F5F Stay Refreshed Hardware Desktop Looking for advice on build, but so much conflicting info!

Looking for advice on build, but so much conflicting info!

Looking for advice on build, but so much conflicting info!

S
SpinnSky
Member
73
10-19-2023, 06:36 AM
#1
Initially, I just want to mention that I'm not making any judgments. I understand why there are differing views. This subject is personal, and opinions vary widely. I recognize that, so I truly value anyone who contributes their insights. You seem to have a better grasp than me, which is why I'm here seeking your assistance.
S
SpinnSky
10-19-2023, 06:36 AM #1

Initially, I just want to mention that I'm not making any judgments. I understand why there are differing views. This subject is personal, and opinions vary widely. I recognize that, so I truly value anyone who contributes their insights. You seem to have a better grasp than me, which is why I'm here seeking your assistance.

B
Breadstonee
Member
220
10-19-2023, 12:20 PM
#2
It's challenging to distinguish exaggeration from factual accuracy. There won't be any shift in expectations. What you can focus on is sharpening your ability to spot hyperbole.

In Olympic diving events, they record both the highest and lowest scores for each jump. Perhaps this insight could be useful.

You'll likely face scrutiny over minor details and need to gauge how strongly you feel about certain opinions. Initial assumptions tend to persist. Expect further discussion about AMD and Intel.

I would aim to avoid getting lost in trivialities or chasing the "best" option. The sheer volume of information is overwhelming. If you push too hard, it could lead to frustration.

Can you accept that you don't always have the "best" choice, or are you more pragmatic? Would you be willing to spend an additional $300 to $500 to avoid regret after purchasing? "Ugh, I wish I had bought XYZ! What was I thinking? I'm missing out!"

The link between spending more and perceived quality is questionable and probably weaker than you think. Yet another assumption about getting value for money remains strong.

You're likely on the steep end of diminishing returns, which seems acceptable given your investment.

Predictions about future purchases are uncertain—whether it's $4,000 or $8,000, it's hard to say what will matter.

Whether the final $400 out of $4,000 actually improves your experience is unclear. More likely, it will influence style, appearance, and a sense of ownership.

64 GB RAM appears sufficient for your needs. Keep an eye on what you spend in 2030 or sooner if necessary... but only if your budget allows.

G Skill Ripjaws (Intel) or Flare (AMD) along with Corsair Vengeance are generally reliable choices. The benefits beyond $6,000 and 30 CL are limited. I didn't verify your motherboard's memory options, but Corsair should work.

The Noctua cooler is a reasonable pick for Intel, while Flare is solid for AMD. It's unlikely to notice significant differences beyond those speeds and heatsinks.

A 64 GB case seems adequate for your requirements. Stay informed about future upgrades—perhaps around 2030—or whenever it becomes clear. But if you can afford $128 now, that's a possibility... but only if it matters.

64 GB RAM is a solid choice. Watch out for the trend toward diminishing returns, which seems reasonable given your spending habits.
B
Breadstonee
10-19-2023, 12:20 PM #2

It's challenging to distinguish exaggeration from factual accuracy. There won't be any shift in expectations. What you can focus on is sharpening your ability to spot hyperbole.

In Olympic diving events, they record both the highest and lowest scores for each jump. Perhaps this insight could be useful.

You'll likely face scrutiny over minor details and need to gauge how strongly you feel about certain opinions. Initial assumptions tend to persist. Expect further discussion about AMD and Intel.

I would aim to avoid getting lost in trivialities or chasing the "best" option. The sheer volume of information is overwhelming. If you push too hard, it could lead to frustration.

Can you accept that you don't always have the "best" choice, or are you more pragmatic? Would you be willing to spend an additional $300 to $500 to avoid regret after purchasing? "Ugh, I wish I had bought XYZ! What was I thinking? I'm missing out!"

The link between spending more and perceived quality is questionable and probably weaker than you think. Yet another assumption about getting value for money remains strong.

You're likely on the steep end of diminishing returns, which seems acceptable given your investment.

Predictions about future purchases are uncertain—whether it's $4,000 or $8,000, it's hard to say what will matter.

Whether the final $400 out of $4,000 actually improves your experience is unclear. More likely, it will influence style, appearance, and a sense of ownership.

64 GB RAM appears sufficient for your needs. Keep an eye on what you spend in 2030 or sooner if necessary... but only if your budget allows.

G Skill Ripjaws (Intel) or Flare (AMD) along with Corsair Vengeance are generally reliable choices. The benefits beyond $6,000 and 30 CL are limited. I didn't verify your motherboard's memory options, but Corsair should work.

The Noctua cooler is a reasonable pick for Intel, while Flare is solid for AMD. It's unlikely to notice significant differences beyond those speeds and heatsinks.

A 64 GB case seems adequate for your requirements. Stay informed about future upgrades—perhaps around 2030—or whenever it becomes clear. But if you can afford $128 now, that's a possibility... but only if it matters.

64 GB RAM is a solid choice. Watch out for the trend toward diminishing returns, which seems reasonable given your spending habits.

M
mr_talkative
Junior Member
8
10-19-2023, 03:18 PM
#3
If it's primarily for games, nothing, but nothing can now or in near future can touch AMD Ryzen 9800x3D and whole platform will be "alive" next few years being able to receive at least 2 new Ryzen generations. Also using much less power and easier to cool than 14900 Intel
Newest x870 chipset MBs bring all and some future technology, have PCIe v5.0 throughout the system, USB 4.0 etc. RAM up to 7000-800MHz.
GPU, that's up to your penchant for high resolutions and detail but both Nvidia and AMD are soon coming with 5000 and 8000 series respectively promising much higher performances at lower prices.
As for drives. Only ones with high speeds (PCIe v4.0 amd v5.0) are needed for Windows and programs/games and those with RAM cache for transfer speeds. For now, until PCIe v5.0 become more common, kingston KC3000 offers best speed/price deal.
Personally, I wouldn't pay too much for case and channel money to other parts and accessories.
Windows, no reason not to use Pro version, Home would bring you nothing but some less adaptability and control, with 2TB SSD eventual save of couple of Gb means nothing. "Bloatware" is exactly same inboth versions and with system like that also means squat.
As for storage drives, unless you need some with more than 4TB its better to go for M.2 NVMe dries but no need for very fast ones,better to go for capacity.
For backups. large (8TB or more )internal HDD would be just fine but in some way separated/isolated from OS and possible malware by encription and or restricted access. Backup programs like Macrium Reflect offer such protecion.
"Real backup" also meneans at least anothe backup which should be detachable or in a secured NAS. It just depends on hoe important data is for you.
M
mr_talkative
10-19-2023, 03:18 PM #3

If it's primarily for games, nothing, but nothing can now or in near future can touch AMD Ryzen 9800x3D and whole platform will be "alive" next few years being able to receive at least 2 new Ryzen generations. Also using much less power and easier to cool than 14900 Intel
Newest x870 chipset MBs bring all and some future technology, have PCIe v5.0 throughout the system, USB 4.0 etc. RAM up to 7000-800MHz.
GPU, that's up to your penchant for high resolutions and detail but both Nvidia and AMD are soon coming with 5000 and 8000 series respectively promising much higher performances at lower prices.
As for drives. Only ones with high speeds (PCIe v4.0 amd v5.0) are needed for Windows and programs/games and those with RAM cache for transfer speeds. For now, until PCIe v5.0 become more common, kingston KC3000 offers best speed/price deal.
Personally, I wouldn't pay too much for case and channel money to other parts and accessories.
Windows, no reason not to use Pro version, Home would bring you nothing but some less adaptability and control, with 2TB SSD eventual save of couple of Gb means nothing. "Bloatware" is exactly same inboth versions and with system like that also means squat.
As for storage drives, unless you need some with more than 4TB its better to go for M.2 NVMe dries but no need for very fast ones,better to go for capacity.
For backups. large (8TB or more )internal HDD would be just fine but in some way separated/isolated from OS and possible malware by encription and or restricted access. Backup programs like Macrium Reflect offer such protecion.
"Real backup" also meneans at least anothe backup which should be detachable or in a secured NAS. It just depends on hoe important data is for you.

T
147
10-19-2023, 04:57 PM
#4
Thank you to CountMike and Lafong for sharing all the details. The quote above was exactly what sparked my consideration.
T
TannerBannaner
10-19-2023, 04:57 PM #4

Thank you to CountMike and Lafong for sharing all the details. The quote above was exactly what sparked my consideration.

S
Sham55
Junior Member
15
10-25-2023, 07:42 AM
#5
It’s not being absurd. Probably just overanalyzing. You tend to be detail-oriented, which can make it hard to decide.
"Much less than what wouldn’t be upsetting after a few years?"
You’re likely thinking about something very specific and personal—something only you would know would bother you. I don’t really have a clue what would disappoint you... or even what counts as a big deal for you. You could obsess over a 3 percent difference, but maybe not so much after a week of reading online.
That’s just buyer’s remorse talking. I’m curious how much you care about price changes.
I don’t know your sensitivity to price.
Alright; let’s say you invested 3000 in a monitor.
If you put 2500 into machine A and the other 500 into new tires, or 3000 into machine B with no tires, it’s possible you’d miss the difference between the two.
But if you only spent 2500, you might still wonder if it was worth it in 2028—maybe you should have chosen more.
Would you still feel reassured by those tires?
The components in A or B could fail and cause real disappointment. The extra 500 might add some nice features, but reliability is still uncertain.
Keep going, just try to stay focused on the present. Don’t dwell too much on what might happen later. Hope it doesn’t become a problem soon.
S
Sham55
10-25-2023, 07:42 AM #5

It’s not being absurd. Probably just overanalyzing. You tend to be detail-oriented, which can make it hard to decide.
"Much less than what wouldn’t be upsetting after a few years?"
You’re likely thinking about something very specific and personal—something only you would know would bother you. I don’t really have a clue what would disappoint you... or even what counts as a big deal for you. You could obsess over a 3 percent difference, but maybe not so much after a week of reading online.
That’s just buyer’s remorse talking. I’m curious how much you care about price changes.
I don’t know your sensitivity to price.
Alright; let’s say you invested 3000 in a monitor.
If you put 2500 into machine A and the other 500 into new tires, or 3000 into machine B with no tires, it’s possible you’d miss the difference between the two.
But if you only spent 2500, you might still wonder if it was worth it in 2028—maybe you should have chosen more.
Would you still feel reassured by those tires?
The components in A or B could fail and cause real disappointment. The extra 500 might add some nice features, but reliability is still uncertain.
Keep going, just try to stay focused on the present. Don’t dwell too much on what might happen later. Hope it doesn’t become a problem soon.

G
Giorgosmy157
Member
73
10-25-2023, 02:06 PM
#6
I've never had the chance to invest heavily in a PC build, so mine has always lagged behind the latest models by two to five years. This delay means I can afford to buy top-of-the-line parts when others start upgrading. Not lacking in quality, my builds aren't perfect, but they still perform well for years.

If you have the funds and wish to spend them, it's your choice—your money is yours. There are certainly more affordable alternatives, and you don’t necessarily have to spend a fortune on a monitor. The real question remains: what are you aiming for?
G
Giorgosmy157
10-25-2023, 02:06 PM #6

I've never had the chance to invest heavily in a PC build, so mine has always lagged behind the latest models by two to five years. This delay means I can afford to buy top-of-the-line parts when others start upgrading. Not lacking in quality, my builds aren't perfect, but they still perform well for years.

If you have the funds and wish to spend them, it's your choice—your money is yours. There are certainly more affordable alternatives, and you don’t necessarily have to spend a fortune on a monitor. The real question remains: what are you aiming for?