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Linux isn't ready for casual users yet.

Linux isn't ready for casual users yet.

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G00GLEITBRAH
Junior Member
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02-11-2023, 02:44 PM
#1
Linux, uh, I see. My take comes from personal experience over the last few months. A few factors relate to the kernel or how the regular user area is set up, while others stem from the overall distribution. GNU/Linux wasn’t designed to rival Microsoft Windows. It started as a small personal project by a Finnish developer, growing through open-source contributions. It wasn’t built with end-user comfort in mind—it was more aimed at technical and advanced users. Still, we’re working to make it more accessible. Many distros and programs try to mask the underlying tech with a polished look, but sometimes they do things incorrectly or just fail. Take Ubuntu as an example. When you power it on, you see the basic GRUB menu. That’s enough for someone new to feel confused. They might try using the mouse, but it won’t respond. Once past GRUB, the system boots, but the boot visuals are unsatisfying. The graphics don’t behave as expected. In Windows, a smooth animation appears throughout the boot process. Ubuntu, however, sometimes skips the splash screen entirely, then lags before launching GDM. It also has issues with shutdown animations—sometimes it doesn’t show the screen at all. These small details affect everyday use. I also dislike how simple escape keys can cause panic for users who think their PC is being compromised, when in reality it’s just boot messages. I appreciate the power, but the key shortcuts should be more customizable. There are also differences in desktop environments and display managers. Pressing unusual keys can lock you into a different terminal mode with no clear exit. Some bugs slip through, like broken GDM3 or issues with GNOME setup after installing Ubuntu. I once had to manually remove GRUB from Linux Mint because it broke everything, making it impossible to boot into Ubuntu. Windows keeps you locked in, even when you try to use sudo. Power users can delete the OS, but that’s not ideal. Other distros like Manjaro offer a GRUB theme, but I wouldn’t recommend it for commercial use. Pop OS uses a bootloader and avoids GRUB, which some prefer, though it feels heavier and has poor Gnome support. Plasma isn’t great either—it runs poorly on Xorg, has bugs, and its default theme is unappealing. Arch Linux under the hood is powerful but hard to work with, while other DEs like GNOME are decent but not perfect. For everyday tasks—word processing, video calls, browsing—GNU/Linux can handle it well. It still needs to hide its complexity. Is there a distro that covers all these points? I’ve only looked at the most popular ones. This isn’t just a personal note; I need real feedback from others.
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G00GLEITBRAH
02-11-2023, 02:44 PM #1

Linux, uh, I see. My take comes from personal experience over the last few months. A few factors relate to the kernel or how the regular user area is set up, while others stem from the overall distribution. GNU/Linux wasn’t designed to rival Microsoft Windows. It started as a small personal project by a Finnish developer, growing through open-source contributions. It wasn’t built with end-user comfort in mind—it was more aimed at technical and advanced users. Still, we’re working to make it more accessible. Many distros and programs try to mask the underlying tech with a polished look, but sometimes they do things incorrectly or just fail. Take Ubuntu as an example. When you power it on, you see the basic GRUB menu. That’s enough for someone new to feel confused. They might try using the mouse, but it won’t respond. Once past GRUB, the system boots, but the boot visuals are unsatisfying. The graphics don’t behave as expected. In Windows, a smooth animation appears throughout the boot process. Ubuntu, however, sometimes skips the splash screen entirely, then lags before launching GDM. It also has issues with shutdown animations—sometimes it doesn’t show the screen at all. These small details affect everyday use. I also dislike how simple escape keys can cause panic for users who think their PC is being compromised, when in reality it’s just boot messages. I appreciate the power, but the key shortcuts should be more customizable. There are also differences in desktop environments and display managers. Pressing unusual keys can lock you into a different terminal mode with no clear exit. Some bugs slip through, like broken GDM3 or issues with GNOME setup after installing Ubuntu. I once had to manually remove GRUB from Linux Mint because it broke everything, making it impossible to boot into Ubuntu. Windows keeps you locked in, even when you try to use sudo. Power users can delete the OS, but that’s not ideal. Other distros like Manjaro offer a GRUB theme, but I wouldn’t recommend it for commercial use. Pop OS uses a bootloader and avoids GRUB, which some prefer, though it feels heavier and has poor Gnome support. Plasma isn’t great either—it runs poorly on Xorg, has bugs, and its default theme is unappealing. Arch Linux under the hood is powerful but hard to work with, while other DEs like GNOME are decent but not perfect. For everyday tasks—word processing, video calls, browsing—GNU/Linux can handle it well. It still needs to hide its complexity. Is there a distro that covers all these points? I’ve only looked at the most popular ones. This isn’t just a personal note; I need real feedback from others.

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MisterN3A3TKG
Member
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02-11-2023, 02:44 PM
#2
The moment when Linux reaches its peak for desktop users will mark the typical year of the Linux desktop.
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MisterN3A3TKG
02-11-2023, 02:44 PM #2

The moment when Linux reaches its peak for desktop users will mark the typical year of the Linux desktop.

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THEBLUEBOLT
Member
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02-11-2023, 02:44 PM
#3
Ubuntu seems really annoying to me. I definitely dislike it. While most Linux distributions aren't designed for everyday users, options like the UBlue line, Nobara, or TuxedoOS (which is based on Ubuntu) are quite approachable. You just set it up and start using it.
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THEBLUEBOLT
02-11-2023, 02:44 PM #3

Ubuntu seems really annoying to me. I definitely dislike it. While most Linux distributions aren't designed for everyday users, options like the UBlue line, Nobara, or TuxedoOS (which is based on Ubuntu) are quite approachable. You just set it up and start using it.

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GETSOU
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02-11-2023, 02:44 PM
#4
These specific aspects are what make it difficult to get a server or even a working desktop up and running. Don't try to make it look polished for users who just need it to work. That's not the spirit of Linux—freedom to choose, mainly. Avoid forcing a Windows-like setup on Linux. They're fundamentally different. This is why many Linux users stick with it; it's not Windows OS. It's already the dominant system outside the gaming community, powering most smartphones, holding a significant share on servers, and running on nearly all supercomputers and major internet root servers.
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GETSOU
02-11-2023, 02:44 PM #4

These specific aspects are what make it difficult to get a server or even a working desktop up and running. Don't try to make it look polished for users who just need it to work. That's not the spirit of Linux—freedom to choose, mainly. Avoid forcing a Windows-like setup on Linux. They're fundamentally different. This is why many Linux users stick with it; it's not Windows OS. It's already the dominant system outside the gaming community, powering most smartphones, holding a significant share on servers, and running on nearly all supercomputers and major internet root servers.

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ketman34
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02-11-2023, 02:44 PM
#5
Linux has traditionally been aimed at tech-savvy individuals, and unless it becomes more accessible, it may remain niche. As long as people rely on quick fixes from the internet rather than learning commands, adoption will stay low. The desktop environment is fragmented, with inconsistent standards and shifting interfaces like KDE or older options such as twm. Many tools use different widget sets, leading to a confusing experience where users juggle multiple apps with distinct appearances. While this flexibility appeals to experimenters, it discourages regular users. For everyday users, the closest alternatives are ChromeOS, Ubuntu, and its derivatives like Mint. If we broaden the definition of "distro" to exclude Windows, then yes—there are options. (Note: Mac OS did evolve from BSD through NEXTSTEP, but that's a simplified take.)
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ketman34
02-11-2023, 02:44 PM #5

Linux has traditionally been aimed at tech-savvy individuals, and unless it becomes more accessible, it may remain niche. As long as people rely on quick fixes from the internet rather than learning commands, adoption will stay low. The desktop environment is fragmented, with inconsistent standards and shifting interfaces like KDE or older options such as twm. Many tools use different widget sets, leading to a confusing experience where users juggle multiple apps with distinct appearances. While this flexibility appeals to experimenters, it discourages regular users. For everyday users, the closest alternatives are ChromeOS, Ubuntu, and its derivatives like Mint. If we broaden the definition of "distro" to exclude Windows, then yes—there are options. (Note: Mac OS did evolve from BSD through NEXTSTEP, but that's a simplified take.)

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jpenney7
Member
168
02-11-2023, 02:44 PM
#6
Companies such as HP, Epson, Logitech, etc., should begin developing drivers for at least one Linux distribution. With Windows 10 expected to be influenced by Microsoft next year, many users may face limited choices—either shifting to one of the two less popular options or adopting Linux. This could present an opportunity for Linux to capture more market share, though it seems unlikely they’ll act. Printers might continue producing useless output due to driver shortages in Linux, just like in the past.
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jpenney7
02-11-2023, 02:44 PM #6

Companies such as HP, Epson, Logitech, etc., should begin developing drivers for at least one Linux distribution. With Windows 10 expected to be influenced by Microsoft next year, many users may face limited choices—either shifting to one of the two less popular options or adopting Linux. This could present an opportunity for Linux to capture more market share, though it seems unlikely they’ll act. Printers might continue producing useless output due to driver shortages in Linux, just like in the past.

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babamanga04
Member
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02-11-2023, 02:44 PM
#7
Yes, but let's pause and think: how many individuals currently own a home computer today? A real one—like a desktop with a screen and extra gear. The truth is, it’s quite low, and you’ll be surprised. We’re not talking about everyone; the numbers are minimal. Listen closely, and I’ll explain why.

Most of us rely on smartphones for nearly everything now. Even if we do have a computer, it’s usually a MacBook or a slim Windows laptop. Gamers aren’t part of this mainstream picture, so we won’t be counting them here—sorry, gamers. Maybe console players are more typical, but they still stick to consoles rather than computers.

Work environments still lean heavily on Windows, especially in offices. People use Excel, and that’s why companies keep running it. While alternatives like LibreOffice exist, convincing managers or bosses to switch isn’t easy. Why? Because it disrupts the familiar workflow.

Even everyday tasks—like managing lights or updating devices—require specific setups that are hard to change. It’s not just about preference; it’s about habit and infrastructure.

Things like this show how deeply ingrained certain technologies become, and how difficult it is to shift them.
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babamanga04
02-11-2023, 02:44 PM #7

Yes, but let's pause and think: how many individuals currently own a home computer today? A real one—like a desktop with a screen and extra gear. The truth is, it’s quite low, and you’ll be surprised. We’re not talking about everyone; the numbers are minimal. Listen closely, and I’ll explain why.

Most of us rely on smartphones for nearly everything now. Even if we do have a computer, it’s usually a MacBook or a slim Windows laptop. Gamers aren’t part of this mainstream picture, so we won’t be counting them here—sorry, gamers. Maybe console players are more typical, but they still stick to consoles rather than computers.

Work environments still lean heavily on Windows, especially in offices. People use Excel, and that’s why companies keep running it. While alternatives like LibreOffice exist, convincing managers or bosses to switch isn’t easy. Why? Because it disrupts the familiar workflow.

Even everyday tasks—like managing lights or updating devices—require specific setups that are hard to change. It’s not just about preference; it’s about habit and infrastructure.

Things like this show how deeply ingrained certain technologies become, and how difficult it is to shift them.

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Tautle
Member
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02-11-2023, 02:44 PM
#8
Ubuntu is quite solid. Linux Mint works well too. It’s worth noting that Linux wasn’t originally meant for everyday users. In fact, I’d say Linux often outperforms Windows in stability—how many blue screens or frustrating updates do you encounter? If you’re not comfortable with Linux, sticking to Windows or macOS might be better. For those using Linux, having basic command-line skills is essential.

About desktop environments, GNOME feels a bit heavy for most people. Xfce, KDE, and Cinnamon are solid choices, though GNOME isn’t terrible. Regarding boot logs, most distros hide them with their icons unless you press "Esc" to see the details.

As for Snap packages and Snapstore, they can be misleading—those tools often don’t deliver what they promise. If you’re seeking a more stable experience, consider ZorinOS, Mint, Elementary OS, Fedora, or even NobaraOS/GardudaOS/EOS if you’re into gaming.
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Tautle
02-11-2023, 02:44 PM #8

Ubuntu is quite solid. Linux Mint works well too. It’s worth noting that Linux wasn’t originally meant for everyday users. In fact, I’d say Linux often outperforms Windows in stability—how many blue screens or frustrating updates do you encounter? If you’re not comfortable with Linux, sticking to Windows or macOS might be better. For those using Linux, having basic command-line skills is essential.

About desktop environments, GNOME feels a bit heavy for most people. Xfce, KDE, and Cinnamon are solid choices, though GNOME isn’t terrible. Regarding boot logs, most distros hide them with their icons unless you press "Esc" to see the details.

As for Snap packages and Snapstore, they can be misleading—those tools often don’t deliver what they promise. If you’re seeking a more stable experience, consider ZorinOS, Mint, Elementary OS, Fedora, or even NobaraOS/GardudaOS/EOS if you’re into gaming.

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Ebaar
Junior Member
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02-11-2023, 02:44 PM
#9
Linux Mint is based on Ubuntu but includes additional software by default.
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Ebaar
02-11-2023, 02:44 PM #9

Linux Mint is based on Ubuntu but includes additional software by default.

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GioRollins
Member
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02-11-2023, 02:44 PM
#10
My initial response to that comment is "Rubbish." It's surprising how many non-technical laptop users I've helped find it useful. The rest of the more than 100 installations I've made seem to work well too. I live with someone who switches between Windows and Linux, and they've managed to keep things running smoothly. There are definitely users who encounter issues with Windows after trying Linux, but overall it seems to function reasonably.
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GioRollins
02-11-2023, 02:44 PM #10

My initial response to that comment is "Rubbish." It's surprising how many non-technical laptop users I've helped find it useful. The rest of the more than 100 installations I've made seem to work well too. I live with someone who switches between Windows and Linux, and they've managed to keep things running smoothly. There are definitely users who encounter issues with Windows after trying Linux, but overall it seems to function reasonably.

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