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Need assistance setting up a PC for your dad?

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10-14-2022, 02:15 AM
#11
For reference, I'm assembling a PC with an RX6600 and Ryzen 5 5600, 32gb DDR4. I've heard the RX 9060 XT is set to release on the fifth. Should it be better to wait for it and spend $70? Also, I think I might need the card before June 12th since I'm traveling for the summer and planning a gift. Thank you!
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TheMightyBritt
10-14-2022, 02:15 AM #11

For reference, I'm assembling a PC with an RX6600 and Ryzen 5 5600, 32gb DDR4. I've heard the RX 9060 XT is set to release on the fifth. Should it be better to wait for it and spend $70? Also, I think I might need the card before June 12th since I'm traveling for the summer and planning a gift. Thank you!

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SuperWillman
Member
131
10-14-2022, 03:26 AM
#12
Let’s check if there’s a Microcenter nearby. They offer excellent deals and likely better GPU availability. The 9060xt is expected to be significantly quicker than the 6600, possibly by 41%. Be sure to opt for the 16GB model if you decide that path.
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SuperWillman
10-14-2022, 03:26 AM #12

Let’s check if there’s a Microcenter nearby. They offer excellent deals and likely better GPU availability. The 9060xt is expected to be significantly quicker than the 6600, possibly by 41%. Be sure to opt for the 16GB model if you decide that path.

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GGZE_Shaww
Junior Member
28
10-14-2022, 04:30 AM
#13
If you need more convincing, read this post about Thermaltake Smart PSUs. https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/commen..._disliked/ The reason why Smart PSUs got a bad reputation is because they used a very old design known as "double-forward with group technology". If you load the +12V rail in a group-regulated PSU with a powerful GPU, the +5V and +3.3V rails can drift outside their limits (±5% for 5V and ±4% for 3.3V). Excessively low (or high) voltage on the 5V or 3.3V rails is bad news for your motherboard and other components. Group regulated PSUs do not provide stable voltage on all three rails when one rail is heavily loaded. In addition there's doubt if Smart PSUs include all the necessary under/over voltage/current/temperature protection limits. If you cheap out on protection and the PSU catches fire, it could destroy the whole PC. To quote from the above link: "I’ve used the 80+ whites before and they’re so widely disliked because they’re just plain unreliable at best and dangerous to hardware at worst. Out of around 30 that I’ve used 5 failed only taking the psu with it, 7 failed taking additional hardware with it, and 2 failed taking external hardware with them. They were spread over the course of around 4 years but a failure is a failure." A full review involves connecting thousands of dollars worth of digital programmable loads to the PSU and checking it over a wide range of output powers. The reviewer sometimes does a partial strip down of the PSU, unsoldering capacitors and MOSFETs, to check circuit design and component quality. You don't see this level of testing in simple reviews, which merely describe the PSU's outward appearance, then quote from the manufacturer's product page verbatim. Not a real test. If you're considering a $45 PSUs, you're taking a risk. Not quite as bad as a $25 fire bomb, but not brilliant either. A cheap PSU might work for years in a basic PC without a separate GPU, but it's similar to buying cheap remolds for a sports car. Not worth the risk. Really cheap PSUs come with a 3 year warranty or maybe just 1 year. The manufacturer simply isn't prepared to guarantee it any longer. Better PSUs have a 5-year warranty. Next, there's 7-years, 10-years and finally 12-years. Which PSU do you think has a better design and good quality components, a 3-year waranty or a 10-year warranty PSU? Quality and safety cost money. I appreciate you may be working with a limited budget, but would you mind if your whole investment went up in smoke due to a cheap PSU failure? If your father will be running Microsoft Flight Simulator 2025, you should read this:- https://www.positioniseverything.net/bes...ying_Guide Microsoft have increased hardware requirements considerably with the 2025 release. CPU Requirements ​ The processor is the brain of your flight simulator experience. For smooth flying, look for: High clock speeds (4.0 GHz or higher) Multiple cores (at least 6 cores recommended) Newer generations (for better performance) ​ Graphics Card Considerations ​ The graphics card will make your virtual skies look amazing. Here’s what to look for: Spec Minimum Recommended VRAM 8 GB 12+ GB Generation Current-1 Current Performance Level Mid-range High-end RAM and Storage ​ Flight Simulator 2025 is hungry for memory. We suggest: 32 GB RAM at minimum for smoother gameplay SSD storage is a must-have (not optional!) At least 150 GB free space for the base game Some people recommend 64GB RAM or even 96GB RAM for Flight Simulator which is getting "silly". You can get by with 32GB, or 16GB if you're desperate. https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/is-...4gb/704261 Good luck with the build.
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GGZE_Shaww
10-14-2022, 04:30 AM #13

If you need more convincing, read this post about Thermaltake Smart PSUs. https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/commen..._disliked/ The reason why Smart PSUs got a bad reputation is because they used a very old design known as "double-forward with group technology". If you load the +12V rail in a group-regulated PSU with a powerful GPU, the +5V and +3.3V rails can drift outside their limits (±5% for 5V and ±4% for 3.3V). Excessively low (or high) voltage on the 5V or 3.3V rails is bad news for your motherboard and other components. Group regulated PSUs do not provide stable voltage on all three rails when one rail is heavily loaded. In addition there's doubt if Smart PSUs include all the necessary under/over voltage/current/temperature protection limits. If you cheap out on protection and the PSU catches fire, it could destroy the whole PC. To quote from the above link: "I’ve used the 80+ whites before and they’re so widely disliked because they’re just plain unreliable at best and dangerous to hardware at worst. Out of around 30 that I’ve used 5 failed only taking the psu with it, 7 failed taking additional hardware with it, and 2 failed taking external hardware with them. They were spread over the course of around 4 years but a failure is a failure." A full review involves connecting thousands of dollars worth of digital programmable loads to the PSU and checking it over a wide range of output powers. The reviewer sometimes does a partial strip down of the PSU, unsoldering capacitors and MOSFETs, to check circuit design and component quality. You don't see this level of testing in simple reviews, which merely describe the PSU's outward appearance, then quote from the manufacturer's product page verbatim. Not a real test. If you're considering a $45 PSUs, you're taking a risk. Not quite as bad as a $25 fire bomb, but not brilliant either. A cheap PSU might work for years in a basic PC without a separate GPU, but it's similar to buying cheap remolds for a sports car. Not worth the risk. Really cheap PSUs come with a 3 year warranty or maybe just 1 year. The manufacturer simply isn't prepared to guarantee it any longer. Better PSUs have a 5-year warranty. Next, there's 7-years, 10-years and finally 12-years. Which PSU do you think has a better design and good quality components, a 3-year waranty or a 10-year warranty PSU? Quality and safety cost money. I appreciate you may be working with a limited budget, but would you mind if your whole investment went up in smoke due to a cheap PSU failure? If your father will be running Microsoft Flight Simulator 2025, you should read this:- https://www.positioniseverything.net/bes...ying_Guide Microsoft have increased hardware requirements considerably with the 2025 release. CPU Requirements ​ The processor is the brain of your flight simulator experience. For smooth flying, look for: High clock speeds (4.0 GHz or higher) Multiple cores (at least 6 cores recommended) Newer generations (for better performance) ​ Graphics Card Considerations ​ The graphics card will make your virtual skies look amazing. Here’s what to look for: Spec Minimum Recommended VRAM 8 GB 12+ GB Generation Current-1 Current Performance Level Mid-range High-end RAM and Storage ​ Flight Simulator 2025 is hungry for memory. We suggest: 32 GB RAM at minimum for smoother gameplay SSD storage is a must-have (not optional!) At least 150 GB free space for the base game Some people recommend 64GB RAM or even 96GB RAM for Flight Simulator which is getting "silly". You can get by with 32GB, or 16GB if you're desperate. https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/is-...4gb/704261 Good luck with the build.

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Lovechurros
Member
197
10-30-2022, 08:27 AM
#14
Additionally, the component quality—like VRMs and their parts, baseboard thickness, trace quality, conformal and protective coatings, and other variations—all play a role in determining why one board costs more than another. These factors definitely vary, even within the same chipset family, and lower-cost boards are intentionally priced that way. Mid-tier boards are usually my suggestion because they offer solid quality, though they may miss some features present on higher-end models. Low-end boards are straightforward but lack advanced capabilities. It’s not impossible to find a decent board at a fair price, but it does need some research and experience. As you know.
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Lovechurros
10-30-2022, 08:27 AM #14

Additionally, the component quality—like VRMs and their parts, baseboard thickness, trace quality, conformal and protective coatings, and other variations—all play a role in determining why one board costs more than another. These factors definitely vary, even within the same chipset family, and lower-cost boards are intentionally priced that way. Mid-tier boards are usually my suggestion because they offer solid quality, though they may miss some features present on higher-end models. Low-end boards are straightforward but lack advanced capabilities. It’s not impossible to find a decent board at a fair price, but it does need some research and experience. As you know.

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kate88554
Member
65
11-18-2022, 10:11 PM
#15
Thanks for finishing my post. Was on my phone and only had time for a quick reply.
Figured the follow up questions would get the rest out from the group.
But you are definitely 100% correct here. So much to consider it's always overwhelming if your not experienced in the is and outs.
At least a 5600 is low power enough that the vrms and power delivery are not top end required
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kate88554
11-18-2022, 10:11 PM #15

Thanks for finishing my post. Was on my phone and only had time for a quick reply.
Figured the follow up questions would get the rest out from the group.
But you are definitely 100% correct here. So much to consider it's always overwhelming if your not experienced in the is and outs.
At least a 5600 is low power enough that the vrms and power delivery are not top end required

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radpool97
Member
78
11-19-2022, 10:16 AM
#16
Keep in mind, this also covers a very effective single stack Thermalright cooler that will prevent your father from getting completely overwhelmed by the frequent AMD cooling adjustments. I've assembled numerous Ryzen systems now and own two personally; I'm not making a big deal when I say you can manage with one of the standard Ryzen coolers, but you definitely shouldn't rely on them if you don't. They're sufficient to stop things from overheating, yet the constant speed changes and rapid operation will diminish any pleasure you might feel.
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radpool97
11-19-2022, 10:16 AM #16

Keep in mind, this also covers a very effective single stack Thermalright cooler that will prevent your father from getting completely overwhelmed by the frequent AMD cooling adjustments. I've assembled numerous Ryzen systems now and own two personally; I'm not making a big deal when I say you can manage with one of the standard Ryzen coolers, but you definitely shouldn't rely on them if you don't. They're sufficient to stop things from overheating, yet the constant speed changes and rapid operation will diminish any pleasure you might feel.

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lolzinho_mouse
Junior Member
6
11-19-2022, 11:48 AM
#17
Oh, I was caught up in all those reviews about a game controller. Everyone praised it, and sure, the build quality is solid—but when it comes to ergonomics, it’s the worst experience I’ve ever had holding one.
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lolzinho_mouse
11-19-2022, 11:48 AM #17

Oh, I was caught up in all those reviews about a game controller. Everyone praised it, and sure, the build quality is solid—but when it comes to ergonomics, it’s the worst experience I’ve ever had holding one.

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Epicube_warden
Junior Member
3
11-25-2022, 05:30 PM
#18
this would be a significant risk. all recent releases sell out instantly at double the MSRP and remain unavailable for months at high prices.
so yah it's probably a much stronger card, but unless you're ready to pay double or even triple the cost to get one quickly, then your best option is to buy what you can now at nearly the original price if you manage to find it.
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Epicube_warden
11-25-2022, 05:30 PM #18

this would be a significant risk. all recent releases sell out instantly at double the MSRP and remain unavailable for months at high prices.
so yah it's probably a much stronger card, but unless you're ready to pay double or even triple the cost to get one quickly, then your best option is to buy what you can now at nearly the original price if you manage to find it.

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IIGuiGalouLT
Member
193
11-27-2022, 04:15 AM
#19
I was talking PSU.
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IIGuiGalouLT
11-27-2022, 04:15 AM #19

I was talking PSU.

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gio_the_best
Junior Member
19
11-27-2022, 06:58 PM
#20
Hello, I'm setting up a PC for my dad who wants to play Microsoft Flight Simulator. Is this a suitable build? Would spending an extra $20 on an A tier PSU like the Core Reactor be worthwhile? Also, since he'll be flying internationally for a long time, do you have any advice to prevent damage and consider packing everything in his carry-on? Thank you!
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gio_the_best
11-27-2022, 06:58 PM #20

Hello, I'm setting up a PC for my dad who wants to play Microsoft Flight Simulator. Is this a suitable build? Would spending an extra $20 on an A tier PSU like the Core Reactor be worthwhile? Also, since he'll be flying internationally for a long time, do you have any advice to prevent damage and consider packing everything in his carry-on? Thank you!

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