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lost silicon lottery?

lost silicon lottery?

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Iz_Bella
Member
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06-21-2016, 07:56 AM
#1
this means your i5 4690k isn't performing well as an overclocker, right? you might want to check if adjusting the cache ratio could help. your current cache ratio is 3.9.
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Iz_Bella
06-21-2016, 07:56 AM #1

this means your i5 4690k isn't performing well as an overclocker, right? you might want to check if adjusting the cache ratio could help. your current cache ratio is 3.9.

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TheMaZteR_652
Junior Member
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06-21-2016, 11:05 PM
#2
If stability can't be maintained at less than 1.3v vcore to hit 4.4ghz, it suggests the silicon challenge is significant. When more vcore is needed for each successive multiplier and performance declines further, it indicates a potential ceiling—likely reaching a limit soon. The cache ratio doesn't greatly impact speed, but adjusting it to match your CPU's ratio can sometimes add stress. If your cache ratio matched 44x, reducing it back might help, though it's already set at the default 39x. Most agree you can reach around 1.35v with Haswell/Devil's Canyon, and for daily use I tend to keep at 1.3v or lower if feasible. My experience was...
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TheMaZteR_652
06-21-2016, 11:05 PM #2

If stability can't be maintained at less than 1.3v vcore to hit 4.4ghz, it suggests the silicon challenge is significant. When more vcore is needed for each successive multiplier and performance declines further, it indicates a potential ceiling—likely reaching a limit soon. The cache ratio doesn't greatly impact speed, but adjusting it to match your CPU's ratio can sometimes add stress. If your cache ratio matched 44x, reducing it back might help, though it's already set at the default 39x. Most agree you can reach around 1.35v with Haswell/Devil's Canyon, and for daily use I tend to keep at 1.3v or lower if feasible. My experience was...

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Clausito
Junior Member
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06-22-2016, 12:48 AM
#3
Perhaps it's worth checking what a 1.35v setup can achieve. What power supply and motherboard are you using? Do you have the most recent BIOS?
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Clausito
06-22-2016, 12:48 AM #3

Perhaps it's worth checking what a 1.35v setup can achieve. What power supply and motherboard are you using? Do you have the most recent BIOS?

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GaymerTommy21
Member
152
06-23-2016, 05:08 AM
#4
power supply matches the Corsair Ax 760, the motherboard pairs with the ASUS Maximus 7 Hero, and the BIOS is version 3101 (current release).
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GaymerTommy21
06-23-2016, 05:08 AM #4

power supply matches the Corsair Ax 760, the motherboard pairs with the ASUS Maximus 7 Hero, and the BIOS is version 3101 (current release).

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Leo_Tavares
Member
102
06-23-2016, 07:20 AM
#5
i'm also uneasy about exceeding 1.35v, i'm running in air, not water cooled.
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Leo_Tavares
06-23-2016, 07:20 AM #5

i'm also uneasy about exceeding 1.35v, i'm running in air, not water cooled.

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Ballin_
Junior Member
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06-27-2016, 11:16 AM
#6
That's excellent feedback. 4.4 remains a solid choice given the performance with all four cores available. I'm open to considering a 1.37 if it meets my expectations. I wouldn't want to exceed that price point for good reasons.
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Ballin_
06-27-2016, 11:16 AM #6

That's excellent feedback. 4.4 remains a solid choice given the performance with all four cores available. I'm open to considering a 1.37 if it meets my expectations. I wouldn't want to exceed that price point for good reasons.

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06-30-2016, 05:57 AM
#7
Voltage and cooler have no significance when it comes to maintaining temperatures.
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jamesmader1993
06-30-2016, 05:57 AM #7

Voltage and cooler have no significance when it comes to maintaining temperatures.

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Luctony74
Member
107
06-30-2016, 07:06 AM
#8
i've noticed some folks hitting 4.4 with 1.2v, which really frustrates me since i didn't manage to get that high. but could it be because i didn't overclock my cpu cache at all?
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Luctony74
06-30-2016, 07:06 AM #8

i've noticed some folks hitting 4.4 with 1.2v, which really frustrates me since i didn't manage to get that high. but could it be because i didn't overclock my cpu cache at all?

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Peedy
Senior Member
641
06-30-2016, 03:41 PM
#9
I haven't noticed any improvement in my builds.
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Peedy
06-30-2016, 03:41 PM #9

I haven't noticed any improvement in my builds.

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DevilDoggy657
Senior Member
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07-21-2016, 07:54 AM
#10
If stability can't be maintained at less than 1.3v vcore to hit 4.4ghz, it suggests the silicon performance is limited. When more vcore is needed for each successive multiplier and becomes increasingly difficult, it indicates a potential ceiling—likely reaching a point where progress stalls. The cache ratio doesn't significantly impact performance, though aligning it with your CPU's ratio can sometimes add stress. If your cache ratio matched 44x, reducing it might help, but it's already set at the default 39x. Most agree you can reach around 1.35v with Haswell/Devil's Canyon, and for daily use I tend to keep at 1.3v or lower. My experience allowed me to hit 4.7ghz at about 1.36v, but it wasn't ideal, so I chose to cap it. It might seem modest, but at 44x (4.4ghz) you're just a few hundred megahertz above many others. At full load with all four cores, it won't surpass 3.9ghz—it'll settle around 3.7ghz. If you consistently reach 4.4ghz across all cores, you're 700mhz above the standard. It's still a solid performance, even if not the highest.
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DevilDoggy657
07-21-2016, 07:54 AM #10

If stability can't be maintained at less than 1.3v vcore to hit 4.4ghz, it suggests the silicon performance is limited. When more vcore is needed for each successive multiplier and becomes increasingly difficult, it indicates a potential ceiling—likely reaching a point where progress stalls. The cache ratio doesn't significantly impact performance, though aligning it with your CPU's ratio can sometimes add stress. If your cache ratio matched 44x, reducing it might help, but it's already set at the default 39x. Most agree you can reach around 1.35v with Haswell/Devil's Canyon, and for daily use I tend to keep at 1.3v or lower. My experience allowed me to hit 4.7ghz at about 1.36v, but it wasn't ideal, so I chose to cap it. It might seem modest, but at 44x (4.4ghz) you're just a few hundred megahertz above many others. At full load with all four cores, it won't surpass 3.9ghz—it'll settle around 3.7ghz. If you consistently reach 4.4ghz across all cores, you're 700mhz above the standard. It's still a solid performance, even if not the highest.

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