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Monitor ping and packet loss with PCIe WiFi cards

Monitor ping and packet loss with PCIe WiFi cards

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rento113
Junior Member
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03-17-2016, 09:28 PM
#1
I'm feeling quite upset about this problem. I've been searching online, but I believe I need additional assistance to pinpoint my issue more accurately. Let me clarify. A few months ago, my USB WiFi adapter stopped working and I switched to a PCIe model hoping for better performance. It seemed to function well initially, but then I experienced frequent lag spikes and packet loss during online games, especially in Apex. I assumed the problem was with my ISP since they were also facing similar network issues at that time. My sibling nearby had the same experience, which confirmed there was a broader issue. That's enough to know. Eventually, I replaced my modem and it worked, but the lag and packet loss persisted. Later, I tried using Ethernet instead, which eliminated the lag entirely. It seems the card might have been damaged or overheated, possibly due to being close to my GPU during frequent gaming sessions. After saving up, I upgraded to a more expensive PCIe card and even a Gigabyte model, but the problem continued. Now I'm trying to figure out what's wrong without much experience in network troubleshooting. What should I do next? I've been using the 'ping' command in cmd with '-t' and watching the response time while adjusting Windows settings. Nothing seems to help. The time is approaching where a visit to a technician might be necessary. The ping spikes and packet loss are still present, even when gaming. Most online help threads suggest turning off power management or reinstalling Windows, but I want to avoid those. I'm not very familiar with PCIe cards or advanced troubleshooting, and I don't have much background in network issues. What's the best first step? I've noticed a significant increase in latency—sometimes from 23ms to over 600ms—while testing on Windows. This is really frustrating. I've read about similar problems on forums, but the solutions seem vague or risky. One idea that came to mind is whether my GPU might be limiting bandwidth through PCIe, especially during gaming. Streaming appears normal otherwise. It's only noticeable when the GPU is active. I also learned from a recent update that my apartment has multiple routers/modems, which might affect performance. This extra equipment could be contributing. I'm trying to avoid any steps that might damage my hardware or require technical knowledge I don't have. What should I try next?
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rento113
03-17-2016, 09:28 PM #1

I'm feeling quite upset about this problem. I've been searching online, but I believe I need additional assistance to pinpoint my issue more accurately. Let me clarify. A few months ago, my USB WiFi adapter stopped working and I switched to a PCIe model hoping for better performance. It seemed to function well initially, but then I experienced frequent lag spikes and packet loss during online games, especially in Apex. I assumed the problem was with my ISP since they were also facing similar network issues at that time. My sibling nearby had the same experience, which confirmed there was a broader issue. That's enough to know. Eventually, I replaced my modem and it worked, but the lag and packet loss persisted. Later, I tried using Ethernet instead, which eliminated the lag entirely. It seems the card might have been damaged or overheated, possibly due to being close to my GPU during frequent gaming sessions. After saving up, I upgraded to a more expensive PCIe card and even a Gigabyte model, but the problem continued. Now I'm trying to figure out what's wrong without much experience in network troubleshooting. What should I do next? I've been using the 'ping' command in cmd with '-t' and watching the response time while adjusting Windows settings. Nothing seems to help. The time is approaching where a visit to a technician might be necessary. The ping spikes and packet loss are still present, even when gaming. Most online help threads suggest turning off power management or reinstalling Windows, but I want to avoid those. I'm not very familiar with PCIe cards or advanced troubleshooting, and I don't have much background in network issues. What's the best first step? I've noticed a significant increase in latency—sometimes from 23ms to over 600ms—while testing on Windows. This is really frustrating. I've read about similar problems on forums, but the solutions seem vague or risky. One idea that came to mind is whether my GPU might be limiting bandwidth through PCIe, especially during gaming. Streaming appears normal otherwise. It's only noticeable when the GPU is active. I also learned from a recent update that my apartment has multiple routers/modems, which might affect performance. This extra equipment could be contributing. I'm trying to avoid any steps that might damage my hardware or require technical knowledge I don't have. What should I try next?

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AA_Esser
Member
181
03-17-2016, 10:44 PM
#2
Let’s address this clearly. Wireless connections tend to experience these sporadic ping increases. From your own observations, a wired link provides the most reliable (stable, steady, quick) performance for your modem or router, particularly when playing online games. Even with the latest wireless tech, interference remains a challenge—whether from nearby electrical devices, competing WiFi networks, or physical obstacles like walls and metal structures. Signal strength naturally diminishes over distance. To improve your current setup, consider moving your antenna to a higher position and away from walls, positioning your wireless access point in a central spot where the signal spreads evenly, and ensuring a clear line of sight between your device and the access point. On your adapter, try boosting output power, disabling power-saving features, and reducing roaming behavior. For the access point side, optimize channel usage by using a WiFi analyzer to check band usage on both 2.4GHz and 5GHz bands, then adjust antenna power only as needed for your space. Upgrading to a WiFi 6 adapter offers little advantage unless you also install a compatible WiFi 6 access point. The technology only delivers value when both devices support it. Also, many PCIe WiFi 6 adapters—especially those labeled with AX200—are essentially rebrands of Intel AX200 chips. Different manufacturers add extra cooling or antennas, but overall performance stays similar. Rely on facts rather than marketing claims.
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AA_Esser
03-17-2016, 10:44 PM #2

Let’s address this clearly. Wireless connections tend to experience these sporadic ping increases. From your own observations, a wired link provides the most reliable (stable, steady, quick) performance for your modem or router, particularly when playing online games. Even with the latest wireless tech, interference remains a challenge—whether from nearby electrical devices, competing WiFi networks, or physical obstacles like walls and metal structures. Signal strength naturally diminishes over distance. To improve your current setup, consider moving your antenna to a higher position and away from walls, positioning your wireless access point in a central spot where the signal spreads evenly, and ensuring a clear line of sight between your device and the access point. On your adapter, try boosting output power, disabling power-saving features, and reducing roaming behavior. For the access point side, optimize channel usage by using a WiFi analyzer to check band usage on both 2.4GHz and 5GHz bands, then adjust antenna power only as needed for your space. Upgrading to a WiFi 6 adapter offers little advantage unless you also install a compatible WiFi 6 access point. The technology only delivers value when both devices support it. Also, many PCIe WiFi 6 adapters—especially those labeled with AX200—are essentially rebrands of Intel AX200 chips. Different manufacturers add extra cooling or antennas, but overall performance stays similar. Rely on facts rather than marketing claims.

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ApeBarrel
Member
214
03-18-2016, 05:40 AM
#3
I agree with you. Over the years, I've relied heavily on WiFi for gaming and daily use. I'm aware of its drawbacks like lag and delays, but this isn't just typical performance issues—it feels like something is fundamentally wrong. It's not simply a comparison between WiFi and Ethernet; my experience suggests a deeper problem. I've noticed inconsistencies between the two modems in our building, with one performing poorly while the other works fine. Upgrading to WiFi 6 was mainly about future readiness, as I used a basic dual-band adapter. To truly benefit from WiFi 6, I need a router that supports it. I'm familiar enough with hardware to understand what's needed, but the real challenge lies in adjusting networking settings and software configurations. I tried tweaking power management and roaming behavior, but I haven't examined the adapter's power output yet. I've only made minor changes like port-forwarding and assigning static IPs, but I'm not sure if those will resolve the issue. I plan to revisit this tomorrow, moving the router as much as possible, and see how it affects performance. At this point, I'm starting to suspect an ISP problem. Thank you for offering additional avenues to explore.
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ApeBarrel
03-18-2016, 05:40 AM #3

I agree with you. Over the years, I've relied heavily on WiFi for gaming and daily use. I'm aware of its drawbacks like lag and delays, but this isn't just typical performance issues—it feels like something is fundamentally wrong. It's not simply a comparison between WiFi and Ethernet; my experience suggests a deeper problem. I've noticed inconsistencies between the two modems in our building, with one performing poorly while the other works fine. Upgrading to WiFi 6 was mainly about future readiness, as I used a basic dual-band adapter. To truly benefit from WiFi 6, I need a router that supports it. I'm familiar enough with hardware to understand what's needed, but the real challenge lies in adjusting networking settings and software configurations. I tried tweaking power management and roaming behavior, but I haven't examined the adapter's power output yet. I've only made minor changes like port-forwarding and assigning static IPs, but I'm not sure if those will resolve the issue. I plan to revisit this tomorrow, moving the router as much as possible, and see how it affects performance. At this point, I'm starting to suspect an ISP problem. Thank you for offering additional avenues to explore.

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Jesco
Member
50
03-23-2016, 10:51 PM
#4
Please run the WiFi analyzer. Share the visual results for both 2.4GHz and 5GHz channels.
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Jesco
03-23-2016, 10:51 PM #4

Please run the WiFi analyzer. Share the visual results for both 2.4GHz and 5GHz channels.

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JacobLouis30
Posting Freak
856
03-27-2016, 01:31 AM
#5
Well, it seems your network is really busy on the 2.4GHz frequency! (Maybe you misidentified them.) If you're on that band, the issue is likely there. Try switching off other devices from the 2.4GHz channel and lower the power if you can. Your pictures aren't sharp, but I can spot overlapping channels even in the 5GHz range. Check which channel matches your network name and see if any others are using it on the same frequency.
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JacobLouis30
03-27-2016, 01:31 AM #5

Well, it seems your network is really busy on the 2.4GHz frequency! (Maybe you misidentified them.) If you're on that band, the issue is likely there. Try switching off other devices from the 2.4GHz channel and lower the power if you can. Your pictures aren't sharp, but I can spot overlapping channels even in the 5GHz range. Check which channel matches your network name and see if any others are using it on the same frequency.

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i3z___
Senior Member
559
03-27-2016, 01:41 AM
#6
This configuration offers 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz frequencies.
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i3z___
03-27-2016, 01:41 AM #6

This configuration offers 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz frequencies.

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DantehIsGay
Posting Freak
902
03-27-2016, 08:29 AM
#7
The reason for the second modem is due to bulk purchasing by the complex, which uses a distributed network in each partment. This limits speeds despite advertised up to 300 mbps, as congestion and heavy usage reduce bandwidth. The 2.4 GHz channel is being used instead of 5 GHz, which explains the discrepancy with the WiFi Analyzer showing 2.4 GHz. Your Windows network connections appear correctly in the 5 GHz band, but the analyzer might be misinterpreting the settings.
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DantehIsGay
03-27-2016, 08:29 AM #7

The reason for the second modem is due to bulk purchasing by the complex, which uses a distributed network in each partment. This limits speeds despite advertised up to 300 mbps, as congestion and heavy usage reduce bandwidth. The 2.4 GHz channel is being used instead of 5 GHz, which explains the discrepancy with the WiFi Analyzer showing 2.4 GHz. Your Windows network connections appear correctly in the 5 GHz band, but the analyzer might be misinterpreting the settings.

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Cecelmat
Member
161
04-03-2016, 09:35 PM
#8
Other networks are present on channel 157.
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Cecelmat
04-03-2016, 09:35 PM #8

Other networks are present on channel 157.

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AnnDeeDee
Junior Member
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04-04-2016, 03:38 AM
#9
It doesn't seem clear at first. The app seems to detect both 5GHz and not recognize it, but if we consider possible mislabeling, testing on 2.4GHz appears to be the only option on that channel. There might be some overlap in frequency, which could explain the confusion.
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AnnDeeDee
04-04-2016, 03:38 AM #9

It doesn't seem clear at first. The app seems to detect both 5GHz and not recognize it, but if we consider possible mislabeling, testing on 2.4GHz appears to be the only option on that channel. There might be some overlap in frequency, which could explain the confusion.

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Rockjman123
Junior Member
7
04-04-2016, 05:37 AM
#10
I noticed the 5GHz display on the bottom right, so I checked the charts for that frequency. I had to make a change. Here are the 5GHz graphs... there are also some on channel 157, okay? Sorry about that. I've been working on network stuff recently.
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Rockjman123
04-04-2016, 05:37 AM #10

I noticed the 5GHz display on the bottom right, so I checked the charts for that frequency. I had to make a change. Here are the 5GHz graphs... there are also some on channel 157, okay? Sorry about that. I've been working on network stuff recently.

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