's configured to 1.26 in bios fixed mode, level 1 load line, and I've played for hours without any problems. That's sufficient for me right now. It might not be considered stable by standard definitions, but I'm not experiencing any issues. For me, a fully functioning computer is what stability means.

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