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Need assistance starting a PC repair or refurbish business but concerned about software rights

Need assistance starting a PC repair or refurbish business but concerned about software rights

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thingul
Member
136
05-29-2016, 03:52 PM
#1
Hello, this is my debut post, so please forgive any mix-up in categories. I’ve been working on computers since middle school—about 11 years now. Around 2017 I started buying broken laptops online and at local shops to sell through platforms like eBay, Offerup, Craigslist, etc. It turned out to be quite profitable, as I usually earned at least double what I spent. Most of these devices had missing parts like HDDs or RAM. I’d purchase used drives in bulk, thoroughly test them, and install fresh Windows versions (usually 7, now often 10 since 7 isn’t supported). I’m confident in my work and stand out from many competitors because I provide warranty and support. Whenever someone faces issues, I’m always there to help. I refurbish well, upgrade systems, and ensure smooth performance with all drivers. Most clients are satisfied, which has attracted more customers—so much so that people often ask if I can fix their machines too. I also build and resell gaming PCs, desktops, PS4 consoles, and Xbox One devices (often acquired through trades). I’m skilled at communicating with people and explaining technical stuff clearly.

The biggest challenge is licensing. Most of the Windows 10 PCs I’ve sold recently have been activated using old Windows 7 keys on their stickers. I read that this is illegal since July 2016, even if they’re technically activated. I don’t use activators or similar tools. Some forums mention it’s against the law, which makes me understand better. For my records, I don’t use activators and avoid buying retail keys for $140 anymore—they’re too expensive. I’ve been reading about needing new license keys to upgrade unsupported Windows versions, but that’s not practical for these older machines.

I’m worried about running a legal business. I’m currently just fixing PCs from home, which is my main income source. The fear of being audited or sued is real. I don’t want to end up in the same situation as someone mentioned online. I’m afraid of losing everything if things go wrong.

I need advice on what to do right now.
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thingul
05-29-2016, 03:52 PM #1

Hello, this is my debut post, so please forgive any mix-up in categories. I’ve been working on computers since middle school—about 11 years now. Around 2017 I started buying broken laptops online and at local shops to sell through platforms like eBay, Offerup, Craigslist, etc. It turned out to be quite profitable, as I usually earned at least double what I spent. Most of these devices had missing parts like HDDs or RAM. I’d purchase used drives in bulk, thoroughly test them, and install fresh Windows versions (usually 7, now often 10 since 7 isn’t supported). I’m confident in my work and stand out from many competitors because I provide warranty and support. Whenever someone faces issues, I’m always there to help. I refurbish well, upgrade systems, and ensure smooth performance with all drivers. Most clients are satisfied, which has attracted more customers—so much so that people often ask if I can fix their machines too. I also build and resell gaming PCs, desktops, PS4 consoles, and Xbox One devices (often acquired through trades). I’m skilled at communicating with people and explaining technical stuff clearly.

The biggest challenge is licensing. Most of the Windows 10 PCs I’ve sold recently have been activated using old Windows 7 keys on their stickers. I read that this is illegal since July 2016, even if they’re technically activated. I don’t use activators or similar tools. Some forums mention it’s against the law, which makes me understand better. For my records, I don’t use activators and avoid buying retail keys for $140 anymore—they’re too expensive. I’ve been reading about needing new license keys to upgrade unsupported Windows versions, but that’s not practical for these older machines.

I’m worried about running a legal business. I’m currently just fixing PCs from home, which is my main income source. The fear of being audited or sued is real. I don’t want to end up in the same situation as someone mentioned online. I’m afraid of losing everything if things go wrong.

I need advice on what to do right now.

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T_KPalace
Junior Member
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05-30-2016, 09:47 AM
#2
Here’s a clearer version of your message:

You have limited options here. To stay fully compliant, you need to purchase keys and sell them to users. You could provide a USB stick with a Windows 10 installer for each sale, but installing a trial version might still raise legal concerns.
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T_KPalace
05-30-2016, 09:47 AM #2

Here’s a clearer version of your message:

You have limited options here. To stay fully compliant, you need to purchase keys and sell them to users. You could provide a USB stick with a Windows 10 installer for each sale, but installing a trial version might still raise legal concerns.

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Nagisa_Kun_
Member
62
06-06-2016, 09:21 AM
#3
You're stuck between a rock and a hard place. Really a massive issue for most people starting businesses is startup capital and sorry to say you're in the same spot. If you can't afford the bulk prices you're pretty much screwed if you want to keep prices the same. So you either have to raise your price which is only viable if the local market supports it or you have to buy bulk legal keys and take the hit.
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Nagisa_Kun_
06-06-2016, 09:21 AM #3

You're stuck between a rock and a hard place. Really a massive issue for most people starting businesses is startup capital and sorry to say you're in the same spot. If you can't afford the bulk prices you're pretty much screwed if you want to keep prices the same. So you either have to raise your price which is only viable if the local market supports it or you have to buy bulk legal keys and take the hit.

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Rhinosaurous52
Junior Member
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06-06-2016, 11:23 AM
#4
Reach out to Microsoft to check for updated programs that could replace the refurbisher service. It’s likely they offer alternatives now.
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Rhinosaurous52
06-06-2016, 11:23 AM #4

Reach out to Microsoft to check for updated programs that could replace the refurbisher service. It’s likely they offer alternatives now.

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SUPPERFLUFFY
Member
161
06-06-2016, 11:37 AM
#5
One option is just sell the license at cost. You may not make much at first but after things pick up you can afford to get you a distributors license from MS.
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SUPPERFLUFFY
06-06-2016, 11:37 AM #5

One option is just sell the license at cost. You may not make much at first but after things pick up you can afford to get you a distributors license from MS.

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Draconblade
Member
54
06-14-2016, 09:53 AM
#6
Every product you offer with Windows requires a confirmed product key. If the unit includes a COA label, you may reinstall the previous Windows version or upgrade the key via Microsoft Refurbish. Without a COA sticker, you must buy a new key and reinstall Windows—this applies to all versions, including Windows 10 that isn’t included. This applies under the Microsoft Refurbishing Program, which is closing this year and registration is no longer accepted. The device also needs a COA label. You’ll either pay $140, contact a Microsoft Volume Licensing partner for bulk purchases, switch to another OS, or sell without an OS. Distributing unlicensed Microsoft software is illegal.
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Draconblade
06-14-2016, 09:53 AM #6

Every product you offer with Windows requires a confirmed product key. If the unit includes a COA label, you may reinstall the previous Windows version or upgrade the key via Microsoft Refurbish. Without a COA sticker, you must buy a new key and reinstall Windows—this applies to all versions, including Windows 10 that isn’t included. This applies under the Microsoft Refurbishing Program, which is closing this year and registration is no longer accepted. The device also needs a COA label. You’ll either pay $140, contact a Microsoft Volume Licensing partner for bulk purchases, switch to another OS, or sell without an OS. Distributing unlicensed Microsoft software is illegal.