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_DaniWolf_
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09-04-2016, 04:52 AM
#11
If you own a solid PC, you can set up a VM to try various distros before moving to your main system. Adjust it according to their requirements and observe how smooth or difficult the process is. At first, I felt swamped by the sheer number of options (analysis paralysis), which likely contributed to me giving up on Linux. However, I’ve successfully run a stripped-down W11 on machines from 6000-series Intel processors to current models and found it quite efficient. I recommend having at least 16GB of RAM. I also experiment with Linux occasionally, though it tends to be a bit slow—especially noticeable when clicking or navigating. I usually run Linux on a separate machine to avoid frustration, since installing software outside the package manager often requires extensive research and many frustrating steps. Many developers provide outdated or poor documentation for their Linux versions, and some features are just unusual quirks. For instance, copying text requires CTRL-shift-C instead of CTRL-C, and the terminal doesn’t support mouse movement inside text fields. If your parent insists on sticking to what comes with Linux or can be installed via the package manager, that shouldn’t be a problem. But if they expect cars with left brake and right accelerator, Linux will interpret it differently—potentially excluding them from the experience. It’s as if Linux has reached just 5% market share, and the community tries to keep it exclusive to a niche group to maintain its uniqueness. They rarely acknowledge that Windows has valuable features and borrows them. If your parent is completely unfamiliar with computers, Linux might be a good fit. But for someone already comfortable with Windows and using it professionally or at home, switching daily can be tough. Edit: I haven’t tried Zorin yet, but it’s supposed to feel more Windows-like (though I suspect it shares similar quirks). https://zorin.com/os/ If you’re unsure, consider Mint, Ubuntu, or Zorin for a Windows user. Once you decide, install the long-term support version for stability. Those releases rarely get updated beyond security patches. I don’t know why, but many distros also offer a regular version that needs frequent updates, which could introduce changes your parent might dislike. Edit 2: This discussion prompted me to install Zorin and Ubuntu alongside Mint in a VM. You’ll need to test it yourself—Ubuntu might pose challenges for Windows users. For specific software, ensure it’s available through the package manager; otherwise, manual installation is necessary (and Free File Sync isn’t included for Mint). For updates, be aware that some distros release support for years before security patches. Edit 3: You should also check if the distro supports fractional scaling, though this feature isn’t universally available.
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_DaniWolf_
09-04-2016, 04:52 AM #11

If you own a solid PC, you can set up a VM to try various distros before moving to your main system. Adjust it according to their requirements and observe how smooth or difficult the process is. At first, I felt swamped by the sheer number of options (analysis paralysis), which likely contributed to me giving up on Linux. However, I’ve successfully run a stripped-down W11 on machines from 6000-series Intel processors to current models and found it quite efficient. I recommend having at least 16GB of RAM. I also experiment with Linux occasionally, though it tends to be a bit slow—especially noticeable when clicking or navigating. I usually run Linux on a separate machine to avoid frustration, since installing software outside the package manager often requires extensive research and many frustrating steps. Many developers provide outdated or poor documentation for their Linux versions, and some features are just unusual quirks. For instance, copying text requires CTRL-shift-C instead of CTRL-C, and the terminal doesn’t support mouse movement inside text fields. If your parent insists on sticking to what comes with Linux or can be installed via the package manager, that shouldn’t be a problem. But if they expect cars with left brake and right accelerator, Linux will interpret it differently—potentially excluding them from the experience. It’s as if Linux has reached just 5% market share, and the community tries to keep it exclusive to a niche group to maintain its uniqueness. They rarely acknowledge that Windows has valuable features and borrows them. If your parent is completely unfamiliar with computers, Linux might be a good fit. But for someone already comfortable with Windows and using it professionally or at home, switching daily can be tough. Edit: I haven’t tried Zorin yet, but it’s supposed to feel more Windows-like (though I suspect it shares similar quirks). https://zorin.com/os/ If you’re unsure, consider Mint, Ubuntu, or Zorin for a Windows user. Once you decide, install the long-term support version for stability. Those releases rarely get updated beyond security patches. I don’t know why, but many distros also offer a regular version that needs frequent updates, which could introduce changes your parent might dislike. Edit 2: This discussion prompted me to install Zorin and Ubuntu alongside Mint in a VM. You’ll need to test it yourself—Ubuntu might pose challenges for Windows users. For specific software, ensure it’s available through the package manager; otherwise, manual installation is necessary (and Free File Sync isn’t included for Mint). For updates, be aware that some distros release support for years before security patches. Edit 3: You should also check if the distro supports fractional scaling, though this feature isn’t universally available.

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Froyo_
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09-04-2016, 06:48 AM
#12
Such as? I always use Ctrl-C. How? Terminal > Edit > Preferences > Shortcuts Click on Copy a couple of times and then write Ctrl c and the same for Paste write Ctrl v Easy to change. Err? What is your parent doing in Terminal anyway? I can't think of any of the 60+ users I know who will ever have opened the Terminal. October 2018, my partner Windows 10 one day, Linux Mint the next because MS had wiped her Win10 totally. The backup disk with everything on it and Linux Mint saved the day and she has used it ever since. No problems. For doing things, yes different apps. Fiddling with pictures i.e. simple editing. Windows - IrfanView, Linux - gThumb Maybe use Audacious for sound and VLC for video rather than the default Celluloid. You might want an extra web browser so add Chromium. You can install "ublock origin" on Firefox to get rid of advertising.
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Froyo_
09-04-2016, 06:48 AM #12

Such as? I always use Ctrl-C. How? Terminal > Edit > Preferences > Shortcuts Click on Copy a couple of times and then write Ctrl c and the same for Paste write Ctrl v Easy to change. Err? What is your parent doing in Terminal anyway? I can't think of any of the 60+ users I know who will ever have opened the Terminal. October 2018, my partner Windows 10 one day, Linux Mint the next because MS had wiped her Win10 totally. The backup disk with everything on it and Linux Mint saved the day and she has used it ever since. No problems. For doing things, yes different apps. Fiddling with pictures i.e. simple editing. Windows - IrfanView, Linux - gThumb Maybe use Audacious for sound and VLC for video rather than the default Celluloid. You might want an extra web browser so add Chromium. You can install "ublock origin" on Firefox to get rid of advertising.

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09-19-2016, 01:55 PM
#13
I also enjoy Linux Mint, though I recognize @Lurking's concerns. On Windows, installing software is straightforward—just download the .exe and run it. For certain programs, you might need a launcher like Steam, but for most, an .exe should work seamlessly on modern Windows. Linux behaves differently. If the program isn’t in the main repositories, finding installation steps can be tricky. You might encounter various methods—such as downloading a .deb, using pip, or other sources—that may not suit your system. Additionally, installation instructions tailored to one Linux version can fail on another (e.g., Debian vs. Fedora).

An older user unfamiliar with tech won’t grasp the differences between distros, but I’m aware there are seasoned users who’ve mastered computers since the 70s. In short, Windows offers a consistent path with .exe installations, while Linux presents a complex landscape of installation challenges.

Setting up Linux properly involves ensuring all necessary software is available and guiding users to the standard GUI center. This approach works well for many, but it doesn’t fully address Lurking’s frustration. I’ve seen others get discouraged when they needed to install something outside the main repository, leading them to abandon their efforts.
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Alice_two_Berg
09-19-2016, 01:55 PM #13

I also enjoy Linux Mint, though I recognize @Lurking's concerns. On Windows, installing software is straightforward—just download the .exe and run it. For certain programs, you might need a launcher like Steam, but for most, an .exe should work seamlessly on modern Windows. Linux behaves differently. If the program isn’t in the main repositories, finding installation steps can be tricky. You might encounter various methods—such as downloading a .deb, using pip, or other sources—that may not suit your system. Additionally, installation instructions tailored to one Linux version can fail on another (e.g., Debian vs. Fedora).

An older user unfamiliar with tech won’t grasp the differences between distros, but I’m aware there are seasoned users who’ve mastered computers since the 70s. In short, Windows offers a consistent path with .exe installations, while Linux presents a complex landscape of installation challenges.

Setting up Linux properly involves ensuring all necessary software is available and guiding users to the standard GUI center. This approach works well for many, but it doesn’t fully address Lurking’s frustration. I’ve seen others get discouraged when they needed to install something outside the main repository, leading them to abandon their efforts.

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Black_Vortex
Junior Member
35
09-21-2016, 06:16 PM
#14
I had to set up the remote software my company provides for remote access. They only offer the Windows edition, and it was up to me to switch to alternatives. It took some time to learn how to do that because the program isn’t included in any of the distribution manager lists. ... Appreciate the quick setup tips. In Mint it wasn’t configured for CTrl-V, but in Fedora it was. Finding the option felt a bit tricky. A forum member mentioned it works across Linux, but I wasn’t sure. Terminal might help with navigation more easily. This is something I really need, and there’s no reason to complicate it further.
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Black_Vortex
09-21-2016, 06:16 PM #14

I had to set up the remote software my company provides for remote access. They only offer the Windows edition, and it was up to me to switch to alternatives. It took some time to learn how to do that because the program isn’t included in any of the distribution manager lists. ... Appreciate the quick setup tips. In Mint it wasn’t configured for CTrl-V, but in Fedora it was. Finding the option felt a bit tricky. A forum member mentioned it works across Linux, but I wasn’t sure. Terminal might help with navigation more easily. This is something I really need, and there’s no reason to complicate it further.

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JustJericio
Junior Member
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09-21-2016, 07:54 PM
#15
These applications mimic old computer terminals (giving them their name) that lacked a mouse. You might discover a different tool with mouse functionality, though I haven’t tried one before. The experience is identical across Windows and MacOS.
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JustJericio
09-21-2016, 07:54 PM #15

These applications mimic old computer terminals (giving them their name) that lacked a mouse. You might discover a different tool with mouse functionality, though I haven’t tried one before. The experience is identical across Windows and MacOS.

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NALLE_PUH
Member
170
09-22-2016, 10:09 AM
#16
I don't have enough expertise to challenge that. Our IT team has set up the client on their servers with two-factor authentication, and the Oomnissa Horizon Client logs in via the website before startup. This setup seems secure and unlikely to be bypassed by generic software. I'm not keen on testing it further, as any failure could risk losing remote access privileges or worse. There have been instances where remoting didn't function properly, so I'm hesitant to try again. If it doesn't work, IT should guide me to use the official tools rather than unsupported alternatives. I installed the Linux version of the Omnissa Horizon Client on at least two distributions in my VM and successfully connected to my work machine. That worked out fine, but if it hadn't, it would be a major issue for my employment.
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NALLE_PUH
09-22-2016, 10:09 AM #16

I don't have enough expertise to challenge that. Our IT team has set up the client on their servers with two-factor authentication, and the Oomnissa Horizon Client logs in via the website before startup. This setup seems secure and unlikely to be bypassed by generic software. I'm not keen on testing it further, as any failure could risk losing remote access privileges or worse. There have been instances where remoting didn't function properly, so I'm hesitant to try again. If it doesn't work, IT should guide me to use the official tools rather than unsupported alternatives. I installed the Linux version of the Omnissa Horizon Client on at least two distributions in my VM and successfully connected to my work machine. That worked out fine, but if it hadn't, it would be a major issue for my employment.

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AeroxF
Junior Member
18
09-23-2016, 02:13 PM
#17
I recommend Manjaro for a simple Linux experience tailored to seniors. Using Cinnamon as the desktop environment makes it lightweight and easy to navigate, featuring a Start Menu style button and toolbar that looks similar to Windows. This helps users feel more comfortable. Manjaro updates are released only after they have been tested and proven reliable, unlike other Arch-based distros.
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AeroxF
09-23-2016, 02:13 PM #17

I recommend Manjaro for a simple Linux experience tailored to seniors. Using Cinnamon as the desktop environment makes it lightweight and easy to navigate, featuring a Start Menu style button and toolbar that looks similar to Windows. This helps users feel more comfortable. Manjaro updates are released only after they have been tested and proven reliable, unlike other Arch-based distros.

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Heftiq_
Junior Member
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09-30-2016, 09:03 PM
#18
I have no prior knowledge of Manjaro. However, based on numerous reviews, people generally wait a few days for updates compared to Arch, though they often don<|pad|>'side not all improvements are thoroughly evaluated. In Arch, updates tend to arrive more quickly. A rolling release model doesn’t seem ideal for parents or beginners. (Note: Manjaro also offers a stable variant, but I’d need to investigate its reliability and testing frequency.) If you’re seeking a user-friendly experience resembling Windows, Debian 13 with KDE might be a solid choice. Just remember to configure it carefully, as the partitioning setup can be complex and isn’t beginner-friendly. Once installed, it remains straightforward for regular use. It’s more approachable than Windows. As an LTS release, it should remain stable over time. Among the options I’ve tested recently, Debian was the most lightweight and dependable. I didn’t try any Arch-based distros since they seemed geared toward those seeking frequent updates and willing to experiment. The outcome may vary depending on your location relative to your parents. If you see them regularly, maintenance becomes simpler. For those living far away, it’s less practical. My device is on a different continent and still uses Windows 10; I likely installed it with Windows 11 because someone nearby might assist with Windows. If you install Linux, chances are slim someone knows that specific distro. Ensure your parents’ systems support it, or consider alternatives they’re comfortable with. For proprietary or unusual software, a Debian version that supports it is usually the best bet.
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Heftiq_
09-30-2016, 09:03 PM #18

I have no prior knowledge of Manjaro. However, based on numerous reviews, people generally wait a few days for updates compared to Arch, though they often don<|pad|>'side not all improvements are thoroughly evaluated. In Arch, updates tend to arrive more quickly. A rolling release model doesn’t seem ideal for parents or beginners. (Note: Manjaro also offers a stable variant, but I’d need to investigate its reliability and testing frequency.) If you’re seeking a user-friendly experience resembling Windows, Debian 13 with KDE might be a solid choice. Just remember to configure it carefully, as the partitioning setup can be complex and isn’t beginner-friendly. Once installed, it remains straightforward for regular use. It’s more approachable than Windows. As an LTS release, it should remain stable over time. Among the options I’ve tested recently, Debian was the most lightweight and dependable. I didn’t try any Arch-based distros since they seemed geared toward those seeking frequent updates and willing to experiment. The outcome may vary depending on your location relative to your parents. If you see them regularly, maintenance becomes simpler. For those living far away, it’s less practical. My device is on a different continent and still uses Windows 10; I likely installed it with Windows 11 because someone nearby might assist with Windows. If you install Linux, chances are slim someone knows that specific distro. Ensure your parents’ systems support it, or consider alternatives they’re comfortable with. For proprietary or unusual software, a Debian version that supports it is usually the best bet.

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ItzMisteryHD
Junior Member
18
09-30-2016, 09:32 PM
#19
when your father’s activities stay simple like basic web use, Chrome OS Flex might work well—it’s a smooth shift but still straightforward. for a more traditional setup, switching to distributions like KDE or Cinnamon is likely the fastest path. both feel similar to Windows 10 with a standard start menu and system tray at the bottom left. if you’re concerned about accidental changes, an immutable distro such as Steamo could be a good option. it’s unclear what’s available, but these systems protect core files and usually install apps in isolated containers like flatpaks, preventing disruptions.
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ItzMisteryHD
09-30-2016, 09:32 PM #19

when your father’s activities stay simple like basic web use, Chrome OS Flex might work well—it’s a smooth shift but still straightforward. for a more traditional setup, switching to distributions like KDE or Cinnamon is likely the fastest path. both feel similar to Windows 10 with a standard start menu and system tray at the bottom left. if you’re concerned about accidental changes, an immutable distro such as Steamo could be a good option. it’s unclear what’s available, but these systems protect core files and usually install apps in isolated containers like flatpaks, preventing disruptions.

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WaterLily2003
Senior Member
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10-18-2016, 01:57 AM
#20
Abilities depend on experience, not age. Someone who contributed to building the space station—like engineers or programmers—would be more capable than a grandma who enjoys baking.
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WaterLily2003
10-18-2016, 01:57 AM #20

Abilities depend on experience, not age. Someone who contributed to building the space station—like engineers or programmers—would be more capable than a grandma who enjoys baking.

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