F5F Stay Refreshed Hardware Desktop Looking to bring back an old setup - tm-486sps mobo.

Looking to bring back an old setup - tm-486sps mobo.

Looking to bring back an old setup - tm-486sps mobo.

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zMadeus
Posting Freak
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02-10-2022, 01:56 PM
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Here is an odd one! I have a very old pc TM-486SPS mo bo based pc that I would like to revive. I've connected it and it seems to work. the problem is that I don't have a keyboard - it has to be with a 5 pin din plug, which as you well know, no longer exists. the mouse should connect by a 9 pin d type connector to the com port. so, here comes the odd question - is there a way to connect usb type keyboard and mouse to it? are there any ready adaptors or is there a way to make some sort of modification in order to connect them?
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zMadeus
02-10-2022, 01:56 PM #1

Here is an odd one! I have a very old pc TM-486SPS mo bo based pc that I would like to revive. I've connected it and it seems to work. the problem is that I don't have a keyboard - it has to be with a 5 pin din plug, which as you well know, no longer exists. the mouse should connect by a 9 pin d type connector to the com port. so, here comes the odd question - is there a way to connect usb type keyboard and mouse to it? are there any ready adaptors or is there a way to make some sort of modification in order to connect them?

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bobbuilder2222
Junior Member
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02-12-2022, 12:57 PM
#2
there is a method to link a USB type keyboard and mouse, but you’ll need to create a custom solution for your needs. No universal adaptors currently exist that match this situation. For example, the CME U2MIDI Pro offers a USB to MIDI cable with routing and filtering features, along with free software tools. You can search for USB to MIDI adapters online, but you’ll likely need a female USB port for the keyboard and male MIDI ports for the motherboard. This approach could be useful: https://retrocomputing.stackexchange.com...ard-to-usb. Additional guidance is available at https://reddit.com/r/modular/comments/r3...midi_only/.
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bobbuilder2222
02-12-2022, 12:57 PM #2

there is a method to link a USB type keyboard and mouse, but you’ll need to create a custom solution for your needs. No universal adaptors currently exist that match this situation. For example, the CME U2MIDI Pro offers a USB to MIDI cable with routing and filtering features, along with free software tools. You can search for USB to MIDI adapters online, but you’ll likely need a female USB port for the keyboard and male MIDI ports for the motherboard. This approach could be useful: https://retrocomputing.stackexchange.com...ard-to-usb. Additional guidance is available at https://reddit.com/r/modular/comments/r3...midi_only/.

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KizuPvP
Member
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02-13-2022, 11:10 PM
#3
MIDI is simply an audio standard.
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AT Keyboard
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Floppy interface
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IDE interface
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Parallel
2x
Serial
You’ll likely discover used AT and PS/2 keyboards. Serial mice are less common, but USB adapters should be easy to use. Still, it remains mostly serial.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/185830749264
Once you’ve invested in building adapters or buying them, you can easily get a keyboard at your doorstep.
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KizuPvP
02-13-2022, 11:10 PM #3

MIDI is simply an audio standard.
1x
AT Keyboard
1x
Floppy interface
2x
IDE interface
1x
Parallel
2x
Serial
You’ll likely discover used AT and PS/2 keyboards. Serial mice are less common, but USB adapters should be easy to use. Still, it remains mostly serial.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/185830749264
Once you’ve invested in building adapters or buying them, you can easily get a keyboard at your doorstep.

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piggywanttodie
Junior Member
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02-15-2022, 11:46 PM
#4
There are such things available, though they aren't always inexpensive.
I enjoy retro gaming and own multiple older computers that I've restored or rebuilt. This purchase was intended to simplify the process greatly.
https://github.com/dekuNukem/USB4VC
It enables compatibility with any USB keyboard, mouse, or gamepad on devices supporting PS2, AT, XT, DB9 serial (also yours), and DB15 ports.
The setup isn't cheap—you'll need a Pi plus a power bar—and assembling it yourself—but it has worked exceptionally well for me.
I've converted my USB keyboard, mouse, and gamepad to PS/2 and DB15 ports.
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piggywanttodie
02-15-2022, 11:46 PM #4

There are such things available, though they aren't always inexpensive.
I enjoy retro gaming and own multiple older computers that I've restored or rebuilt. This purchase was intended to simplify the process greatly.
https://github.com/dekuNukem/USB4VC
It enables compatibility with any USB keyboard, mouse, or gamepad on devices supporting PS2, AT, XT, DB9 serial (also yours), and DB15 ports.
The setup isn't cheap—you'll need a Pi plus a power bar—and assembling it yourself—but it has worked exceptionally well for me.
I've converted my USB keyboard, mouse, and gamepad to PS/2 and DB15 ports.

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mellon890
Junior Member
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02-21-2022, 06:05 PM
#5
Alternatively, you might link a 'AT to ps/2' connector to an 'usb to ps/2' connector. (ebay, amazon, anywhere) Verify the correct orientation—male or female—as needed when ordering.
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mellon890
02-21-2022, 06:05 PM #5

Alternatively, you might link a 'AT to ps/2' connector to an 'usb to ps/2' connector. (ebay, amazon, anywhere) Verify the correct orientation—male or female—as needed when ordering.

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omniclean
Member
192
02-21-2022, 09:35 PM
#6
This setup allows connecting an AT to either PS/2 or PS/2 to USB, but not the reverse. He aims to use contemporary devices with an older system. Switching direction is more complicated, though options exist.
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/204036492056
Price isn't very reasonable (not a strong recommendation).
I personally prefer originals; I still own some serial mice and several AT keyboards.
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omniclean
02-21-2022, 09:35 PM #6

This setup allows connecting an AT to either PS/2 or PS/2 to USB, but not the reverse. He aims to use contemporary devices with an older system. Switching direction is more complicated, though options exist.
Link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/204036492056
Price isn't very reasonable (not a strong recommendation).
I personally prefer originals; I still own some serial mice and several AT keyboards.

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_KotoVasa_
Member
197
02-23-2022, 06:56 PM
#7
The keyboard wiring problem is fairly straightforward. Regardless of the connector system used, the setup remains consistent. Using two adapters can work if the cable provides a USB2 male end connected to a 6-pin PS/2 male, then to a 5-pin DIN male that fits into your motherboard's 5-pin DIN female port.
https://www.amazon.ca/uxcell-Mouse-Adapt...,78&sr=8-9
https://www.amazon.ca/Kentek-Female-Keyb...pin+Serial
I wasn’t able to locate a suitable adapter for linking a male USB2 mouse cable connector to a male (with recessed pins) 9-pin D-Serial port. The key point is that the adapter often requires an internal chip to translate between USB2 and the 9-pin Serial signal. I found several options marketed for 9-pin serial devices connecting to a modern USB2 port on the motherboard, but it’s uncertain if they can reverse the process. Additionally, these adapters must be paired with a female USB2 port for the mouse input, which adds another layer of complexity.
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_KotoVasa_
02-23-2022, 06:56 PM #7

The keyboard wiring problem is fairly straightforward. Regardless of the connector system used, the setup remains consistent. Using two adapters can work if the cable provides a USB2 male end connected to a 6-pin PS/2 male, then to a 5-pin DIN male that fits into your motherboard's 5-pin DIN female port.
https://www.amazon.ca/uxcell-Mouse-Adapt...,78&sr=8-9
https://www.amazon.ca/Kentek-Female-Keyb...pin+Serial
I wasn’t able to locate a suitable adapter for linking a male USB2 mouse cable connector to a male (with recessed pins) 9-pin D-Serial port. The key point is that the adapter often requires an internal chip to translate between USB2 and the 9-pin Serial signal. I found several options marketed for 9-pin serial devices connecting to a modern USB2 port on the motherboard, but it’s uncertain if they can reverse the process. Additionally, these adapters must be paired with a female USB2 port for the mouse input, which adds another layer of complexity.

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blue_fanta
Member
143
02-24-2022, 03:13 AM
#8
Why not employ a PCI-based USB expansion card in one of the PCI slots?
For instance: https://www.newegg.com/p/2S7-09HH-00WR5
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blue_fanta
02-24-2022, 03:13 AM #8

Why not employ a PCI-based USB expansion card in one of the PCI slots?
For instance: https://www.newegg.com/p/2S7-09HH-00WR5

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Agrius545
Member
67
02-24-2022, 04:54 PM
#9
Since there are no PCIe ports available on this machine.
Only VESA LB and PCI options remain.
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Agrius545
02-24-2022, 04:54 PM #9

Since there are no PCIe ports available on this machine.
Only VESA LB and PCI options remain.

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HotQ_Q
Junior Member
36
02-26-2022, 01:45 AM
#10
OOPS!
I did find a pcie to pci adapter card that would allow a conventional pcie adapter card:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1971313380...pG...R-i6kP3rZQ
A bit of a kluge though.
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HotQ_Q
02-26-2022, 01:45 AM #10

OOPS!
I did find a pcie to pci adapter card that would allow a conventional pcie adapter card:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1971313380...pG...R-i6kP3rZQ
A bit of a kluge though.

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