Looking for a fresh platform and unsure about AM5
Looking for a fresh platform and unsure about AM5
So my son's mobo has stopped working and I have a couple of choices. One is to give him my 8700k CPU/mobo and buy a 78003dx for myself. But after some research on the x670e, I'm not sure if that's the best path. It seems like the chipset isn't fully prepared yet. I can't find many mobo reviews and they don't look very promising—like issues with bios or slow startup times.
Do anyone have real-world experience with AM5? The mobos are so expensive that I'm worried I might buy into AM5 too early and face some problems. Plus, the new mobos aren't cheap either. I don’t want to spend $500 on a mobo only to need a replacement when the next chipset arrives.
The other choice is to keep my 8700k (still a great chip) and switch my son's rig to a 5800x. I can get a decent x570 mobo and CPU cooler for the price of a mid-range x670e board. I already have the DDR4 RAM, so I won’t need any new RAM.
Is it a mistake to buy into AM4 now that it’s no longer available? Or should I wait and see if AM5 develops further before making a decision?
You don't need X670E since it includes two X670 chipsets for extra I/O. Stick with the usual GPU and storage—no requirement for such a board. B650, B650E, and X670 are all viable choices. Long boot times on AM5 occur because of high-speed memory and validation needs before starting. You might also consider a 13th-gen Intel DDR4 or a DDR5 build. The 5800X3D remains strong, though a cost-conscious setup would likely favor the 5700X. I’m not confident in recommending an 8700K as it’s more suited to entry-level i5 models today.
I chose the x670e due to the I/O requirements. I aim for 5.0 performance on both the GPU and SSD. I’m aware it might not matter now, but there are only a few decent 5.0 drives available, and 4.0 is sufficient for a GPU. Still, after six years with my current setup, I want it to remain reliable. I anticipate needing these features when they become important. But perhaps it’s too far away.
I also play 3440x1440p on a 4k monitor, and the 8700k handles that resolution well. At 1080p it will still make a difference.
Remains constrained by the connections between the chipsets, yet I understand your perspective.
Intel's PCIe 5.0 compatibility with SSDs is limited; using a single PCIe 5.0 M.2 reduces GPU bandwidth significantly on many systems.
You'll likely be restricted to PCIe 4.0 with an AM4 platform, while a budget Z790 board can support PCIe 5.0 GPUs along with B660 and Z690 options.
I purchased an Asus Prime X670P WiFi mobo in December 2022, and even then it was significantly under the $500 price mentioned earlier. Both the mobo and 7950X have decreased in value since the end of last year, although that reflects the early purchase price. The AM5 architecture comes with a higher cost per GB for DDR5 RAM.
The 7950X outperforms my previous 3800X at video rendering, even when using standard 4800MHz RAM speeds. According to Puget Systems benchmarks, there’s minimal benefit from using 6000MHz RAM in Adobe Premiere Pro, so I opted for a more affordable setup with 2x32GB at 4800MHz. I’m considering adding another 2x32GB if I need up to 128GB total.
An i9-13900K would have offered about 10% better performance for my applications using the same GPU, based on Puget benchmarks, but it would have increased power usage significantly. My 7950X consumes around 180W in Handbrake with PBO off across all cores. An i9-13900K would draw over 200W.
I’m unlikely to upgrade my Gen4 NVMe boot drive to a faster Gen5 version, as the performance gains wouldn’t justify the higher power draw. The two NVMe slots on the Asus board are still valuable for cache drives that boost video processing speed. A PCIe 5.0 GPU would be nice, but only if it fits within an affordable budget.
For an AMD gaming setup, I’d probably stick with AM4 and a 5800X3D, though AM5 would provide better long-term compatibility. Since I have both Intel and AMD systems, it’s wise to review the specific apps or games you plan to run and select hardware that matches your needs.
Yeah, I understand. What are your questions?
I’ve already gone through those early struggles, so you’re in good hands. My system crashed three days after I installed it… the CPU and board failed because of voltage problems with the 7000 series back in mid-April. After updates to the BIOS and AGESA, everything is working fine now, and I haven’t had any more issues in over 40 days. Yes… I still suggest this platform.
I didn’t spend $500 on my board—it was only $300, and it’s quite solid.
https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/ms...iew,1.html
https://me.pcmag.com/en/motherboards/171...e-tomahawk
I believe sticking with AM4 is a mistake, just like thinking LGA1700 is a bad choice. I’ve been using Intel for more than 20 years. This is my first AMD build since 2001. My instinct told me it was time to switch to AMD now, and I’m happy there’s no regret.
I used the 7950x3D for gaming and productivity. I do a lot of video work and wanted extra cores with the x3D chips for performance plus lower power consumption.
One suggestion i have is to buy them all from the same place and if you have a problem, just take them all back for a refund and don't bother trying to solve it or say that you had a problem. Get your money back and buy new ones from another store. Had i done it myself, it would have spared me SO MUCH stress and anger.